When you see it... you will flip.

[Blake]

Very relevant for making the point that the Trump party is overwhelmingly white, with all that entails. Feel free to say why the fact that the Trump white house has pretty much exclusively hired one color over all others isn't relevant.

You asked here right off the bat for someone else to disprove your claim of your op being relevant.

You failed to describe what "all that entails" means and instead told everyone else that they need to use critical thinking skills.

You never showed what the appropriate number of minorities should be, assuming that there is one. .....which I'm not sure there is.

Way too many variables in an op that's ultimately not a big deal because there's >0 black guys that are there.

[DarrinS]

All workplaces should look like a perfect pie chart of US demographics.

Except sports.

[Chris]

Kind of like posters here that like to go straight to the ad hominem instead of respond to points being made

You add nothing to the conversation but you negative cynicism. Poor fella.

[SnakeBoy]

I will refrain from answering it for now. I prefer not affecting others' answers one way or another.

In other words your going to continue to pretend there is some profound meaning to yet another stupid thread you've started.

[SnakeBoy]

There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.

This has been conventional thinking for a decade or more and yet during that time the GOP has managed to find itself with the most power they've had in a century.

[Blake]

You add nothing to the conversation but you negative cynicism. Poor fella.

When you lie, butcher facts and resort to pimping Chuck Woolery, there's not much to discuss.

[KenMcCoy]

As a Democrat, I think a "toothless GOP" is a bad thing. Healthy democracy requires more than one effective party, in my opinion. I would agree that there needs to be a shift in moderation for the GOP.

I finally agree with you on something. A strong conservative party (or opposition party) is essential for a proper democracy. It's why so many installed democracies eventually fail.

Any ideas as to how to do that?

I think you're already seeing a shift to moderation with Trump. He's definitely not a true conservative. He spends big (not conservative) and I don't believe that he is a hard line pro-life/anti-gay conservative. There are a few things I think that, apart from Trump, will help make a more moderate GOP:

1) The decline of the Evangelical base, down to 17% in 2016, will create less pandering to this portion of the population (abortion/marriage).
2) The growth of the Hispanic population and their increased socio-economic status
a) Hispanic households with income over $50K increased to 48% in 2014 from 33% in 2000. (http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insight...in-the-us.html)
b) As people, race not considered, make more money they become more conservative. (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-...b_7153396.html)
3) Historically low African-American unemployment numbers, thanks to Obama, which will also increase the wealth and conservatism of African-Americans. (See above)

[Nathan89]

There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.

The left going off the deep end is starting to push people away.

[KenMcCoy]

^^ That too!

[Blake]

The left going off the deep end is starting to push people away.

Or really Trump going off the deep end is starting to push people away from the right

[Chris]

Or really Trump going off the deep end is starting to push people away from the right

Yeah that's why they elected him and he's at 50% in recent polls. Dumb ass.

[Blake]

Yeah that's why they elected him and he's at 50% in recent polls. Dumb ass.

"April 05, 2018 - 08:29 AM EDTPoll: Trump approval drops to record low"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...d-low-in-march


Poor Chris

[KenMcCoy]

Yaay! 51%

All these polls are horrible. Who answers their phone nowadays?

Every point counts! Trump tweets out a poll which shows he now has a 51 per cent approval rating... his best in a year

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz5Bpf1utpY
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[Blake]

Yaay! 51%

All these polls are horrible.

Right because throwaway anecdotes about the Left pushing people away are much better

[rmt]

I finally agree with you on something. A strong conservative party (or opposition party) is essential for a proper democracy. It's why so many installed democracies eventually fail.



