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Figure out how that kid got the gun and see what we can do to help stop getting kids guns so ing easily.
No gun today, no shooting today.
What's your solution that would have prevented the shooting today?
Figure out how that kid got the gun and see what we can do to help stop getting kids guns so ing easily.
No gun today, no shooting today.
This kid knew there was an armed resource officer there and went in anyway.
That's too vague for me to even discuss.
That goes without saying but also a vague statement.
You don't have to discuss.
I'd rather discuss your vague solution for "more guns". But you clearly would rather not. Lol.
6 Reasons Gun Control Will Not Solve Mass Killings
In the wake of the tragic murder of 17 innocent students and teachers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, students, educators, politicians, and activists are searching for solutions to prevent future school shootings.
As emotions morph from grief to anger to resolve, it is vitally important to supply facts so that policymakers and professionals can fashion solutions based on objective data rather than well-intended but misguided emotional fixes.
Are there ways to reduce gun violence and school shootings? Yes, but only after objectively assessing the facts and working collaboratively to fashion common-sense solutions.
Definitions
“Mass shooting” typically refers to mass killings where the assailant used a firearm or firearms. In 2013, Congress defined “mass killing” as “3 or more killings in a single incident.”
A prominent 2017 study defined “mass public shootings” as incidents that occur in the absence of other criminal activity (such as robberies, drug deals, and gang-related turf wars) in which a gun is used to kill four or more victims at a public location.
1. Mass killings are rare, and mass public shootings are even rarer.
Mass killings are very rare, accounting for only 0.2 percent of homicides every year and approximately 1 percent of homicide victims.
Only 12 percent of mass killings are mass public shootings. Most mass killings are familicides (murders of family members or intimate partners) and felony-related killings (such as robberies gone awry or gang-related “turf battles”).
Although there has been a slight increase in the frequency of mass public shootings over the past few years, the rates are still similar to what the United States experienced in the 1980s and early 1990s.
2. Many gun control measures are not likely to be helpful.
Over 90 percent of public mass shootings take place in “gun-free zones” where civilians are not permitted to carry firearms.
A complete ban on “assault weapons” will save very few lives: Six out of every 10 mass public shootings are carried out by handguns alone, while only one in 10 is committed with a rifle alone.
The average age of mass public shooters is 34, which means that increasing the minimum age for purchasing firearms would not target the main perpetrators of mass public shootings.
Few mass public shooters have used “high-capacity magazines,” and there is no evidence that the lethality of their attacks would have been affected by delays of two to four seconds to switch magazines. In fact, some of the largest mass shootings in U.S. history were carried out with “low-capacity” weapons:
The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 and injured 17 with two handguns, one of which had a 10-round magazine and the other a 15-round magazine. He simply brought 19 extra magazines.
Twenty-three people were killed and another 20 injured in a Killeen, Texas, cafeteria by a man with two 9mm handguns, capable of maximums of 15-round and 17-round magazines, respectively.
A mentally disturbed man armed with two handguns and a shotgun shot and killed 21 people in a San Ysidro McDonald’s and injured another 19. The handguns utilized 13-round and 20-round magazines, and the shotgun had a five-round capacity.
3. Public mass shooters typically have histories of mental health issues.
According to one study, 60 percent of mass public shooters had been diagnosed with a mental disorder or had demonstrated signs of serious mental illness prior to the attack.
A large body of research shows a statistical link between mass public killings and serious untreated psychiatric illness. The most commonly diagnosed illnesses among mass public shooters are paranoid schizophrenia and severe depression.
It is important to remember that the vast majority of people with mental disorders do not engage in violent behaviors, and there is no empirical means of effectively identifying potential mass murderers.
4. The United States does not have an extraordinary problem with mass public shootings compared to other developed countries.
After adjusting for population differences, many other developed countries have worse problems with mass public shootings than the United States has.
There were 27 percent more casualties per capita from mass public shootings in the European Union than in the U.S. from 2009 to 2015.
5. Mass killers often find ways to kill even without firearms.
Some of the worst mass killings in the United States have occurred without firearms:
Before the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting, the deadliest attack on the LGBT community in America occurred in 1973 when an arsonist killed 32 and injured 15 at the Upstairs Lounge in New Orleans.
In 1987, a disgruntled former airline employee killed 43 people after he hijacked and intentionally crashed a passenger plane.
In 1990, an angry ex-lover burned down the Happy Land social club where his former girlfriend worked, killing 87 others in the process.
In 1995, 168 people were killed and more than 600 were injured by a truck bomb parked outside the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
In 2017, a man in New York City killed eight and injured 11 by renting a truck and plowing down pedestrians on a Manhattan bike path.
In other countries, bombings, mass stabbings, and car attacks frequently kill more people than even the deadliest mass shootings in the United States. Consider the following:
Spain (2004) — Bombing: 192 deaths, 2,050 injuries;
Great Britain (2005) — Bombing: 52 deaths, 784 injuries;
Japan (2008) — Car ramming and stabbing: seven deaths, 10 injuries;
China (2010) — Shovel-loader: 11 deaths, 30 injuries;
China (2014) — Car ramming: six deaths, 13 injuries;
China (2014) — Mass stabbing: 31 deaths, 143 injuries;
Germany (2015) — Plane crash: 150 deaths;
Belgium (2016) — Bombing: 21 deaths, 180 injuries;
France (2016) — Car ramming: 86 deaths, 434 injuries;
Germany (2016) — Car ramming: 11 deaths, 56 injuries;
Japan (2016) — Mass stabbing: 19 deaths, 45 injuries; and
Great Britain (2017) — Bombing: 22 deaths, 250 injuries.
