Lol Roy Moore's a pedo! And he'll still win (cuz Alabama)

[djohn2oo8]

Chris out there looking like a poor Joel Osteen

[djohn2oo8]

What charges?

[DMC]

Any real Christian knows the Old Law was fulfilled and laid to rest by Jesus Christ. You're a fraud. Sad!

Not true. Laws aren't fulfilled, that would be prophesy. Laws are obeyed. You're saying the 10 Commandments are no longer considered God's law, by Christians, because Jesus came along and repealed them? Jesus came to establish law, to live it. Not to abolish it.

What sunday school ed you up?

[Spurminator]

Not true. Laws aren't fulfilled, that would be prophesy. Laws are obeyed. You're saying the 10 Commandments are no longer considered God's law, by Christians, because Jesus came along and repealed them? Jesus came to establish law, to live it. Not to abolish it.

What sunday school ed you up?

Feisty this week aren't we?

In my church, as in most churches, we did not practice Old Testament Law because Jesus Christ's death and resurrection fulfilled the Old Law and redeemed humanity from its failure to uphold it.

Hebrews 8:
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.



Maybe your church still executed sexuals like in Leviticus? Sure would explain a lot.

[Pavlov]

Feisty this week aren't we?

In my church, as in most churches, we did not practice Old Testament Law because Jesus Christ's death and resurrection fulfilled the Old Law and redeemed humanity from its failure to uphold it.

Hebrews 8:
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.



Maybe your church still executed sexuals like in Leviticus? Sure would explain a lot.

For vengeful God's sake, don't make fun of a bald guy.

[Chris]

Feisty this week aren't we?

In my church, as in most churches, we did not practice Old Testament Law because Jesus Christ's death and resurrection fulfilled the Old Law and redeemed humanity from its failure to uphold it.

Hebrews 8:
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.



Maybe your church still executed sexuals like in Leviticus? Sure would explain a lot.

What Church did you go to?

[DMC]

Feisty this week aren't we?

In my church, as in most churches, we did not practice Old Testament Law because Jesus Christ's death and resurrection fulfilled the Old Law and redeemed humanity from its failure to uphold it.

Hebrews 8:
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.



Maybe your church still executed sexuals like in Leviticus? Sure would explain a lot.

(Matt. 5:17), "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill."

Every post you make when you're getting ethered is laced with silly ass comments like the "executed sexuals" comment above. You can be wrong without panicking over it.

[Reck]

Creepy how Chris has morphed into Cully.

[Spurminator]

What Church did you go to?

A very conservative one.

[Chucho]

Creepy how Chris has morphed into Cully.

He just posts memes. Cully ran through his same 5-6 sayings every 5-6 posts.

[Pavlov]

He just posts memes. Cully ran through his same 5-6 sayings every 5-6 posts.

Chris steals basically every shtick he can discern as well.

[Chucho]

Chris steals basically every shtick he can discern as well.

All he needs to do is post Kyle Griffin tweets and form his political opinions from them.

[Chris]

A very conservative one.

So you can't even remember what kind of Church it was? How long did you go there for? A week? 2 weeks? They specifically told you to ignore the Old Testament?

[Spurminator]

(Matt. 5:17), "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill."

I almost posted that verse but "abolish" is commonly misinterpreted in its context. The original Greek term for used "abolish" is more closely translated as "invalidated." Christ did not oppose or contradict the scripture of the Old Law, He fulfilled it. It is no longer necessary to follow the Old Testament to the letter, but it is necessary for Christians to understand it, which is why it's still in the Bible.

Every post you make when you're getting ethered is laced with silly ass comments like the "executed sexuals" comment above. You can be wrong without panicking over it.

The question was valid. If the Old Law is still in practice why don't Christians execute sexuals or follow 99% of Leviticus anymore? They don't even "keep the Sabbath holy."

I make a snarky side comment to an obvious troll and suddenly I'm being challenged on Bible theory. I love this website.

[Spurminator]

So you can't even remember what kind of Church it was?

