Scottie Pippen takes shots at Kawhi

[RD2191]

Even when Kawhi was at the games, you heard of things about him being totally disengaged. Whether that was at practice, team meetings, etc..

I didn't know you were so into gossip

[DPG21920]

Jabari Young said his doctors didn't cleared him in this trip. And Pop knows it.

Not being cleared is not the same as ‘out for good”. Kawhi, unless he flat out lied to the media/fans, said he was “close” to the point where the most credible reporter in all of sports (Woj) said Kawhi was expected back by mid-March.

So since that did not happen, and it’s not on Pop and Kawhi left the team and is with his own medical team, unless they reported a major setback (which nothing has come out on that from Kawhi or the Spurs) then it’s on them.

[DPG21920]

I didn't know you were so into gossip

Yaaasss Queen

[YGWHI]

His teammates and management will.

SAS teammates? Or his future teammates?

SAS teammates didn't have any issue with his personality until he got injured.

I doubt his new teammates would have a problem with him if he can play again, making his new team better.

[weebo]

and there's no doubt that he's resenting the team not standing up for him...

the spurs could have avoided all this if they just ruled him out for the season if that's the indication they've been getting

The Spurs medical staff cleared him to play. The guy is getting paid 19 mil a year to play a game. Stand up for him?

[DPG21920]

SAS teammates? Or his future teammates?

SAS teammates didn't have any issue with his personality until he got injured.

I doubt his new teammates would have a problem with him if he can play again, making his new team better.

My friend, reputations matter. If you don’t think players will give him side eye after this you’re wrong. Does that mean it can’t be overcome? Of course not.

But his SAS teammates didn’t have an issue w/ his personality until he revealed this new side of himself that disappears with no sense of brotherhood.

[YGWHI]

Not being cleared is not the same as ‘out for good”. Kawhi, unless he flat out lied to the media/fans, said he was “close” to the point where the most credible reporter in all of sports (Woj) said Kawhi was expected back by mid-March.

So since that did not happen, and it’s not on Pop and Kawhi left the team and is with his own medical team, unless they reported a major setback (which nothing has come out on that from Kawhi or the Spurs) then it’s on them.

Danny Green said Kawhi had set-backs, did you hear the Spurs or his doctors say a word about them?

No one side can talk to the media about major setbacks because it decrease Kawhi's trade value.

But if Danny knows about those setbacks, it's pretty obvious that Pop too.

[Mugen]

Even when Kawhi was at the games, you heard of things about him being totally disengaged. Whether that was at practice, team meetings, etc..

I guess I missed that part. Was that from Manu's comment the other week?

[DPG21920]

Danny Green said Kawhi had set-backs, did you hear the Spurs or his doctors say a word about them?

No one side can talk to the media about major setbacks because it decrease Kawhi's trade value.

But if Danny knows about those setbacks, it's pretty obvious that Pop too.

That’s bullsh*t and you know it. You ignored the entire part of what I said about Kawhi HIMSELF saying he was close. About Woj reporting he would be back mid-March.

That is why SA hasn’t ruled him out. To protect him and because Kawhi himself has not said otherwise.

By your own convoluted logic if talking about a setback would “hurt his trade value” then ruling him out would signify that there was a setback and the injury was so severe that even after 2 months with his own doctors he could not get cleared.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too as much as you want to do so.

[DPG21920]

I guess I missed that part. Was that from Manu's comment the other week?

Part of it. This stuff has been coming out since February though.

[spurraider21]

Maybe, but even if that’s true I believe your post regarding the Spurs protecting Kawhi suck anyways

Ok

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

lmao still not a peep from Kawhi. You'd figure he would have the sense to say a few words to the media and quiet down all the speculation and frustration. Otherwise, it's just going to keep getting louder and louder

[weebo]

people think my saying the team could have approached things differently is the same as me saying this situation is all PATFO's fault and kawhi is an innocent angel in all this.

if the main incentive is the have this team competing for championships, the goal should be to do what you can to reconcile your relationship with kawhi, even if his actions have put you in a tough spot

What exactly do you expect from the Spurs FO? Seems to me like they've been catering to KL and his group since all this fiasco started.

[YGWHI]

My friend, reputations matter. If you don’t think players will give him side eye after this you’re wrong. Does that mean it can’t be overcome? Of course not.

This only matters.

Many players with questionable rep in the NBA history have been loved for the new franchise/city. Plus, Kawhi's a gym-rat, if he's healthy his new teammates will love him.

Just look at ZBo. People talked about him all time until he signed with Memphis....There are many, many examples like this.

[spursistan]

That’s bullsh*t and you know it. You ignored the entire part of what I said about Kawhi HIMSELF saying he was close. About Woj reporting he would be back mid-March.