6. Australia did not “eliminate mass public shootings” by banning assault weapons.
*Australia did not “eliminate mass public shootings” by banning assault weapons. Mass shootings in the country were rare before the 1996 National Firearms Act, and multiple-casualty shootings still occur.
*Before 1996, firearms crimes in Australia rarely involved firearms prohibited under the National Firearms Act, suggesting that any change in firearm-related crimes or deaths was not due to the law.
*Further, Australia did not see a reduction in “mass murders.” In the years immediately following enactment of the National Firearms Act, the country experienced six mass murders in which five or more people were killed—they just were not
killed with guns.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/03/...mass-killings/
Lol dailysignal.com
I'm serious. Put your money where your mouth is. Start an insurance company, and offer liability discounts for school systems that have teacher guns.
See how long you stay in business. Your delusions about guns will be highly amusing the to the officials charge with liquidating your company.
This is as close as you'll ever come to making a pertinent point.I'm serious. Put your money where your mouth is. Start an insurance company, and offer liability discounts for school systems that have teacher guns.
See how long you stay in business. Your delusions about guns will be highly amusing the to the officials charge with liquidating your company.
What I Saw Treating the Victims From Parkland Should Change the Debate on Guns
" was looking at a CT scan of one of the mass-shooting victims from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who had been brought to the trauma center during my call shift. The organ looked like an overripe melon smashed by a sledgehammer, and was bleeding extensively.
One of the trauma surgeons opened a young victim in the operating room, and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit by a bullet from an AR-15, a semiautomatic rifle that delivers a devastatingly lethal, high-velocity bullet to the victim. Nothing was left to repair—and utterly, devastatingly, nothing could be done to fix the problem. The injury was fatal."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...n-guns/553937/
Gun Laws Stopped Mass Shootings in Australia: New Research6. Australia did not “eliminate mass public shootings” by banning assault weapons.
*Australia did not “eliminate mass public shootings” by banning assault weapons. Mass shootings in the country were rare before the 1996 National Firearms Act, and multiple-casualty shootings still occur.
*Before 1996, firearms crimes in Australia rarely involved firearms prohibited under the National Firearms Act, suggesting that any change in firearm-related crimes or deaths was not due to the law.
*Further, Australia did not see a reduction in “mass murders.” In the years immediately following enactment of the National Firearms Act, the country experienced six mass murders in which five or more people were killed—they just were not
killed with guns.
Tue, 03/13/2018
by American College of Physicians
The odds of a 22-year absence of mass shootings in Australia since 1996 gun reforms being due to chance are one in 200,000, new research reveals.
Published today in the Annals of Internal Medicine, scholars at the University of Sydney and Macquarie University used mathematical techniques to test the null hypothesis that the rate of mass shootings in Australia before and after the 1996 law reforms is unchanged.
The National Firearms Agreement, enacted after the Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania in which 35 died and another 23 were seriously injured, saw the destruction of more than a million firearms--perhaps a third of the country's private gun stock.
The Agreement included uniform gun registration, repudiation of self-defense as a legitimate reason to hold a firearm license, mandatory locked storage, a ban on mail order sales and standardized penalties, and the banning of semi-automatic rifles and pump action shot guns from civilian ownership.
Its provisions were subsequently enacted in national, state and territory legislation across Australia.
In the 18 years up to and including the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, there were 13-gun homicides in which five or more people died, not including the perpetrator. In the 22 years since, there have been no such incidents.
https://www.forensicmag.com/news/201...a-new-research
Do you have to fall in line on everything? Are you really that much of a weasel, that you can't think for yourself on anything?
I like how the "new" research conveniently sets the bar at 5 or more people in order to eliminate a few events and then removed any events that were familicide to get those results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Australia
Thank you.
more guns
Feinstein seems to think the bump fire stock ban Trump's saying he'll issue won't hold up in court. I wonder if it's by design so Trump can claim he tried to do something but congress wouldn't act to make the ban something that would hold up.
Stats make my head hurt :-( DRUMPF!!!
Hogg thinks he's quite the rock star
Broward County public schools superintendent Robert Runcie announced this week his district was implementing a “solution” to thwart future gun violence. He said that following students’ spring break, only clear backpacks would be permitted at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
David Hogg, the outspoken MSD student who has spent more than a month advocating for stricter gun control laws, believes the move infringes on students’ cons utional rights.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...nal-rights/amp
Hogg thinks he's quite the rock star
Chris thinks he's a Black Panther.
No that's you and your ilk. Sorry but you can't disown them, and you can't disown Hillary either. tee hee
Average number of deaths in the U.S. per day:
Abortions: 1,778+
Medical errors: 685
Accidents: 401
Opioids: 115
Drunk driving: 28
Underage drinking: 11
Teenage texting-while-driving: 8
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