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    Chosen on purpose because the idea of Russia/Trump collusion was already out there. Thank you.

    Nope. The idea that Russians were bad actors and Trump wasn’t sufficiently “mean” to them was out there.


    Keep Googling. I tried.

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    Nope. The idea that Russians were bad actors and Trump wasn’t sufficiently “mean” to them was out there.


    Keep Googling. I tried.
    Well, the adption meeting took place on June 9. It's entirely possible one or more of the many Russians involved were already under surveillance by some party, somewhere, no?

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    Well, the adption meeting took place on June 9. It's entirely possible one or more of the many Russians involved were already under surveillance by some party, somewhere, no?
    Probably. Is that the same Russian lawyer who met with Fusion GPS founder both before and after her meeting with Jr..

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    Turns out this is a nothingburger

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    Probably. Is that the same Russian lawyer who met with Fusion GPS founder both before and after her meeting with Jr..
    Yeah. What is your theory there, Darrin?

    No need for TSA's questions three game.

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    That loudmouth with no impulse control has amazing discipline when it comes to Russia tho. Maybe they have a hi res pic of his micropenis?

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    That loudmouth with no impulse control has amazing discipline when it comes to Russia tho. Maybe they have a hi res pic of his micropenis?
    He has showed amazing discipline in dragging his feet with the new sanctions, I'll give him that.

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    Yeah. What is your theory there, Darrin?

    No need for TSA's questions three game.
    Meeting wreaks of set up.

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    Meeting wreaks of set up.
    Walk me through the set up, Darrin. All the players and motives and methods.

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    Walk me through the set up, Darrin. All the players and motives and methods.
    Fusion GPS is just a ubiquitous swamp creature, I suppose.

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    Fusion GPS is just a ubiquitous swamp creature, I suppose.
    No need to be passive aggressive about it. Just say you won't make the effort.

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    Nope. The idea that Russians were bad actors and Trump wasn’t sufficiently “mean” to them was out there.
    "wasn't sufficiently mean"

    You're playing semantics because your point of view is impervious to reason. Trump was known to be cozy with Putin, and his Page/Manafort appointments along with his positions on Ukraine and the like were seen as oddly bold pro-Russia moves. Putin and his propaganda arms were openly pro-Trump, so the idea of collusion is a natural extension from all of those factors.

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    Nope. Chosen on purpose. Still oppo research financed by Hillary and DNC and likely used for FISA warrant to spy on Trump campaign.

    Its amazing that someone like Trump, who can’t keep his mouth shut, has been so disciplined on his collusion activities.
    Disciplined? There are reports that Trump was instructing the room to make up that about adoptions with the ambassador meeting they changed stories on 4 times. He has at least two people already flipping on him.

    We don't have access so we cannot see what he actually did but Mueller is in position to get the skinny on that . You are just wishcasting.

    You have no idea what the basis for the FISA warrant was.

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    Doubting the intelligence, Trump pursues Putin and leaves a Russian threat unchecked

    In the final days before Donald Trump was sworn in as president, members of his inner circle pleaded with him to acknowledge publicly what U.S. intelligence agencies had already concluded — that Russia's interference in the 2016 election was real.

    Holding impromptu interventions in Trump's 26th-floor corner office at Trump Tower, advisers — including Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and designated chief of staff, Reince Priebus — prodded the president-elect to accept the findings that the nation's spy chiefs had personally presented to him on Jan. 6.

    They sought to convince Trump that he could affirm the validity of the intelligence without diminishing his electoral win, according to three officials involved in the sessions. More important, they said that doing so was the only way to put the matter behind him politically and free him to pursue his goal of closer ties with Russian President Vladi*mir Putin.

    "This was part of the normalization process," one participant said. "There was a big effort to get him to be a standard president."

    But as aides persisted, Trump became agitated. He railed that the intelligence couldn't be trusted and scoffed at the suggestion that his candidacy had been propelled by forces other than his own strategy, message and charisma.

    Told that members of his incoming Cabinet had already publicly backed the intelligence report on Russia, Trump shot back, "So what?"

    "As far as hacking, I think it was Russia," he said, adding that "we also get hacked by other countries and other people."

    As hedged as those words were, Trump regretted them almost immediately. "It's not me," he said to aides afterward. "It wasn't right."

    the personal insecurities of the president — and his refusal to accept what even many in his administration regard as objective reality — have impaired the government's response to a national security threat. The repercussions radiate across the government.

    Trump has waged his own campaign to discredit the case that Russia poses any threat and he has resisted or attempted to roll back efforts to hold Moscow to account.

    when Congress moved to impose additional penalties on Moscow, Trump opposed the measures fiercely.

    "What the president has to say is, 'We know the Russians did it, they know they did it, I know they did it, and we will not rest until we learn everything there is to know about how and do everything possible to prevent it from happening again,' " Hayden said in an interview.

    Trump "has never said anything close to that and will never say anything close to that."

    'More than worth the effort'

    The feeble American response has registered with the Kremlin.


    U.S. officials said that a stream of intelligence from sources inside the Russian government indicates that Putin and his lieutenants regard the 2016 "active measures" campaign — as the Russians describe such covert propaganda operations — as a resounding, if incomplete, success.