That is why SA hasn’t ruled him out. To protect him and because Kawhi himself has not said otherwise.

By your own convoluted logic if talking about a setback would “hurt his trade value” then ruling him out would signify that there was a setback and the injury was so severe that even after 2 months with his own doctors he could not get cleared.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too as much as you want to do so.

I admire DPG for having this much patience while he eviscerates the fanboys even it's too easy to see the smug obtuseness of some them ..

[Chillen]

Pippen makes some excellent points but Kawhi is not playing because he is hurt or because he doesn't want to play for Spurs anymore. Yes not being on the bench could be a team request. Either way this is looking bleak for Spurs.

[cd98]

What exactly do you expect from the Spurs FO? Seems to me like they've been catering to KL and his group since all this fiasco started.

It's interesting because my impression is that the Spurs front office thinks that Kawhi is getting bad advice from his uncle and that his uncle is inexperienced. I think they are more or less putting pressure on the uncle to deliver in hopes that he'll flail and then they can deal with a professional agent that can give Kawhi more experienced and predictable advice.

[DPG21920]

Pippen makes some excellent points but Kawhi is not playing because he is hurt or because he doesn't want to play for Spurs anymore. Yes not being on the bench could be a team request. Either way this is looking bleak for Spurs.

it’s a mutual decision based on how it was handled and as things currently stand. It didn’t have to be this way and is only this way because of how Kawhi has handled this.

[YGWHI]

By your own convoluted logic if talking about a setback would “hurt his trade value” then ruling him out would signify that there was a setback and the injury was so severe that even after 2 months with his own doctors he could not get cleared.

Nah...Talking about multiple setbacks decreases his value more than ruling him out now.

While they keep the mystery about his setbacks and how his rehab was in last months, they still can get something for him.

[duncan2k5]

Kawhi is clearly hurt... Tried to come back when doctors cleared him and realized they were wrong for clearing him because he could barely walk after the game... The media love milking this theory that he can play but doesn't want to, nor doesn't want to be around his teammates... They completely ignore the interview when Pop said he is much better off rehabbing than sitting on the bench... But who gives a about facts when the lie is more entertaining? Can't wait to see what they will talk about when Kawhi signs that contract and completely s up everyone on the court next year

[cd98]

Nah...Talking about multiple setbacks decreases his value more than ruling him out now.

While they keep the mystery about how his rehab was in last months, they still can get something for him.

No. Any team that trades for Kawhi will want to make absolutely sure he is not going to miss another season with this injury. In fact, I'm betting that if the Spurs did trade Kawhi this summer (which I doubt they do), they would get pennies on the dollar not just because of the one year rental factor, but because the mystery created by his injury.

[spurraider21]

What exactly do you expect from the Spurs FO? Seems to me like they've been catering to KL and his group since all this fiasco started.

1 - be more supportive in public statements, instead of snappy comments from pop saying "ask his group." When asked about him, statements like "we support kawhi in his recovery" etc.
2 - i've been annoyed with the "DNP - Return from Injury Management" language instead of just a more generic "DNP - Quad"

i also think the onus has been on kawhi for a long time to make public statements. i know he's a quiet guy, but when there's been a media storm over this whole thing, he should have made himself available, answer some tough questions, and do HIS part to put the fire out. i also have been critical of his not being at games or not being at the facility with teammates. it's a bad look when his own teammates say like "he doesn't practice with us, he's never around "etc. kawhi is putting the guys in unfair positions because of his reluctance to answer questions

[weebo]

Kawhi is clearly hurt... Tried to come back when doctors cleared him and realized they were wrong for clearing him because he could barely walk after the game... The media love milking this theory that he can play but doesn't want to, nor doesn't want to be around his teammates... They completely ignore the interview when Pop said he is much better off rehabbing than sitting on the bench... But who gives a about facts when the lie is more entertaining? Can't wait to see what they will talk about when Kawhi signs that contract and completely s up everyone on the court next year

This is Pop and the Spurs protecting/standing up for KL...

[Gummi Clutch]

Love Scottie, one of the most underrated players of all-time, overshadowed by the Jordan propaganda machine, tbh..

Kawhi fanboys dismissing the opinion of a top 40 player of all-time, yet using the opinion of career journeyman, mediocre Stephen Jackson in their arguments..stay consistent..

I don't think I'm a fanboi, I just know we're not going anywhere without him and Pop's antiquated style of play + dealing with stars palyed a role imo

[UZER]

Jabari Young said his doctors didn't cleared him in this trip. And Pop knows it.

Jabari going for that Brian Windhorst role. “Kawhi, take me with you.”