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    And honestly RG, I voted for Trump too. I really do agree with him on 90% of the issues but this tariff thing has been a real eye opener for me. Yes it impacts me greatly on a day to day so it’s easy for me to pay attention too, but at the same time, it’s goig to have such a negative impact on my livelihood it’s making me long for the days of do nothing politicians.
    How can you agree with Trump on 90% of the issues when Trump's stance has been all over the place on healthcare, DACA, trade, etc? Or do you mean you agree with Paul Ryan's agenda that Trump has rubber stamped since getting elected 90% of the time?
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    How can you agree with Trump on 90% of the issues when Trump's stance has been all over the place on healthcare, DACA, trade, etc? Or do you mean you agree with Paul Ryan's agenda that Trump has rubber stamped since getting elected 90% of the time?
    You’re absolutely correct....I need to rephrase that because it’s something I say often when discussing Trump....what I should really be saying is that I agreed with 90% of his economic policies as they were laid out on his platform while running for office.

    Honestly, I think I’m just in a stop saying that.

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    Not entirely unfair observation.

    I can summarize what is going on wrong a lot more simply: A thoroughly corrupt and incompetent president.

    That incompetence is the cause of the tariffs in the OP. I was merely noting that the tariffs were the tip of the berg. If you think you 90% support him, the problem is that you aren't really paying attention. His policies are , because he has no grasp on any of the important issues.

    The corruption and incompetence is so breathtaking in its scope that remaining silent is to be complicit in the destruction, akin to watching a building burn down and not calling the fire department, because you like the glow.

    Lol....that last part cracked me up. As for the rest of it....that’s fair and I need to stop only focusing on what impacts me alone.

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    Don’t kill me for this one, but I think your post here is one of he main problems for liberals right now....you’re so mad at the entire situation that you’re all over the place with the complaints (I don’t totally blame you either because I’d be the same way if Hillary had won). Your above post has little relevance to what we were discussing but you cant help it because you view EVERYTHING as an issue (again, don’t blame you).
    His solution is to remove what he sees as the problem namely the POTUS and his GOP congress. He is fairly single minded in purpose. I see no problem with it.

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    Awesome. Let's ing do it. Trump unchained.
    Something does need to be done about China, but obviously I'm not confident in Trump having anywhere near the competence to handle the situation. They are indeed the biggest "cheat" in global trade, with nefarious practices that would make even the most merciless Fortune 500 company blush. Dumping, blatant disregard for intellectual property laws and rights, patent infringement, the list goes on. Amazon is also complicit here for having piss poor quality control in what they'll sell on the site. A common Chinese tactic is to see what items are hot sellers on Amazon and the like, reverse engineer the product, and then undercut the original. And in pretty much every instance, it's of much lower quality and even dangerous, as in the case of this egg shaped pet bed that was a hit on Amazon. Chinese merchant ripped off the design, but didn't build their version correctly, and it wound up tipping over and suffocating pets.
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    Lol....that last part cracked me up. As for the rest of it....that’s fair and I need to stop only focusing on what impacts me alone.
    The level if disregard for ethics and good transparent governance is without precedent. I have read enough to make me truly alarmed at what is happening.

    The deputy EPA chief being allowed to consult with businesses and not disclose who is paying him... wow.

    The problem is that putting ideology over competence, and driving out experience and knowledge WILL have an impact, but that won't be felt for years. It's like letting the infrastructure under a bridge decay. You don't see it until it collapses and someone dies.

    It will be subtle, but will affect everybody in some way.

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    Im already getting a lot of price increase notices even before details are finalized.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-tru...gin-1521241456

    The Trump Tariff Layoffs Begin
    A keg manufacturer lays off workers as domestic steel prices rise.

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    Something does need to be done about China, but obviously I'm not confident in Trump having anywhere near the competence to handle the situation. They are indeed the biggest "cheat" in global trade, with nefarious practices that would make even the most merciless Fortune 500 company blush. Dumping, blatant disregard for intellectual property laws and rights, patent infringement, the list goes on. Amazon is also complicit here for having piss poor quality control in what they'll sell on the site. A common Chinese tactic is to see what items are hot sellers on Amazon and the like, reverse engineer the product, and then undercut the original. And in pretty much every instance, it's of much lower quality and even dangerous, as in the case of this egg shaped pet bed that was a hit on Amazon. Chinese merchant ripped off the design, but didn't build their version correctly, and it wound up tipping over and suffocating pets.
    Yup. Pretty much right on all counts.