I remember,

How long did you go there for? A week? 2 weeks?

30+ years.

They specifically told you to ignore the Old Testament?

Nope.

[DMC]

Yep.

Two hideous spurs. What a sexual.

I almost posted that verse but "abolish" is commonly misinterpreted in its context. The original Greek term for used "abolish" is more closely translated as "invalidated." Christ did not oppose or contradict the scripture of the Old Law, He fulfilled it. It is no longer necessary to follow the Old Testament to the letter, but it is necessary for Christians to understand it, which is why it's still in the Bible.



The question was valid. If the Old Law is still in practice why don't Christians execute sexuals or follow 99% of Leviticus anymore? They don't even "keep the Sabbath holy."

I make a snarky side comment to an obvious troll and suddenly I'm being challenged on Bible theory. I love this website.

It's not like Jesus came along in 1980. Christians were drowning witches not that long ago.

[Chris]

If the Old Law is still in practice why don't Christians execute sexuals

Muslims do such a good job of that for us.

They don't even "keep the Sabbath holy."

Some do. They are called 7th Day Adventists and Mormons.

I make a snarky side comment to an obvious troll and suddenly I'm being challenged on Bible theory. I love this website.

I don't do the troll thing.

[Spurminator]

It's not like Jesus came along in 1980. Christians were drowning witches not that long ago.

That's on them. I'm talking about the Bible. Christians have seldom been great at understanding or following it.

[DMC]

That's on them. I'm talking about the Bible. Christians have seldom been great at understanding or following it.

Paul to the Romans 1:32 Although they know God's just requirement—that those who practice such things deserve to die—they not only do these things but even applaud others who practice them.


This was about sexuals.

If Paul thought the law had been fulfilled, why would he say God's just requirement is that they deserve to die?

[Chris]

That's on them. I'm talking about the Bible. Christians have seldom been great at understanding or following it.

All you need to understand is that we are all Children of Adam and we are born into original sin. Jesus was not born from Adam but from God therefore he lived a life without sin and died for ours. Saavy?

[Spurminator]

Paul to the Romans 1:32 Although they know God's just requirement—that those who practice such things deserve to die—they not only do these things but even applaud others who practice them.

This was about sexuals.

If Paul thought the law had been fulfilled, why would he say God's just requirement is that they deserve to die?

"Deserve" is different from "compelled by law." Core Christian belief is we all deserve to die for our sins. It's the foundation of the Garden of Eden story.

And actually, if you read the full context, this passage is about idolatrous people being given over by God to sin, including sexual behavior (along with greed, depravity, deceit, arrogance, insolence and disobedience to their parents.)

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.


21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.


24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.


26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

[DMC]

So god thinks they deserve it, and Paul knows this, but yet Jesus fulfilled the law so God doesn't actually want them dead?

This makes no sense. Do you think sexuals deserve death? Does your church agree with their god that sexuals deserve death?

[Chris]

So god thinks they deserve it, and Paul knows this, but yet Jesus fulfilled the law so God doesn't actually want them dead?

This makes no sense. Do you think sexuals deserve death? Does your church agree with their god that sexuals deserve death?

Also he says the "core Christian belief is we all deserve to die for our sins." I've never heard that once

[DMC]

Also he says the "core Christian belief is we all deserve to die for our sins." I've never heard that once

the wages of sin is death but the gift of god is eternal life through Jesus Christ

However... saying God thinks they deserve to die isn't the same as saying this behavior will lead to death. It's saying "if god had his way... you'd be dead"


How does that work, exactly?

This is the problem with exegesis from different denoms and different levels of theological education of the followers. It's all dismissed by a simple interpretation of a single word, semantics if you will.

[Spurminator]

So god thinks they deserve it, and Paul knows this, but yet Jesus fulfilled the law so God doesn't actually want them dead?

This makes no sense. Do you think sexuals deserve death? Does your church agree with their god that sexuals deserve death?

You're mistaking my explanation of the Bible for advocacy of Christianity. I don't go to church anymore. I'm just explaining the context of what Christians believe.