I think you're already seeing a shift to moderation with Trump. He's definitely not a true conservative. He spends big (not conservative) and I don't believe that he is a hard line pro-life/anti-gay conservative. There are a few things I think that, apart from Trump, will help make a more moderate GOP:

1) The decline of the Evangelical base, down to 17% in 2016, will create less pandering to this portion of the population (abortion/marriage).
2) The growth of the Hispanic population and their increased socio-economic status
a) Hispanic households with income over $50K increased to 48% in 2014 from 33% in 2000. (http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insight...in-the-us.html)
b) As people, race not considered, make more money they become more conservative. (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-...b_7153396.html)
3) Historically low African-American unemployment numbers, thanks to Obama, which will also increase the wealth and conservatism of African-Americans. (See above)

2b. Because they don't want their money re-distributed and given to whoever is the flavor of the month with the liberals.
3. Surely you jest - whatever did Obama do to get credit for that.

[Gummi Clutch]

I see about 92 people with the women represented well. I see one for sure (probably 2) 'african americans' which represent close to 14% of the population represented proportionately. I never would have looked for those things unless you pointed them out. Proof that the Left will create imaginary enemies when they are losing badly.

Your trailer trash math coming through

[Chris]

why are the mods deleting my threads

Dummi Clutch

[Expert]

It isn't a test, it is an invitation for you to think and discuss something.

It would seem to me that you can know what the lack of diversity means, even when there was never significant diversity to begin with, which I am not sure is the case.

How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with"?

What does the lack of diversity mean in this photo?

"But, we're taking the best of the best only, no diversity quotas!"

[Nathan89]

Relevant video for anyone thinking shooting for equality of outcome is a wise goal.

[Nathan89]

Watch it all or go to 8:20

Another lesson for "equality of outcome" goal setters at 8:20.

[Aztecfan03]

"at most"

On what do you base the determination of this percentage as an upper bound?

Since I am pretty sure there at least 10 minorites

[RandomGuy]

It isn't a test, it is an invitation for you to think and discuss something.

It would seem to me that you can know what the lack of diversity means, even when there was never significant diversity to begin with, which I am not sure is the case.

How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with [at the white house internship program"?

What does the lack of diversity mean in this photo?

"But, we're taking the best of the best only, no diversity quotas!"

Those aren't white house interns. Your question is a rather transparent attempt to dodge a fairly asked question. If you won't extend the good faith and honesty to me to meaningfully attempt to answer my original question, I will not answer yours. Quid pro quo. The only thing you have accomplished is making yourself seem evasive.

Do you think that changing the subject, and ignoring a fair question is indicative of a strong argument?

How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with [at the white house internship program]"?

[RandomGuy]

You asked here right off the bat for someone else to disprove your claim of your op being relevant.

You failed to describe what "all that entails" means and instead told everyone else that they need to use critical thinking skills.

You never showed what the appropriate number of minorities should be, assuming that there is one. .....which I'm not sure there is.

Way too many variables in an op that's ultimately not a big deal because there's >0 black guys that are there.

How exactly is my post condescending?

The white house internship program is relevant because it reflects the priorities of the executive branch, and by extension the party of that president. It is further relevant because it is an opportunity to train the next generation in government.

Not fully detailing what "all that entails" means isn't a failure, simply because you say it is. I reject that out of hand. It means exactly what I meant, and was simply a shorthand. If you want it elucidated, I guess I can, but would simply ask you as well, what you think it means.

My point, and my questions don't hinge on any specific "appropriate number of minorities" is. On that we can agree. I would go so far as to say that any administration that is almost exclusively white is a problem.

As for "not a big deal", I would disagree for the relevant reasons above, as well as the others outlined here.

[RandomGuy]

All workplaces should look like a perfect pie chart of US demographics.

Except sports.

This is a strawman argument, essentially a lie.

Why did you lie Darrin? Do you think your position is so weak that it requires lying?

[RandomGuy]

The left going off the deep end is starting to push people away.

Progressive policies are overwhelmingly favored by moderates of no party affiliation.

Quick example, out of many polls showing this:
http://inthesetimes.com/article/1981...ilent-majority

Provably wrong, and easily so.

Or alternately:

I call bull . Prove your statement to any reasonable degree.