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    I find it amusing how you dismiss this so casually, while almost certainly missing the underlying subtext of the organization required for this.

    As I said before, not afraid of Mueller's firing. It would be the end of the Trump presidency in not too short order.

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    You do realize this is just to let people know where to go for an organized protest, right?

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    You do realize this is just to let people know where to go for an organized protest, right?
    A grass roots infrastructure already in place to fight this. As I have said, Democrats are as worked up as we have ever been in my lifetime. Trump firing Mueller will see millions of people in the streets, and the final straw that will force the Trump party old-school holdouts to rebel against the Dear Leader.

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    No, you don't know if he lied, dumb .

    "The F.B.I. expects every employee to adhere to the highest standards of honesty, integrity, and accountability,” Mr. Sessions said.

    Mr. McCabe denies being untruthful. He says he answered every question honestly and, when he was misunderstood, he reached out to the investigators to correct the record.

    What’s next?

    We won’t be able to assess the allegations, or Mr. McCabe’s defense, until the inspector general’s report is released. That is expected sometime this spring. Mr. McCabe has seen it but cannot discuss it until it is public. When it is released, his lawyers say, he has a point-by-point rebuttal to offer......"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/u...explained.html
    You missed a couple sentences from your article, including the one right before you started your quote

    "What we know right now is that Mr. Sessions found repeated examples in which Mr. McCabe “lacked candor.” And career officials — not Trump appointees — recommended dismissal. Mr. Sessions accepted that recommendation."

    "During the internal investigation, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said, Mr. McCabe “lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.” That is a fireable offense, and Mr. Sessions said that career, apolitical employees at the F.B.I. and Justice Department agreed that Mr. McCabe should be fired."


    McCabe is grasping for straws. He lied, and career, apolitical employees at the FBI and DOJ caught him.

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    No, you don't know because there are no perjury charges. Nobody is even talking of perjury charges.

    You're speculating.

    Tsa doing the usual round and round.

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    You missed a couple sentences from your article, including the one right before you started your quote

    "What we know right now is that Mr. Sessions found repeated examples in which Mr. McCabe “lacked candor.” And career officials — not Trump appointees — recommended dismissal. Mr. Sessions accepted that recommendation."

    "During the internal investigation, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said, Mr. McCabe “lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.” That is a fireable offense, and Mr. Sessions said that career, apolitical employees at the F.B.I. and Justice Department agreed that Mr. McCabe should be fired."


    McCabe is grasping for straws. He lied, and career, apolitical employees at the FBI and DOJ caught him.
    Speaking of criminal investigations:


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    No, you don't know because there are no perjury charges. Nobody is even talking of perjury charges.

    You're speculating.

    Tsa doing the usual round and round.
    Notice how pointedly, he is ignoring the financial times story. Why do you think that is?

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    No, you don't know because there are no perjury charges. Nobody is even talking of perjury charges.

    You're speculating.

    Tsa doing the usual round and round.
    There doesn't have to be perjury charges to know that he lied under oath

    "During the internal investigation, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said, Mr. McCabe “lacked candor — including under oath — on multiple occasions.”

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    Notice how pointedly, he is ignoring the financial times story. Why do you think that is?
    Do you mind posting the actual links to the articles instead of a useless screenshot?

    And did you expect the DOJ to ignore the recommendation of the OIG and FBI OPR to fire McCabe yes or no?

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    So since TSA is so reluctant to face Trumps money laundering activities, let's see what nasty things scurry out from under the rocks.

    Mukhtar Ablyazov

    The most recent post-Soviet oligarch to surface in connection with a Trump project is Mukhtar Ablyazov, the chairman of a bank tied to a planned Trump tower in the Republic of Georgia. This week’s New Yorker details the abortive plans for two towers in Georgia, and the involvement of Ablyazov, who apparently acquired his vast fortune by simply taking it from a Kazakh bank that since has been seized by that country’s government.

    Shortly after his conviction, Ablyazov became involved with the Trumps via Trump Organization executive Michael Cohen. The B.T.A.-controlled Silk Road Group negotiated with Cohen to license the Trump name for a tower in Batumi, a Georgian city on the Black Sea—an unusual move for a company based in Kazakhstan—and suggested that plans for a second tower in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi were underway, as well. The Silk Road Group, like other business Trump has partnered with to develop branded properties, was not primarily a real estate concern: It was a petrochemical shipping business.