    Trump's big problem is that he is not really all that intelligent, and profoundly uncurious. This means his understanding of the world is based on the way it was in 1985.

    has changed, but because he does not follow events, nor bother with developing an understanding of issues, his entire conception of reality is flawed.

    Good policy coming out of a fantasy world rarely happens. Even a blind man can throw darts and hit a bull's-eye on occasion, but don't bet on it.

    So instead of policies aimed at intellectual property, we have policies based on metal. Instead of focusing on job training for new jobs, we have policies that solve a problem that never really existed in the first place (most steel jobs got lost to automation, not foreign compe ion)

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    Implementation of metals tariffs remains muddled days before they take effect

    governments and businesses across the globe are in a fog as to what is happening and

    are bracing for at least a short-term hit because of what many criticize as the administration's slapdash process.

    he exempted Mexico and Canada, at least temporarily, and said that

    other nations could negotiate with the White House to get out of paying duties on tens of billions of dollars of imports.

    the administration still has not spelled out in any detail what trading partners must do to secure a country exemption.

    And with just a few days before the tariffs take effect, the void has left many companies and governments frustrated and concerned that the trade action could spiral into a global crisis.


    Trade ministers from Europe and other countries have been scrambling to meet with Trump officials in recent days,

    even as they and business groups in the U.S. and abroad have been waiting for the administration to clarify what it will take for nations to get tariff exemptions.

    "Clear as mud," said one diplomatic official in Washington of the process.

    "The entire process, the tone, time schedules — all these elements —

    are annoying people here and

    harming the image of the United States in an unnecessary fashion,"


    Trump charged ahead with the formal tariff orders, which he justified on the basis of national security,

    even before his administration could prepare the necessary rules and procedures for countries and companies seeking exemptions for steel and aluminum products.


    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...s=mcnewsletter

    piece of self-pre-occupied sicko Trash provides nothing but toxic chaos, while the Repugs and oligarchy love how he's ing up govt, which is their long-term strategy anyway.


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    So now we have Chinese tariffs announced.

    Chinese government will be more than happy to leverage any pain felt into anti-US, pro-government sentiment.

    For the Chinese government the tariffs will be a win-win, as it will allow them political capital to do things they wouldn't otherwise.

    Trump has miscalculated his negotiating position, and badly.

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    rump on Thursday is set to announce wide-reaching tariffs on at least $50 billion worth of Chinese imports, an administration official said, following a seven-month investigation into the intellectual property theft, which has been a longstanding point of contention in US-China trade relations.
    The move, which comes on the heels of the administration's steel and aluminum tariffs that also took aim at China, has already been met with threats of retaliation from China and is heightening concerns of a global trade war that could destabilize the global economy -- fears the Trump administration has repeatedly brushed off.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/22/polit...war/index.html

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    Hilarious that Trash is punishing China for ripping off USA, after Trash has ripped off his suppliers for decades.

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    I thought Xi Jinping was Trump's dude?

    This guy doesn't know what the he's doing.

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    Something does need to be done about China, but obviously I'm not confident in Trump having anywhere near the competence to handle the situation. They are indeed the biggest "cheat" in global trade, with nefarious practices that would make even the most merciless Fortune 500 company blush. Dumping, blatant disregard for intellectual property laws and rights, patent infringement, the list goes on. Amazon is also complicit here for having piss poor quality control in what they'll sell on the site. A common Chinese tactic is to see what items are hot sellers on Amazon and the like, reverse engineer the product, and then undercut the original. And in pretty much every instance, it's of much lower quality and even dangerous, as in the case of this egg shaped pet bed that was a hit on Amazon. Chinese merchant ripped off the design, but didn't build their version correctly, and it wound up tipping over and suffocating pets.
    Looks like we get to find out.

    As noted, Trump's tariffs are a good thing for Beijing, who will get to use them politically.

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    How Trump’s Protectionism Backfires




    Many of the industries sensitive to the
    tariffs are clustered in places that turned
    out most enthusiastically for Mr. Trump.






    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...backfires.html

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    "are you better off than you were a year ago" questions will be very pointed.

