Kiwi now has a "chilling" relationship with the Sp*rs FO?

[Big Empty]

Well wait till the offseason and see if we can trade Kawhi for a top 3 pick. If he is unhappy its understandable given the current roster changes. (not much). Im sure he wants to go east. But if he is unhappy and ungrateful get him out of here. Trade LaMarcus too lets rebuild. The cap space will catch up to the teams overpaying mediocre players and there will not be GS big 4's anymore. Go ahead and unload Patty too in a package with Kawhi. We'll have a lottery season next year and get another high pick. That's the plan.

[sasaint]

And if they landed another big name, he would have to share the ball with them too. And Kawhi isn't as iso dependent because he is a very good catch and shoot player.

True. In some old thread I opined that Kawhi could embrace and thrive in any offensive scheme. He was a part of The Beautiful Game! However, in the current offense he is an iso-player by design, although he may not necessarily be an iso-player by preference. But this team needs a playmaker AND an alpha. We currently have neither. Throw such a player into the mix, and move LMA now while he has recouped value and pray that it works AND that it satisfies Kawhi.

To me this means that nobody on the roster is exempt from trade. Surely PATFO would not sacrifice Kawhi on the altar of their crumbling culture... Would they? If so, Kawhi should bring a king's ransom in return.

[Proxy]

I hear you, Spurs exceeded expectations and they looked damn good for 3 quarters in game 1. But the FO’s biggest issue is that they didn’t try hard enough to improve. Even this season with all the injuries the Spurs don’t take a flyer on anyone? Really? That’s pathetic.

Especially in a western conference where everyone was improving the Spurs took a step back. I think Kawhi sees what he’s surrounded with (LMA is not s good #2 option if you seriously want a championship) and realizes the future is bleak.

they didn't try hard enough, yet we heard reports that they went at Paul and Kyrie really hard

[bic50]

Well wait till the offseason and see if we can trade Kawhi for a top 3 pick. If he is unhappy its understandable given the current roster changes. (not much). Im sure he wants to go east. But if he is unhappy and ungrateful get him out of here. Trade LaMarcus too lets rebuild. The cap space will catch up to the teams overpaying mediocre players and there will not be GS big 4's anymore. Go ahead and unload Patty too in a package with Kawhi. We'll have a lottery season next year and get another high pick. That's the plan.

In what way is he ungrateful?

[TimDunkem]

In what way is he ungrateful?

God forbid he isn't cool with carrying a scrub team yet again coming off an injury the Spurs staff misdiagnosed to begin with.

[Darius Bieber]

God forbid he isn't cool with carrying a scrub team yet again coming off an injury the Spurs staff misdiagnosed to begin with.

Also, people here have become too accustomed to Duncan's character (post Orlando controversy). Kawhi has no obligation to the Spurs or to the fans. He can leave if he wants. The NBA is a business. You don't think the Spurs would kick his ass out to another team in a New York minute if the Warriors offered Steph and Klay for him? There is no loyalty.

[bic50]

God forbid he isn't cool with carrying a scrub team yet again coming off an injury the Spurs staff misdiagnosed to begin with.

Pop called Kawhi the future face of the franchise years ago and every off season Kawhi did his part and came back a better player then the season prior. The spurs front office has regressed imo.

[snickles]

Jesus Christ, this franchise has reached its lowest point in history

you must be pretty young....

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop called Kawhi the future face of the franchise years ago and every off season Kawhi did his part and came back a better player then the season prior. The spurs front office has regressed imo.

Truth bomb

[AFMadison]

Do you even pay attention to what's happening? They were trying hard to get Kyrie, and Aldridge was involved in those discussions.

This literally has 0 to do with the actual topic. You should probably read the actual article and not assume from the thread le that it's something that it isn't.

I read it, and trying really hard doesn’t mean e if it’s not accomplished. Woulda shoulda coulda.

[TimDunkem]

I read it, and trying really hard doesn’t mean e if it’s not accomplished. Woulda shoulda coulda.

They didn't even need to do that to improve. There were plenty of players out there that they could've signed.

Instead, Drunkford blew his load at 12:01 on Patty Mills, gave a fat contract to a washed up Spanish ostrich, signed the worst defensive big in NBA history and gave him a player option, while drafting a combo guard instead of working on upgrading the plethora of scrubby guards they already had.

PATFO blew it this offseason, and it really wouldn't be a surprise if everything that has been rumored is true.

[TheGreatYacht]

They didn't even need to do that to improve. There were plenty of players out there that they could've signed.

Instead, Drunkford blew his load at 12:01 on Patty Mills, gave a fat contract to a washed up Spanish ostrich, signed the worst defensive big in NBA history and gave him a player option, while drafting a combo guard instead of working on upgrading the plethora of scrubby guards they already had.

PATFO blew it this offseason, and it really wouldn't be a surprise if everything that has been rumored is true.

Chill bro, these fat fans are already mourning over the loss of multiple Sam's Clubs

[objective]

They didn't even need to do that to improve. There were plenty of players out there that they could've signed.

