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    At least with alcohol we can say we tried and it didn't work out, tbh...
    Yes, but to turn the tables, how many innocent persons that could have protected themselves with a gun will die at the hands of a criminal because the government took away their guns to "do something" about mass shootings, which have been in decline for the last several years?

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    There was much debate about the meaning of militia in the part you conveniently don't quote in the Federalist and such ie where Madison etc would argue and explain the cons ution and bill of rights.

    I know you think it is cut and dry because you are parroting NRA propaganda but it isn't. The whole check on tyranny that you buffoons like to wave your hands at was discussed in the ability of static armed militias to counter tyrants. It wasn't Red Dawn they were thinking. Nevermind they loathed the idea of a standing national army and how modern day conservatives are clueless towards intent.

    That is why they included the well regulated language because the intent was not a free for all.

    Then of course there is the idea of competing rights. The right to bear arms is enumerated but so is the right to life and the obligation of the state to maintain security. It's all in the cons ution. Personally I think they need to close the corporate loophole and put semiautos with the tanks, autos, grenades and rocket launchers.

    If you cannot protect your family with a pump action shotgun or a revolver then you have no business with any weapon at all and should jsut call po-po.
    Yep, the Po Po will be there in time to recover your corpse and start an investigation with small chance of finding the person who killed you.

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    Yep, the Po Po will be there in time to recover your corpse and start an investigation with small chance of finding the person who killed you.
    if there was a home invasion pretty sure a shotgun or handgun will be sufficient ..
    you gonna stand at the top of the stairs and try to pick them off from range? try and funnell them in to your line of sight?

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    Just search New Hampshire demographics and you'll the key contributing factor to that.

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    There was much debate about the meaning of militia in the part you conveniently don't quote in the Federalist and such ie where Madison etc would argue and explain the cons ution and bill of rights.

    I know you think it is cut and dry because you are parroting NRA propaganda but it isn't. The whole check on tyranny that you buffoons like to wave your hands at was discussed in the ability of static armed militias to counter tyrants. It wasn't Red Dawn they were thinking. Nevermind they loathed the idea of a standing national army and how modern day conservatives are clueless towards intent.

    That is why they included the well regulated language because the intent was not a free for all.

    Then of course there is the idea of competing rights. The right to bear arms is enumerated but so is the right to life and the obligation of the state to maintain security. It's all in the cons ution. Personally I think they need to close the corporate loophole and put semiautos with the tanks, autos, grenades and rocket launchers.

    If you cannot protect your family with a pump action shotgun or a revolver then you have no business with any weapon at all and should jsut call po-po.
    All semi autos? So you even want .22 gone. Wouldn't a revolver technically be a semi auto ?

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    There was much debate about the meaning of militia in the part you conveniently don't quote in the Federalist and such ie where Madison etc would argue and explain the cons ution and bill of rights.

    I know you think it is cut and dry because you are parroting NRA propaganda but it isn't. The whole check on tyranny that you buffoons like to wave your hands at was discussed in the ability of static armed militias to counter tyrants. It wasn't Red Dawn they were thinking. Nevermind they loathed the idea of a standing national army and how modern day conservatives are clueless towards intent.

    That is why they included the well regulated language because the intent was not a free for all.

    Then of course there is the idea of competing rights. The right to bear arms is enumerated but so is the right to life and the obligation of the state to maintain security. It's all in the cons ution. Personally I think they need to close the corporate loophole and put semiautos with the tanks, autos, grenades and rocket launchers.

    If you cannot protect your family with a pump action shotgun or a revolver then you have no business with any weapon at all and should jsut call po-po.


    Crazy people will then just kill people with revolvers and pumps....

    Cool story bro

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    Your lack of understanding of our history and what the Cons ution means to our representative republic is appalling. The Cons ution is the highest and most powerful do ent in our country. You act like it is toilet paper written by fossils.


