Gun Control

[RandomGuy]

His logic is as true then as it is today.

What exactly did the founding fathers mean by a well regulated militia?

The Second Amendment Doesn’t Say What You Think It Does
Michael Waldman debunks claims that the Cons ution protects an unlimited right to guns.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...chael-waldman/

[boutons_deux]

What exactly did the founding fathers mean by a well regulated militia?

The Second Amendment Doesn’t Say What You Think It Does
Michael Waldman debunks claims that the Cons ution protects an unlimited right to guns.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...chael-waldman/

the oligarchy's extreme activist, anti-originalist (when it suits their politics) SCOTUS 5 broke, in er v Wash DC, the link between right to arms and militia.

The broken link is now "settled (Cons utional) law"

So it doesn't really matter anymore the what and why of the "originalist" meaning of militia as slave-suppressing/-hunting groups in the slave states.

Slavery and country-wide pervasive racism toward slavery's descendants has fatally ed up America, and is exploited by oligarchy/Repugs to keep America ed up.

[Blake]

equating essential liberty with muh guns

[DMC]

Right, and we can't do that because then the Government knows who owns firearms and that will make it easier for them to come and get them. Am I close, or is that another strawman?

It would nullify the FOPA.

Its not in the poll.

This has always been the hurdle to reach universal background checks.

[DMC]

equating essential liberty with muh guns

The framers did.

[koriwhat]

just like You People (suckered by BigGun/NRA) PERVERT the 2nd Amendment, you pervert BF to your own gun-fellating sickness

scared of guns huh? learn to shoot!

[DMC]

What exactly did the founding fathers mean by a well regulated militia?

The Second Amendment Doesn’t Say What You Think It Does
Michael Waldman debunks claims that the Cons ution protects an unlimited right to guns.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...chael-waldman/

USSC case law already established that. Welcome to the present.

[DMC]

I wish people would stop quoting boots, he is ignored for a reason.

[DMC]

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

[DMC]

If you want to repeal FOPA, it contains the ban on non registered fully automatic weapons and the manufacture of same for sale to public.

[boutons_deux]

Hate groups putting people in the government positions based on the joyous imagery of killing fellow Americans is not very common.

The USA has been in a major war on average every 20 years for 200+ years.

USA has 100s of known military installation across the planet, plus Seal teams, etc murdering people everywhere.

Murder rate in USA exceeds by far every other industrial country.

Murder is American as pathogenic fast so-called food-like substances

[Th'Pusher]

If you want to repeal FOPA, it contains the ban on non registered fully automatic weapons and the manufacture of same for sale to public.

There’s actually a process for amending existing law. That would allow you to keep the ban on non registered fully automatic weapons while eliminating the parts in the law that are preventing universal background checks from being implemented.

[Blake]

The framers did.

"He [Franklin] was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it....."

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/39024...n-21st-century

[Blake]

scared of guns huh? learn to shoot!

Kw logic

[RandomGuy]

scared of guns huh? learn to shoot!

What is a well regulated militia?

[RandomGuy]

USSC case law already established that. Welcome to the present.

You don't seem to be answering the question.

What is a well regulated militia?

[RandomGuy]

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

"when you actually go back and look at the debate that went into drafting of the amendment, you can squint and look really hard, but there’s simply no evidence of it being about individual gun ownership for self-protection or for hunting. Emphatically, the focus was on the militias. To the framers, that phrase “a well-regulated militia” was really critical."

[KenMcCoy]

You don't seem to be answering the question.

What is a well regulated militia?

It is the citizens Civic duty to control the government...by use of force (right to bear arms) if necessary.

That is the purpose and meaning of the 2A.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/39024...n-21st-century

please be merciful of these ignorant s, stupified into drooling, knuck-dragging, pot-belly-ed ignorance by guns and/or religion

[RandomGuy]

It is the citizens Civic duty to control the government...by use of force (right to bear arms) if necessary.

That is the purpose and meaning of the 2A.

No, it was meant to provide for common defense in case of invasion, because our standing army was weak.

What is a well regulated militia?

[boutons_deux]

No, it was meant to provide for common defense in case of invasion, because our standing army was weak.

What is a well regulated militia?

wrong

it was a enticement for the slave states, needing their ratification of the Cons ution, that those states could maintain the arming of their slave-hunting/slave-oppressing "militias".

[RandomGuy]

Seems to me like these protests are the answer to all those thoughts and prayers for the victims.

God has picked them as the answer.

[RandomGuy]

wrong

it was a enticement for the slave states, needing their ratification of the Cons ution, that those states could maintain the arming of their slave-hunting/slave-oppressing "militias".

There was also that aspect, true.

[KenMcCoy]

What is a well regulated militia?

A properly operating body of citizen soldiers.

[KenMcCoy]

What democracies have lasted for more than 225 years where the citizens don't have the right to bear arms/form militias?