Instead, Drunkford blew his load at 12:01 on Patty Mills, gave a fat contract to a washed up Spanish ostrich, signed the worst defensive big in NBA history and gave him a player option, while drafting a combo guard instead of working on upgrading the plethora of scrubby guards they already had.

PATFO blew it this offseason, and it really wouldn't be a surprise if everything that has been rumored is true.

It's like Jeff McDonald tweeted after the Spurs gave their crap deals to Pau and Mills:

"The Spurs have won five les, it's OK to let someone else have a turn."

[TimDunkem]

It's like Jeff McDonald tweeted after the Spurs gave their crap deals to Pau and Mills:

"The Spurs have won five les, it's OK to let someone else have a turn."

He's a hack. Literally the worst take I've read in the past year or two. As if players like Kawhi are okay with letting another team have a turn.

This is exactly the kind of we used to make fun of Suns' and Mavericks' fans for.

[cd98]

It's like Jeff McDonald tweeted after the Spurs gave their crap deals to Pau and Mills:

"The Spurs have won five les, it's OK to let someone else have a turn."

Patty Mills signing was bad, but Gasol has been good and his contract isn't that bad and is tradable in the future to a cap clearing team.

[daslicer]

Patty Mills signing was bad, but Gasol has been good and his contract isn't that bad and is tradable in the future to a cap clearing team.

I always subtract 1 year from a players contract because like you said the last year of the contract is always trade-able. Spurs signed Mills to a bad 4 year contract but in reality they are probably stuck with him for another 2 years after this season and then they will be able to trade him.

[YGWHI]

I would not want to be Michael Wright

That dude is about to come up missing. Pop and RC are not about that loose lips life. Consider his access revoked.

We thought the same about Jabari Young after his "unhappy LMA" article... But he's still on SAEN. Wright will be fine.

[YGWHI]

Is his uncle still in San Antonio.

He travels to see Kawhi very often but never lived in San Antonio.

Does his Mom and Uncle still live in San Antonio?

His mom still does it.

[YGWHI]

But during the season THIS YEAR Kawhi said the injury was not from last year.

Kawhi himself said it wasn't an injury from last year.

He said that before he got a 2nd opinion and hired his own doctor/rehab staff. Also, Kawhi will never throw Spurs staff under the buss in public.

Kawhi had a quad contusion in February last season. Spurs medical staff thought it wasn’t serious, just sat him one game, the first game of the Rodeo Road trip as precaution.

He played the rest of the season & playoffs with that issue. Spurs doctors told Pop they didn’t find any structural damage in his quad. Then Kawhi trained hard all summer instead of getting the correct treatment..

Anyway, Kawhi won't leave SA. He just needs to start trusting them again after their summer mistake.

[YGWHI]

Maybe his talent is. But his value is a player, who can't play without getting hurt is not. Grant Hill 2.0.

If there are guys that cute who think a lost season due to injury prevents players from signing max deals.........Just look at AD and Conley contracts.

[duncan2k5]

Tim never had his mind made up that he was definitely leaving. He was enticed by the idea of playing alongside Grant Hill. Certainly at that time because Hill was a great player that was an obvious enticement. At the end of the day he spoke to pop and David Robinson and stayed. That’s it.

Grant Hill?? Did u watch basketball back then? Tim was gonna be playing with T-Mac

[duncan2k5]

Duncan was a iron man during his first 6 years of the league compared to Kawhi. I calculated the percentage of games Duncan played in and it turned out to be 98 percent while Kawhi played 83 percent during his first 6 years. I also didn't factor in this season but I have feeling that number will drop down to somewhere in the 70's after this season. 83 percent is not bad but Duncan was just on another level when it came to durability. I still remember him wanting to play with his torn meniscus during the '00 playoffs but Pop wouldn't allow it. I felt Duncan was deranged that you would literally have to cut off his legs ISIS style for him not to play.

Bro...u are calculating kawhis rookie year where he wasn't a high lottery pick... Of course he wasn't gonna play all games under Pop... Also back then pop wasn't into resting players... A significant portion of kawhis missed games was pop intentionally sitting him even with no injuries

[duncan2k5]

True. In some old thread I opined that Kawhi could embrace and thrive in any offensive scheme. He was a part of The Beautiful Game! However, in the current offense he is an iso-player by design, although he may not necessarily be an iso-player by preference. But this team needs a playmaker AND an alpha. We currently have neither. Throw such a player into the mix, and move LMA now while he has recouped value and pray that it works AND that it satisfies Kawhi.

To me this means that nobody on the roster is exempt from trade. Surely PATFO would not sacrifice Kawhi on the altar of their crumbling culture... Would they? If so, Kawhi should bring a king's ransom in return.

Kawhi isn't an alpha???? You guys are ing idiots... No wonder his camp wants him to leave... With the they read on here... Smfh

[Quiet Strength]

Grant Hill?? Did u watch basketball back then? Tim was gonna be playing with T-Mac

And Grant Hill

[duncan2k5]

And Grant Hill

Brothers.... During that time grant hill wasn't the attraction... He was already considered injury prone and on the downside of his career... T-Mac was the big draw