    This is just a throwaway emotional rant like whining about tide pods. I know what the cons ution is. You confused it with the Declaration of Independence and started getting religious about it. All of these rights are given by the founding fathers.

    Even with cons utional rights, they have always, always been subject to limitation and regulation.

    I will never understand the left's fetish with banning guns, I own several and am highly trained and skilled in using them and may save your ass one day. And how ironic that abortion kills many many multiples more of children every year but I dont see a March for Life to stop abortion. Leftist are hypocrites and the worst kind, the self righteous ones that will try and bully you with "think of the children" arguments and simultaneously ignore the fact that they support baby killing. But hey you dont see me belly aching about repealing your Cons utional rights to abortion (that doesnt exist). Imagine the outcry. Go read a history book please.
    You are bellyaching about a right to abortion that you say doesn’t exist while saying you don’t bellyache about abortion. Not to mention that bringing up abortion is a total red herring in a conversation about gun control.

    The fetish with gun control (not banning all guns or confiscating all guns. You can keep saying that, but doesn’t make it true) comes from the realization that committing murder and more specifically, mass murder, is maddeningly easy in this country compared to any other western industrialized country which is why we have more of these incidents than any other western industrialized country.

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    Again, I'll never own an AR-15, but you are in favor of banning all AR-15s in hopes that it might stop one incident and that is good enough to pass a law. First, if you ban AR-15s, that doesn't mean that the minority of people that would commit violent crimes with them can't get their hands on it and even if it is hypothetically more difficult, we don't know how difficult. Drugs are illegal and they aren't that hard to get. Also, when you start passing laws because it might save one life, then you go down a slippery slope. There are lots of things that could be banned if it could just save one life. Yet you wouldn't ban swimming pools or certain types of cars or any number of things that take more lives (intentionally and accidentally) than guns.

    I'm not a gun advocate and I'll never own a gun, but I just think its bad public policy to ban something that has little to no impact just for the sake of saying you are "doing something." I favor any reasonable gun control that will be effective for stopping gun violence. If banning AR-15s meant no more mass murders, then I'd be all for it. But the problem is that banning AR-15s won't stop them from being accessible on the black market and there will always be other weapons that take the place of the AR-15s.

    And even if AR-15s stopped the mass gun violence, you would move the markers. Let's say there is gun violence where someone shoots 3 people on campus instead of 15. Aren't those three lives just as important as the 15. So how do we stop those three people from being shot? What guns can we ban to stop that?
    I think the conversation specific to assault weapon regulation is designed to accomplish exactly the scenario you described. To mitigate damage. We can’t legislate away murder. Evil intent will always be there. But why make weapons of mass destruction so easily available to anybody who can snap at a moments notice and pull a Vegas.

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    Have teachers that pass concealed carry permits be allowed to carry in schools
    They can stop the mass shootings

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    This is just a throwaway emotional rant like whining about tide pods. I know what the cons ution is. You confused it with the Declaration of Independence and started getting religious about it. All of these rights are given by the founding fathers.

    Even with cons utional rights, they have always, always been subject to limitation and regulation.


    You are bellyaching about a right to abortion that you say doesn’t exist while saying you don’t bellyache about abortion. Not to mention that bringing up abortion is a total red herring in a conversation about gun control.

    The fetish with gun control (not banning all guns or confiscating all guns. You can keep saying that, but doesn’t make it true) comes from the realization that committing murder and more specifically, mass murder, is maddeningly easy in this country compared to any other western industrialized country which is why we have more of these incidents than any other western industrialized country.
    We also have the most freedom of any country in the world and actually have free speech. Look at England, take the guns and people will be jailed over facebook posts. Try to think past the nose on your face. There are serious consequences to confiscating all guns.