    Ablyazov’s multi-billion-dollar theft is part of a vast money-laundering probe by Kazakh authorities, in which the Financial Times reported that Trump associate Felix Sater is cooperating. That probe also involves Ablyazov’s son-in-law, Ilyas Khrapunov, who is accused in U.S. lawsuits of laundering money by buying and quickly reselling American luxury condos, including three units in Trump-branded buildings, according to a recent article published by McClatchy.
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckra...rs-soviet-cash

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    Do you mind posting the actual links to the articles instead of a useless screenshot?
    So you can "LOL" at the source and ignore it like you do anything bad about Trump?

    right off, and find this for yourself with 1/10th the energy you spend on Hillary, dip .

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    There doesn't have to be perjury charges to know that he lied under oath
    Uh, yes there does. It's a criminal act to lie under oath. Do you really not know this?

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    Alexander Shnaider

    Then there is Alexander Shnaider, one of the wealthiest men in Canada who developed what used to be the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Toronto. Shnaider began ac ulating his vast wealth in Ukraine shortly after the collapse of the USSR while working for his father-in-law, Boris Birshtein. Birshtein is an associate of notorious Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich, according to an August 1998 FBI report on Mogilevich’s organization, which says Birshtein hosted a meeting between the monster and his associates in Tel Aviv.

    ...

    Four years later, Shnaider was turning down offers for $1.2 billion for the same mill, and he was in the real estate business for the first time in his life: A deal to build the tallest building in Toronto with Trump.

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    So you can "LOL" at the source and ignore it like you do anything bad about Trump?

    right off, and find this for yourself with 1/10th the energy you spend on Hillary, dip .
    I "LOL" at your Wonkette and Vox articles, but if you want to be a so be it.

    Looking forward to you dodging this question yet again.

    Did you expect the DOJ to ignore the recommendation of the OIG and FBI OPR to fire McCabe yes or no?

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    Tevfik Arif

    Like Ablyazov and Khrapunov, Tevfik Arif, who founded the frequent Trump partner Bayrock Group, hails from Kazakhstan. The origins of the elusive financier’s personal wealth can be partially deduced from a massive information dump to German newspaper Der Spiegel. Arif, who was once an economist for the USSR Ministry of Commerce and Trade, and his brother, Refik, acquired a chromium plant in Kazakhstan, according to Tokyo-based international publication The Diplomat, which reviewed the files shared with Der Spiegel. When exactly the Arifs acquired and sold off the plant is hard to discern; in 2001, Arif moved part of his business to the U.S. and began to work with Trump. The plant, which was headquartered offshore, and is now owned by a Chinese consortium.

    Arif’s company, Bayrock, is among the most notorious examples of former Soviet bloc officials putting personal wealth acquired in the economic collapses across central Asia toward financing Trump hotels and condominiums. The Trump SoHo development, which was troubled almost from the start, was the subject of complaints from private investors who accused Bayrock of failing to disclose the fraud convictions of Arif’s partners, Felix Sater and Sal Lauria, to investors. According to a New York Times article about the development’s legal woes, the project also took “financing from questionable sources in Russia and Kazakhstan.”

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    I "LOL" at your Wonkette and Vox articles, but if you want to be a so be it.

    Looking forward to you dodging this question yet again.

    Did you expect the DOJ to ignore the recommendation of the OIG and FBI OPR to fire McCabe yes or no?
    I will continue to not answer your question, as you did not answer mine. You have the conditions under which I will answer your question, yet refuse to fulfill them.

    I am not dodging any question at all, merely providing the conditions under which you will get your answer, because I do not think you act in good faith on anything. Your choice not to provide the information, my choice to refrain from giving you yours.

    Keep asking. It's funny.

    Quid.
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    Uh, yes there does. It's a criminal act to lie under oath. Do you really not know this?
    Do you not know what lacking candor under oath means? Do you not know how rare it is for public officials to be charged with perjury?

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    I will continue to not answer your question, as you did not answer mine. You have the conditions under which I will answer your question, yet refuse to provide the answer.

    I am not dodging any question at all, merely providing the conditions under which you will get your answer, because I do not think you act in good faith on anything. Your choice not to provide the information, my choice to refrain from giving you yours.

    keep asking. It's funny.
    dodge duly noted

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    dodge duly noted
    Dodge duly noted.