    The US economy doesn't turn on a dime, and these tariffs will take a few months to be felt.

    November is probably enough time for the first few layoffs and price increases to be evidenced.

    LOL Trump 2020

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    10Ms still are NOT making the $$$, after inflation, they made back in early 2000's

    Corporate America Is Suppressing Wages for Many Workers

    It is tempting to think that wage stagnation is intractable, a result of long-term trends, like automation and globalization, that government is powerless to do anything about.

    In fact, a growing body of evidence pins much of the blame on a specific culprit, one for which proven legal weapons already exist. But they are not being used.


    The culprit is “monopsony power.”

    This term is used by economists to refer to the ability of an employer to suppress wages below the efficient or perfectly compe ive level of compensation.

    a large seller — like a cable company — is able to demand high prices for poor service because consumers have no other choice.

    It turns out that

    many corporations possess bargaining power over their workers, not just over their consumers.

    Their workers accept low wages and substandard working conditions because few alternative job opportunities exist for them or because switching jobs is costly. In other words, in the labor market,

    effectively a small number of employers are competing for their labor.

    Monopsony power is frequently created through

    noncompete clauses and

    no-poaching agreements and

    is aimed at the most vulnerable workers.

    contracts that limit their ability to find new jobs even after they leave their old one.

    noncompete clauses remain ubiquitous.

    one in five workers with a high school education or less are subject to a noncompete.

    A quarter of all workers are covered by a noncompete agreement with their current employer or a past one.

    over half of major franchises forbid their franchisees from competing for one another’s workers,

    up from 36 percent in 1996.

    Businesses have also discovered that they
    can push down labor costs by outsourcing work.

    Because outsourcing companies may have greater labor market power than the original firms, they can reduce workers’ wages.


    common features of the labor market give enormous bargaining advantages to employers.

    industries are increasingly dominated by a small number of huge companies, which means that workers have fewer choices among employers in their area.

    When employers exercise monopsonistic power, wages are suppressed, jobs are left unfilled, and economic growth suffers.

    the public learned that high-tech companies, including Google and Apple, had agreed not to poach one another’s talent, a flagrant monopsonistic tactic that brought down the wrath of the Justice Department.

    no-poaching agreements have continued unabated.

    Senators Warren and Booker have pressed the Justice Department to discharge its responsibilities. In its response, the

    Justice Department professed it

    “takes very seriously its mission to protect compe ion,

    which benefits both consumers and workers.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/o...etType=opinion

    Repug DoJ, controlled by Capital, ain't gonna do for Labor.

    War on Employees will become more intense, ruthless

    Capital crushing Labor will be the rule

    Horrible U.S. inequality will increase horribly.

    The American Dream, gotta be asleep to believe it.




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    Hilarious that Trash is punishing China for ripping off USA, after Trash has ripped off his suppliers for decades.
    In your own words, how has he ripped off suppliers for decades? Not saying your wrong, but would just like to know.

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    In your own words, how has he ripped off suppliers for decades? Not saying your wrong, but would just like to know.
    To begin with: the contractors he owed money to when he went into bankruptcy were creditors who were in line for money after the big banks. They got shafted.

    His companies are notorious for attempting to get out of paying because of some made up flaw in the work. That is part of why he gets sued so much.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uits/85297274/

    Few hudred people there all claiming the same thing, in a lawsuit.

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    DC-area contractors claim Trump owes them more than $3 million

    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/312...than-3-million

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    Trump’s DC Hotel Tagged With $5 Million in Unpaid Worker Liens

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d-worker-liens

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    Hope that helps john

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    Lol....it does RG....I only laugh cause I was asking Boutons and you’re currently irritated with people calling you baby boutons.

    Regarding Trump....I agree, that’s horse ....but it’s also par for the course regardingbcontractors and their relationships with suppliers. I deal with t every single day and I have a saying about it that I use quite often....”all contractors lie all the time....no exceptions”.

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    Lol....it does RG....I only laugh cause I was asking Boutons and you’re currently irritated with people calling you baby boutons.

    Regarding Trump....I agree, that’s horse ....but it’s also par for the course regardingbcontractors and their relationships with suppliers. I deal with t every single day and I have a saying about it that I use quite often....”all contractors lie all the time....no exceptions”.
    Sorry, it seemed like a request for information that I knew something about. I should have let Boo speak for himself.

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