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    Have teachers that pass concealed carry permits be allowed to carry in schools
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    I think the conversation specific to assault weapon regulation is designed to accomplish exactly the scenario you described. To mitigate damage. We can’t legislate away murder. Evil intent will always be there. But why make weapons of mass destruction so easily available to anybody who can snap at a moments notice and pull a Vegas.
    It is a micro percentage of a micro percentage, that is why and you dont make laws because of a couple of loons that punish law abiding citizens.

    Lol, in the future people will be 3D printing guns and you are worried about stupid like "weapons of mass destruction" (what the , do you think a semi auto rifle is a weapon of mass destruction?), get a grip. Do you know what "mass destruction" means lol

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    Yes, but to turn the tables, how many innocent persons that could have protected themselves with a gun will die at the hands of a criminal because the government took away their guns to "do something" about mass shootings, which have been in decline for the last several years?
    zero? regulating is not outright banning.

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    March for our lives should be a march against bullying not against your right own guns. Damn shame that root issue isn't being focused on.

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    The end result of getting mercilessly bullied for over half a decade isn't pretty. Who would've thought?

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    It is a micro percentage of a micro percentage, that is why and you dont make laws because of a couple of loons that punish law abiding citizens.

    Lol, in the future people will be 3D printing guns and you are worried about stupid like "weapons of mass destruction" (what the , do you think a semi auto rifle is a weapon of mass destruction?), get a grip. Do you know what "mass destruction" means lol
    Wasn’t referring to it in the GWB sense. It’s a capability to produce carnage on an unnecessary scale

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    We also have the most freedom of any country in the world and actually have free speech. Look at England, take the guns and people will be jailed over facebook posts. Try to think past the nose on your face. There are serious consequences to confiscating all guns.
    That’s an insane leap.

    If the British had guns their speech laws would be magically different? Would citizens be holding parliament at gunpoint? ... this is an absurd point

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    He said the policies proposed were ineffective. Why would respond as if it's absurd that they didn't support them?
    So they support no proposed gun regulations and propose none of their own.

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    Again, it is the second amendment and if you knew history, the 2nd amendment was regarded as one of the most vital to viability of our country by the Founders. Additionally, you are correct, amendments have been made, but again it would take a 75% vote by the states to repeal it. I wish you luck on that journey should you decide to take it because it will be the death of the liberal party. There will not be 75% agreement on that issue in my lifetime.

    What did that stupid outdated fossil George Washington say "“A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. Which would include their own government.”
    Long-term thinker that George Washington. Glad he set the precedent for two terms as well tbh.

    On the other hand did he factor in the death of 17 kids? Surely that would change the equation drastically.
    fake quote

    Your side always ends up lying. It's inevitable.

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    So they support no proposed gun regulations and propose none of their own.
    Good news is, 2nd amendments keeps us from having to accept a bunch of regulations your side proposes without overwhelming support of the populace, which you dont have. The Democrat party is at its weakest point in decades, maybe its because you overreach and try to limit our freedoms and God given rights as Americans, maybe you should try a new strategy. Communism and gun grabbing isnt working too well for you.

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    Good news is, 2nd amendments keeps us from having to accept a bunch of regulations your side proposes without overwhelming support of the populace, which you dont have. The Democrat party is at its weakest point in decades, maybe its because you overreach and try to limit our freedoms and God given rights as Americans, maybe you should try a new strategy. Communism and gun grabbing isnt working too well for you.
    Making straw men and posting fake quotes isn't working well for you here tbh.

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    fake quote

    Your side always ends up lying. It's inevitable.
    George was really thinking that, even if he really didn't say it, tbh

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    fake quote

    Your side always ends up lying. It's inevitable.
    You are correct it's a fake quote.

    I never saw that quote before that dude posted it. I didn't need that quote prior to seeing it to come to my conclusion therefore it being fake changes nothing. I didn't need to lie. It was simply a mistake. "My side" As opposed to your side that includes suicide statistics to magnify and mislead? Meanwhile, I simple saw a quote that's insignificant to my position and liked it. Which you then proceeded to make a bigger deal than necessary to muddy the waters.

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