Kiwi now has a "chilling" relationship with the Sp*rs FO?

[szkorhetz]

I think he may have been less than thrilled about signing LMA away from Portland. He is such a Sphinx it is hard to tell. But I don't ever notice them interacting like we once saw Tim, Manu and Tony interact. Forgetting (for the moment) how difficult it is to have a couple of iso-players in the same lineup, I have doubts that a team can thrive with two introverted stars like Kawhi and LMA. Seems to me you need to have more personal cohesion than I "feel" among the Spurs players, especially their stars.

It's not on LMA. You see him talk a lot even during games with Pau, Tony, Manu, Mills. Kawhi on the other hand...

[DPG21920]

What I got from reading the report was Kawhi is the one who is reluctant to play. The Spurs shut him down because he told them he was still uncomfortable. Maybe the issue is the Spurs think he's ready but he doesn't want to rush himself?

It could be. Usually it’s the opposite though. Players, especially injured ones, are always optimistic about their returns and timelines while doctors and teams use caution.

So it’s possible, but I think it’s more that everyone including SA and Kawhi knows he was not right and he’s just frustrated because basketball is his life.

[DPG21920]

All I'm saying is that Duncan also had a time where he wasn't completely on the same page with the front office. So much in fact, that he was a simple concession from Doc Rivers away of leaving the team.

That to me seems more tiring or nerve breaking for Pop than a simple rumour of Kawhi having a "chilling" relationship with the FO, tbh.

And it’s not just about Kawhi. LMA marching in and demanding a trade, etc..This is new ground for SA and Pop is what I’m saying. Tim, even with the free agency thing, was a very drama-free (comparatively) player who stabilized the culture/locker room.

I’m just guessing and asking; not stating any facts. I can see this wearing on Pop especially with his comments about how he’s calmed down and misses Tim and how basketball is not the most important thing to him anymore.

[r0drig0lac]

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Kawhi's camp has denied the rumors. RC has also. That's two named sources that have quickly spoken out. Are you going to believe RC and Kawhi's camp or the unnamed sources??

I hope they're telling the truth.

[SAGirl]

Stories like these don't come out unless one or the other side want it to come out, tbh...

Obviously, it takes somebody the size of Woj to shine a light on it. Meanwhile, Jeff McDonald is interviewing the Coyote in the Spurs' youth camp.

I think it's all tied to money...
remember those reports of degenerative, chronic, may affect him for the rest of his career? That would create a giant rift if indeed tissue is as diseased as those uncredited reports. He certainly is struggling to wipe his own ass after a few minutes of game.

[bklynspursfan]

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Kawhi's camp has denied the rumors. RC has also. That's two named sources that have quickly spoken out. Are you going to believe RC and Kawhi's camp or the unnamed sources??

Thanks for sharing. I'm sure there's frustration on both sides, but mainly because both sides want him out there healthy and playing ball.

[MoSpur02]

Whatever happens, Pop and R.C need to be held accountable for the moves made lately. The only ones they have to answer to is Miss Holt. Unfortunately she doesn’t really get into their business. Hopefully when ownership changes (supposedly soon) the new ownership group will start holding Pop and RC accountable.

[SAGirl]

All I'm saying is that Duncan also had a time where he wasn't completely on the same page with the front office. So much in fact, that he was a simple concession from Doc Rivers away of leaving the team.

That to me seems more tiring or nerve breaking for Pop than a simple rumour of Kawhi having a "chilling" relationship with the FO, tbh.

RC has admitted after Tim's retirement that he massively blundered the pitch to him too. They focused on ting on Orlando and what they offered and didn't focus enough on what would have been good about staying in SA... Timmy being so close to Pop and his personality (favoring family and all that, which Pop to his credit is all about, quality of life).. swung him to San Antonio... but had it been up to RC...


ppl acting like that didn't happen.

[Dex]

RC has admitted after Tim's retirement that he massively blundered the pitch to him too. They focused on ting on Orlando and what they offered and didn't focus enough on what would have been good about staying in SA... Timmy being so close to Pop and his personality (favoring family and all that, which Pop to his credit is all about, quality of life).. swung him to San Antonio... but had it been up to RC...


ppl acting like that didn't happen.

Well that, and Doc screwing the pooch by saying that Amy couldn't fly on the plane with the team.

If you have a chance to get Tim Duncan, you give him anything he wants tbh. You buy him his own damn plane for his wife if he asks for it.