    Quid.
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    Felix Sater

    Felix Sater is not a name that has come up much during the presidential campaign. That he has a colorful past is an understatement: The Russian-born Sater served a year in prison for stabbing a man in the face with a margarita glass during a bar fight, pleaded guilty to racketeering as part of a mafia-driven "pump-and-dump" stock fraud and then escaped jail time by becoming a highly valued government informant.

    He was also an important figure at Bayrock, a development company and key Trump real estate partner during the 2000s, notably with the Trump SoHo hotel-condominium in New York City, and has said under oath that he represented Trump in Russia and subsequently billed himself as a senior Trump advisor, with an office in Trump Tower.

    Usually such an association would ignite a political firestorm. From the Clintons' Whitewater deals to Richard Nixon's relationship with Florida banker and developer Bebe Rebozo, all the way back to 19th-century industrialist Mark Hanna's influence over William McKinley, presidential candidates have long suffered by dint of association.

    Sater has been profiled in the Washington Post, on ABC News and in several other outlets. But few have taken much note of him, presumably because Trump has said, under oath, that he barely knew him. "If he were sitting in the room right now, I really wouldn't know what he looked like," he said in a deposition in November 2013. Asked how many times he had ever conversed with Sater, he said, "Not many." And asked about a previous BBC interview, in which he was questioned about Sater's mafia connections, Trump said he didn't recall the interview.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/richard...nected-hustler

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    A grass roots infrastructure already in place to fight this. As I have said, Democrats are as worked up as we have ever been in my lifetime. Trump firing Mueller will see millions of people in the streets, and the final straw that will force the Trump party old-school holdouts to rebel against the Dear Leader.

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    Looking into Trump's deals, FORBES has uncovered numerous e-mails and sworn statements that indicate Sater was closer to Trump, his organization and his children than previously revealed. Additionally, FORBES has connected three billionaire oligarchs from Kazakhstan to potential deals involving Trump and Sater.

    Why does this matter? The story of Sater and the one involving billionaires quietly backing the Trump-Bayrock deals speaks to a key virtue of any good businessman--due diligence--that seems especially relevant for a candidate running on private-sector a en and the need to do "extreme vetting" of those seeking to get into the country.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/richard...nected-hustler
    Forbes and the Financial Times.

    A bit more:
    A full-color 28-page presentation by the Bayrock Group, produced in 2007, reveals that the equity financing and "strategic partners" for Trump projects--the Trump SoHo hotel-condo in New York as well as other proposed developments in Florida and Arizona--will come from two sources. One of the those is FL Group, a publicly traded investment company in Iceland that capsized a year later. The other listed partner is Alexander Machkevich and the Eurasia Group, which he controls with Chodiev and Ibragimov (the Trio). If Trump and the Trio have ever met, it's not apparent. Only the Trump SoHo was ever finished. Eventually Bayrock's involvement in Trump projects all but disappeared. It's unclear whether the Trio ever put money into a Trump project. The Trio did not respond to multiple requests for comment.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/richard...oligarch-trio/

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    But wait, there are MORE crooked figures handing Crooked Donny checks.

    Who is Bayrock....let's see.

    PATOKH CHODIEV

    Billionaire oligarchs Patokh Chodiev, Alijan Ibragimov and Alexander Machkevich have long been known as the Trio in Kazakhstan, where they built their fortunes in mining, oil and gas and banking. In the 1990s they partnered in something known as the Chodiev Group, joining with Michael Cherney, who the FBI believed was a major Russian organized-crime figure. Cherney has long denied the accusation, and a decade-long mega-probe of him by U.S. law enforcement--as well as similar probes in Israel, Spain and Switzerland--resulted in no indictments.

    Uzbekistan-born Chodiev, who FORBES estimates has a net worth of $1.8 billion, was the central figure in a case involving the purchase in 1996 of real estate by the Trio and the wife of a Kazakh prime minister. The Trio claims the purchase was made on behalf of the prime minister because he wanted to keep it secret. The prime minister, Akhezan Kazhegeldin, says the purchase was never completed but alleges it was subsequently bought by individuals linked to the Kazakh regime.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/richard...-oligarch-trio

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