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    i still dont get why... he doesnt wanna play for Pop? they pushed him too hard? i cant imagine kawhi having an opinion on anything beyond what he wants for breakfast that morning. he says nothing. we know so little about him.

    someone must be in his ear. what other logical reason is there. this is embarrassing

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    The players seem to always get their way in these situations. I still have no idea why that idiot Gilbert traded away Kyrie when Kyrie had no leverage with 2 years to go? I would make Leonard play it out next year. He wants that big money deal, and he has no choice. But if he is that unhappy they probably let him go. To me whatever deal they get will be a bad one, since he destroyed his value this season. Soft, quitter, head case, etc.
    They need to trade him before the rumors about "kawhi will only sign extensions with the following teams..." Comes out. Once that happens the s
    Spurs lose all leverage in a trade

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    There will be a team willing to roll the dice for the chance that he'll extend there. Even with his baggage he's a talent than PG.
    Also, don't forget that Kawhi's on a "bargain" one-year contract next year (if he can regain his form). That's true even if you don't resign him.

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    Ah, the PR storm.

    Kawhi camp with this, Spurs camp throwing shade on “his group”, and the outside agitators in BOS amen LAC trying to drive the wedge

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    i still dont get why... he doesnt wanna play for Pop? they pushed him too hard? i cant imagine kawhi having an opinion on anything beyond what he wants for breakfast that morning. he says nothing. we know so little about him.

    someone must be in his ear. what other logical reason is there. this is embarrassing
    Greedy uncle knows he'll make more endorsement money in a major market and he wants more money. Players can make more in endorsements than in salary.

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    Yeah, I would guess even Tatum would be off the table.

    Think Jaylen Brown + Kings pick is the best they could get, and even then Boston would have to be completely convinced that he is (a) resigning and (b) he will hold up health-wise (good luck with that since nothing is coming up in the scan and yet this dude continues to complain of pain) ..


    I know imagine a year ago when Spurs fan refused to trade him for Lebron ..
    PATFO waited so long and let this thing fester, now we can only sell for pennies on the dollar. Like LMA attempt last summer. So the best move is probably just to hold onto him for one more year.

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    Greedy uncle knows he'll make more endorsement money in a major market and he wants more money. Players can make more in endorsements than in salary.
    i mean i guess. he's not shaq. he has no personality. he's a ty spokesman. the damn heb commercials had to make him look like a slow adult to get some laughs

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    i mean i guess. he's not shaq. he has no personality. he's a ty spokesman. the damn heb commercials had to make him look like a slow adult to get some laughs
    He doesn't have to. Look at that Nike commercial about if Kawhi is better on offense our defense. That was one of his best commercials and he didn't even appear in it.

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    Either The Spurs have some of the worst doctors in the United States. Or he is totally full of ..

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    what if kawhi is just depressed and doesnt feel like playing. he always seemed to carry around this intense sadness.

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    Also, don't forget that Kawhi's on a "bargain" one-year contract next year (if he can regain his form). That's true even if you don't resign him.
    This

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    Greedy uncle knows he'll make more endorsement money in a major market and he wants more money. Players can make more in endorsements than in salary.
    He may be a California local boy, but his personality is perfectly suited for the small market. Lakers are a circus, and the media, fans will run you out of town if you dare pull this Quiet man Bull on that team.. Does not play with them..

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    He may be a California local boy, but his personality is perfectly suited for the small market. Lakers are a circus, and the media fans will run you out of town if you dare pull this Quite man Bull on that team.. Does not play with them..
    He wasn't even in his best commercial. They can hide his lack of personality

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    i still dont get why... he doesnt wanna play for Pop? they pushed him too hard? i cant imagine kawhi having an opinion on anything beyond what he wants for breakfast that morning. he says nothing. we know so little about him.

    someone must be in his ear. what other logical reason is there. this is embarrassing
    I know it's a crazy idea, but I think your "group" may not be satisfied with the roster, maybe they feel like he's wasting time on SA, of course we'll know something real in the next three months

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    I am in no way defending Kawhi. I’ve said before if he’s hurt, he’s hurt, but he should still be with the team and on the bench, not being a in hiding. With that said...

    Pop constantly acting like a to media and reporters does not give him a good look either.

    It’s like going through a divorce, and your wife cheated on you and she is completely at fault, but you have to explain why you been fired from 3 jobs for arguing and disagreements with your boss. It’s not directly related but it’s something there.

    Not an exact comparison but you get the idea.

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    The odds of signing him in free agency is one in twenty-nine.....
    Are you suggesting the Suns and Grizzlies have the same odds of landing Leonard as the Celts or Clipps?

    No team is going to offer the Spurs their best young prospects/draft picks for a one year rental.

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    I am in no way defending Kawhi. I’ve said before if he’s hurt, he’s hurt, but he should still be with the team and on the bench, not being a in hiding. With that said...

    Pop constantly acting like a to media and reporters does not give him a good look either.

    It’s like going through a divorce, and your wife cheated on you and she is completely at fault, but you have to explain why you been fired from 3 jobs for arguing and disagreements with your boss. It’s not directly related but it’s something there.

    Not an exact comparison but you get the idea.
    I am not clear how he could be hurt when he has not played ball all year long? He was hurt after a summer of rest apparently. Maybe pro basketball is not his thing. He should take up Water Polo.. Something easy on the legs..

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    I am not clear how he could be hurt when he has not played ball all year long? He was hurt after a summer of rest apparently. Maybe pro basketball is not his thing. He should take up Water Polo.. Something easy on the legs..
    I agree. I’ve even said if he’s so awkward socially and any confrontation scares him enough to go into hiding, then he’s in the wrong profession. Not joking either.

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    Pop didn't turn on Kawhi until this situation was going on for months. He had his back long enough.

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    Are you suggesting the Suns and Grizzlies have the same odds of landing Leonard as the Celts or Clipps?

    No team is going to offer the Spurs their best young prospects/draft picks for a one year rental.
    Agree to disagree. Time will tell which one of us is right. A team will be willing to give up a young prospect and a good draft pick if they get him for the year and they believe it will increase their chances to resign him. Not all teams have the same chance but a lot of contenders will roll the dice and make an offer of they believe having him even for a year will put them over the hump.

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    PATFO waited so long and let this thing fester, now we can only sell for pennies on the dollar. Like LMA attempt last summer. So the best move is probably just to hold onto him for one more year.
    They had no choice once the trade deadline came and went. And who knew it was coming to this at that time?

    Evidently nobody, even Spurs brass or players, knew it would deteriorate to this point.

    So, not to be a , but your point about ty returns is without merit.

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    I am not clear how he could be hurt when he has not played ball all year long? He was hurt after a summer of rest apparently. Maybe pro basketball is not his thing. He should take up Water Polo.. Something easy on the legs..
    This point is almost always overlooked. Kudos for bringing it up. I ing hate the narrative that the Spurs or Spurs doctors caused this injury.

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    I still don't think Boston wants to may horford, kyrie, Kawhi, and Hayward. That will be 3 max contracts plus a $27M guy. If they come after Kawhi they are going to want to move horford or Hayward, either to us or in a separate deal.
    This seems right, and it feels like it would be Hortford they’d want to move. If they want the Spurs to be the team to take on his long term money it’ll definitely cost them more.

    Pau+Leonard for
    Tatum + Brown + Hartford contract + Kings Pick works

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    Goddamit man this whole situation sucks! We're about to lose a top 3 player because.... why?
    sad day for spurfan... there is really nothing to celebrate in this tbh.
    Perhaps spurfan needs to start looking at the long road ahead which involves a rebuild.

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