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Crazy. Murder rate is down despite all the illegal immigration since then
Cool.
So why are guns the weapon of choice for most mass killers. Rather than knives, bombs, trucks, etc
Crazy. Murder rate is down despite all the illegal immigration since then
I found a dumb mother er, it wasn’t hard in your dumb country.
Last edited by benfti; 02-17-2018 at 02:39 AM.
Okay, I was just elected Supreme Furor of the United States. I just got done banning soccer and now it's time to tackle the gun control issue. Tell me if these are unreasonable measures to go through if you want to own a firearm.
- Minimum age: 21
- Cannot have been convicted of a felony and misdemeanor domestic violence (already on the books currently).
- Persons diagnosed with mental health disorders such as: schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, anti-social personality disorder, bipolar disorder are prohibited. Persons with obsessive compulsive disorder, panic disorder, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, clinical depression, and addiction disorders are required to attend/continue their treatment program as recommended by their doctor.
- Mandatory gun safety class for the 3 major categories of firearm: handguns, shotguns, and rifles.
- Tiered licensing structure. The initial license granted will be Class A, allowing the person to purchase and posses only handguns, shotguns, and single shot rifles after the above criteria are met. A Class B license, which allows purchase of rifles that exceed single shot capacity, can be applied for after one year of obtaining the Class A license.
- Gun dealers must perform mandatory background checks to examine for the above conditions. If any of the above conditions are not met, sale is prohibited. Additionally, gun dealer has the right to refuse service, even if purchaser meets the conditions in question.
- Licenses must be renewed every two years after date of issue.
- License can be revoked if any of the above conditions are violated.
Just ban automatic and semi automatic weapons you stick. There is zero reason other than being a mouth breathing dumb to own one
What's the compelling case why 'Guns don't'? And are you referring to outright banning all guns? That's would fall into draconian, and we already know it's not legally possible. Although we do know banning certain guns is.
We didn't ban all paint when we found out lead in them was toxic, pollutant and a public hazard, but we did ban some of them. Asbestos in insulation also didn't ban all insulation, but did effectively address another public hazard.
Cigarettes regulation and taxing took a while, due to the industry prowess, but eventually was also more or less reined in.
Point being, there's plenty of regulation that's not outright banning, that's been provably effective.
Not at all. Actually a good case has been made repeatedly that legalizing drugs for recreational use under a regulated framework would be much more effective than the current outright ban, which we already know doesn't work.
Will bad actors continue to sell toxic or contaminated drugs in the black market? Sure. That's an enforcement problem, and doesn't preclude actually having a legally regulated channel.
Yeah, it's also akin to abortion. You could argue, "Well, don't legalize and regulate abortion, since there's always going to be this shady clinics that will do it anyways". But actually do legalizing and requiring properly licensed doctors to carry out the procedure has saved lives (and it has even if you argue that a baby was killed, the premise is that this person was going to carry out the abortion anyways), despite whether you morally agree or not with the procedure. This is actually an area where certain conservatives do want an outright ban on moral grounds, where it's been demonstrated that a regulated approach is actually much more effective.
Preach.
Bingo.
We just give in.
Oh it's the world we live in.
"Can we compare gun safe home protection arsenals, I want to make sure I'm properly equipped."
Dont you bring your practical in here.
You dare defy the zealotry protocol required to post on these issues, pfffttt.
each gun must have govt liability insurance
each gun must be serialized and registered in a national database of owner and owner's guns
each gun must pay an annual registration fee
loss of a gun is automatic $1000 fine
if the gun is used by the non-owner to injure or kill someone, the owner is fined $5000 and 3 years in prison as co-shooter "at fault". This really s up the cost of the gun owner's gun liability insurance.
the govt costs of the above is fully funded by revenues from the registration and insurance fees. If not enough revenue, then the govt insurance and registration fees are increased until the revenue is enough.
All of this is FEDERAL bureaucracy (including FEDERAL database of all guns owners), not state or municipal.
Any gun found where the owner cannot provide, on the spot, both proof of current registration and insurance, the gun will be confiscated and destroyed and the owner/possessor fined $1000 per gun.
DWI, domestic violence require gun owner to turn in all guns for one year after each violation.
All of the above applies to govt employees (military, DHS/DBP/ICE, police, sheriff) who lose 1000s guns every year.
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Nation Hears Voices Encouraging It To Buy Gun
Searching for a motive to explain the country’s epidemic of mass shootings, sources confirmed Friday that
the nation was constantly hearing voices encouraging it to buy a gun.
“I hear them all the time, these angry, paranoid voices urging me to go out and arm myself,”
said Pennsylvania resident Arthur Moreland, echoing the sentiments of millions across the country who confirmed that
the voices had been trying to persuade them for a long time now, and that
no matter what they did, they couldn’t get them to stop.
“At first, I tried just shutting out the voices that keep insisting there are lots of bad people in the world out to get me and
that I’ll never be safe without a gun.
But they’re everywhere and they never shut up.
God, if they don’t stop soon,
I’m worried I might do something rash.”
At press time, the increasingly cagey and fearful nation had decided to seek help acquiring a semiautomatic rifle.
https://www.theonion.com/nation-hears-voices-encouraging-it-to-buy-gun-1823084495?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_so urce=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing
ElNono and midnightpulp are killing it with their measured and practical arguments.
I think the comparison to car licenses is very fair, almost too fair. I think something that gets lost in this debate is that guns have one purpose, to injure/kill. When someone dies from prescription drugs, car accidents, or even a kitchen knife, those objects are being used in a way that is NOT their crafted purpose.
At the very least, guns should be subject to the same access limitations as cars, but imo the framework around the limitation should be even stricter, like you pointed out in your "fuhrer" post
"I think the comparison to car licenses is very fair,"
yes, including annual registration fee, GIN (like a VIN), $100Ks in liability insurance, plus liability for stolen or lost gun, and even more penalty if lost gun is used in a crime.
CarFax to be paralleled by a GunFax
Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-17-2018 at 01:36 PM.
Want to see gun control enacted?
Support a movement to arm all black Americans (Muslim Americans)
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/wan...e+Raw+Story%29
i can't wait to buy my first gun... had another weirdo the other night trying to get into my apartment. this is twice now and it freaks me the out. this time around it was some drunk chick who mistook my apartment for the one across from me so no biggie. the first time though it was some short dude spazzing out in front of my door with what looked like a gun in his hand and he was hitting the out of my door.
i'd love a gun for my apartment and shop. i really want a shotgun for my apartment and a 9mm for the shop.
Yeah, this is what got both the NRA and St. Ronnie on board for gun control:
Blacks REALLY got the right to vote in the slave states when ARMED black men started patrolling voting sites.Yeah, this is what got both the NRA and St. Ronnie on board for gun control:
for lol's because who the uses checks anyhow these days? all for the media. that's all the DNC and their lackeys got anymore. media hype is all they got. ing trolls!
So to be consistent, you want guns banned, right?
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