    But overall, U.S. officials said, the Kremlin believes it got a staggering return on an operation that by some estimates cost less than $500,000 to execute and was organized around two main objectives — destabilizing U.S. democracy and preventing Hillary Clinton, who is despised by Putin, from reaching the White House.

    The bottom line for Putin, said one U.S. official briefed on the stream of post-election intelligence, is that the operation was "more than worth the effort."


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ked/ar-BBGJ75h

    Daughter er-in-chief is totally compromised by Pootin, will probably fire Mueller and be impeached/convicted for the firing, rather than let Mueller make his case and be impeached/convicted on that case.




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    Disciplined? There are reports that Trump was instructing the room to make up that about adoptions with the ambassador meeting they changed stories on 4 times. He has at least two people already flipping on him.

    We don't have access so we cannot see what he actually did but Mueller is in position to get the skinny on that . You are just wishcasting.

    You have no idea what the basis for the FISA warrant was.

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    "We Have Proof DOJ Worked Against Republican Party During Election"

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    second special counsel.

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    "We Have Proof DOJ Worked Against Republican Party During Election"
    link to the "proof"?

    Dobbs is nuttier with every year. Frontal lobes shrinking

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    ‘Show your text messages during Benghazi’: Morning Joe rips GOP ‘jackasses’ undermining Mueller

    MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough hammered House Republicans who “snarled” at deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein as part of the broader effort to undermine — and then fire — special counsel Robert Mueller.

    The “Morning Joe” host said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) and other GOP members of the House Judiciary Committee had embarrassed themselves during Wednesday’s hearing by obsessing over anti-Trump texts sent by an FBI agent fired by Mueller last summer.

    “By the way, I’d love to see these guys’ text messages during their hearings,” Scarborough said.

    “You guys want to play that game?

    Show your text messages during Benghazi, show your texts.

    Why don’t you reveal your tech messages and what you were texting each other while you were conducting an impartial investigation of Benghazi for, like, eight years?”

    “If you’re trying to disrupt Bob Mueller’s investigation that has already brought down three or four people extraordinarily close to the president of the United States,

    you’re making a fool of yourself,” Scarborough said.

    “You’re trying to undermine the rule of law.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/show-your-text-messages-during-benghazi-morning-joe-rips-gop-jackasses-undermining-mueller/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

    For Repugs, oligarchy-fellating politics overrides any and all laws, regs, conventions.

    All Oligarchy Politic$, All The Time.

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    Read the Letter That mings Sent on Flynn Whistle-Blower
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...nn-Letter.html

    Congressional Street Thug Elijah mings Gets Snagged Fabricating Trump Hoax
    http://truepundit.com/busted-congres...mp-hoax-video/

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    lol "Street Thug" code words

    Subtle, TSA.

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    Judiciary Dem Issues Dire Warning: GOP Is Plotting To Let Trump Fire Mueller

    An increasing number of Republicans are making it plain that any attempt by Trump to fire Mueller would be fine with them.

    That was the
    undeniable take-away from the House Judiciary Committee’s Wednesday hearing. During his testimony, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was pressured relentlessly by Republicans who used to be pro-law and order but now

    use the FBI and the DOJ as a political punching bag.


    Why?

    Because they want the Mueller investigation shut down. Period.

    After listening to hours of the GOP’s bashing, Rep. Eric Swawell (D-CA) warned that

    Republicans were signaling to the White House that they would OK with Trump trying to obstruct justice

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/judiciary-dem-issues-dire-warning-gop-plotting-let-trump-fire-mueller/

    yep, Repugs would not impeach AND convict Trash for shutting down Mueller

    Would Repugs get then screwed in 2018, or any, elections? Probably not.

    Repugs can count on 40% - 45% of voters no matter WHAT THE the Repugs do.


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    Conservatives want the FBI demolished — to protect Donald Trump

    Another conservative speaks up, and echoes the refrain that the FBI is not pro-Trump enough for his taste

    Fox News is actively encouraging President Donald Trump to behave like a tyrant.

    On Wednesday, the network invited Tom Fitton, president of the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch — known for promoting endless scandals in the Obama administration (including Hillary Clinton's emails) — suggested that the FBI is tainted, and perhaps should be culled.

    "Forget about the FBI investigation into Clinton and Trump being compromised by these conflicts.

    I think the FBI has been compromised.

    Forget about shutting down Mr. Mueller.

    Do we need to shut down the FBI because

    it was turned into a KGB-type operation by the Obama administration?" Fitton said.

    Fitton is just the latest conservative to abandon the "law and order"

    priority, instead

    encouraging the president to thwart an investigation into his potentially illegal activities.

    Last week Fox News’ Judge Jeanine Pirro called for a "cleansing" of law enforcement officials who are investigating the president.


    "There is a cleansing needed in our FBI and Department of Justice — it needs to be cleansed of individuals who should not just be fired, but who need to be taken out in cuffs!" Pirro proclaimed.

    https://www.salon.com/2017/12/14/conservatives-want-the-fbi-demolished-to-protect-donald-trump/

    More rightwingnutjob hate media signalling to Trash that it's OK to shut Mueller down.,



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    lol "Street Thug" code words

    Subtle, TSA.
    I didn’t le the article. No comment on the actions of mings?

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