[marinoman]

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Kawhi's camp has denied the rumors. RC has also. That's two named sources that have quickly spoken out. Are you going to believe RC and Kawhi's camp or the unnamed sources??

There prolly is a rift, woj is rarely wrong, but nothing beyond repair and something winning can’t fix. But they have to start winning, a trade would help

[SpurPadre]

It's not on LMA. You see him talk a lot even during games with Pau, Tony, Manu, Mills. Kawhi on the other hand...

Those talks consist of: Give me my touches, guys!

[bic50]

Man, things have changed without Tim. First you have LMA asking for a trade. Then you have this Kawhi news. I said a long time ago that SA fans would have to get used to “new superstars”.

Tim was so rare in that he was a great teammate and leader and allowed Pop/RC to do what they needed to do because he supported them.

It does not make these new stars bad people, but it sheds light on just how special Tim is/was. This is what every other franchise has to deal with (outside of maybe Dallas/Dirk). The stuff with LMA, Kawhi and all the drama. This is what happens in free agency with these “lead” guys. This is the new norm and it’s going to be a big time struggle for Pop/RC and the fans adjusting.

D-rob doesn't get near the credit he deserves. But it all started with him.

[SURGE]

Fake news

[Clipper Nation]

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Kawhi's camp has denied the rumors. RC has also. That's two named sources that have quickly spoken out. Are you going to believe RC and Kawhi's camp or the unnamed sources??

No , Sherlock. It's not like Kawhi is going to say "it's all true, I hate the Spurs" in the middle of the season regardless of how he feels about the organization.

[LkrFan]

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Kawhi's camp has denied the rumors. RC has also. That's two named sources that have quickly spoken out. Are you going to believe RC and Kawhi's camp or the unnamed sources??

Looks like some going on

[SpurPadre]

D-rob doesn't get near the credit he deserves. But it all started with him.

This. After finding out about how the plane thing was the only reason Timmy stayed, it's clear that Da Admiral was the most truly loyal and dedicated about being a Spur than any other in the franchise, tbh.

[dabom]

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Kawhi's camp has denied the rumors. RC has also. That's two named sources that have quickly spoken out. Are you going to believe RC and Kawhi's camp or the unnamed sources??

[LkrFan]

Damn... even Laker fans are begging Kawhi to sign with the Clippers.

[dabom]

RC and Kawhi's uncle. I don't see any "chilling" here.

[Dre_7]

No , Sherlock. It's not like Kawhi is going to say "it's all true, I hate the Spurs" in the middle of the season regardless of how he feels about the organization.

No, but knowing Kawhi, they would have kept quiet about it instead of immediately responding.

[DPG21920]

D-rob doesn't get near the credit he deserves. But it all started with him.

That is very true - great point.

[Darius Bieber]

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Kawhi's camp has denied the rumors. RC has also. That's two named sources that have quickly spoken out. Are you going to believe RC and Kawhi's camp or the unnamed sources??

Problem is, the whole CP3, Griffin, DJ beef was downplayed by Clippers management too. And it turned out to be true and Paul left. Woj is not an unnamed source, he's arguably the best source of leaked info in the NBA.

So, of course both the Spurs and Kawhi are doing damage control now. The Spurs are doing it to make their franchise keep up with the "status" they've achieved. Kawhi is doing it to keep his value high - nobody really wants drama on their team if other teams are gonna pursue him.

Remember this off-season? There were "unnamed" sources claiming Aldridge is unhappy and wanted to be traded.... Only after he signed a massive deal and midway through the season do we find out that he specifically asked Pop for a trade, wasn't happy in SA, wasn't happy with the leadership on the team.

Kawhi is unhappy in SA. That's a fact. He's leaving ASAP.

[Dre_7]

Problem is, the whole CP3, Griffin, DJ beef was downplayed by Clippers management too. And it turned out to be true and Paul left. Woj is not an unnamed source, he's arguably the best source of leaked info in the NBA.

But he got his info from unnamed sources. Management may have downplayed it but did CP3, Griffin, and DJ's camps immediately come out and make a statement once it was reported?

[Prose]

jalen rose called this last week and you will hear rumors of him wanting to go to LA. he also said that he wouldnt think he is going to leave. He called LMA to SA before anybody else

[Dre_7]

Kawhi is unhappy in SA. That's a fact. He's leaving ASAP.

You do know what the word "fact" means, right??