Yes it is so clear his own team thinks he is a pussy..
Former players calling him out.
Media burying him.
No. That’s not what I or others are saying. We are saying Kawhi is injured (at least to the point he doesn’t feel comfortable). No info has come out that SA mis-diagnosed things or that this doctors found something SA missed.
What we are saying is that Kawhi handled himself very poorly during his injury and has compounded the problems with his lack of communication, distance from his teammates and advice he seems to be taking from his Uncle.
Well, I didn't trash him. I thought he played well enough while he played himself into shape. I don't think he played poorly because of his injury, I think he was getting himself into game shape. I guess it's hard to know if it was one or the other, but he missed the entire preseason and the first third of the season before stepping on the court. Of course he's going to struggle the first few games while he gets into game shape and gets back to being accustomed to game speed.
I'm referencing you saying "it could be the truth"...as I said this is all on KL and his advisors. You want the Spurs to come out and say that KL is 100% hurt and can't play when he has already been cleared to play by the Spurs medical staff--all of this including your arguments are speculation--what we do know is that Pop/Spurs don't seem happy with KL/advisors, why? Something about all this doesn't add up.
Link please.
Ah, that's not what I'm saying. I don't doubt that Kawhi can play hurt. He played on a sprained ankle last year in the playoffs, until it got too sprained. But my guess is that he was freaked out enough by his current injury and that is has been prolonged that he probably decided he wouldn't play until he was 100%. And the Spurs probably thought he was well enough to play.
I've said before that pro players shouldn't wash dirty laundry in public.
If Kawhi thinks -since nothing is coincidence on a Pop's team- that PATFO is allowing Parker/Manu/whoever to do it...Who knows.
Anyway, I wouldn't say he's that selfish when he still keeps contact with young teammates.
See, I would disagree that an agent would do that. If Kawhi missed the whole season with his injury, even the 9 games, an agent still would've know the Spurs would pay him the super max because he is that valuable. The shoe contract would've been handled before the season. And the agent wouldn't have let things get so bad that the entire media is calling out Kawhi. I don't think you can argue credibly that Kawhi's camp has handled this well.
At least they weren't that idiot to clear him to play while he was still injured having setbacks. I wonder who were the idiots that did it...
Danny isn't Pop. Other teams will hear only the coach about this.Danny vs what Kawhi and Woj said because you think it was being suppressed by SA but they were fine with Danny broadcasting this?
Please research this injury.
Scottie can speak on this because he's been there. He played with a bad ankle for almost a year and a half. Injured it in the '92 playoffs against the Knicks and went through a lot of the same Kawhi is apparently going through now with seeing specialists and getting second opinions and all that. He had that ankle surgically repaired before the '94 season after playing on a bad wheel for so long but he was on the court all the time hardly ever missing a game. And he pretty much played for peanuts compared to what Kawhi getsThat's why the old school players are calling Kawhi out. They're looking at this guy making 19 million and not even looking in the direction of his team.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...george-mccloud
The Bulls reportedly were close to putting Scottie Pippen on the injured list last week because of his aching right ankle. But they had to back off when surgery was required for his backup, Rodney McCray.
Team insiders say the Bulls have been growing more worried about Pippen's ankle problems, which haven't eased much since he hurt it last May in the playoffs against New York.
The belief was if they could get Pippen a few weeks of rest, it might help heal the ankle, which is not said to be seriously injured, and give him more rest for the stretch run and the playoffs.
But McCray's surgery changed all that. With McCray expected to be out about a month, the Bulls have begun a hard look at small forwards around the league.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...cement-surgery
Not long after the surgery with the ankle still giving him trouble he still got back on the court because Jordan was retired and his team pretty much sucked without him. And like I said, dude was playing for practically 1/6th of Kawhi's salary while feuding with Bulls management because he had a hatred for Jerry Krause lol.After undergoing invasive surgery by team physician John Hefferon on his right ankle to repair chronic tendon problems Aug. 31, Pippen has now elected to seek a second opinion. He will travel to Birmingham, Ala., to be examined by Dr. James Andrews, who performed Bo Jackson's hip-replacement surgery.
"Obviously, Scottie doesn't feel comfortable playing on it now, and that's the most important thing," said Bulls General Manager Jerry Krause. "In the last five years, Scottie Pippen has not missed a game due to injury. He's played with all the little hurts and he's been tremendous. And if he tells me he's not feeling right on that ankle, we're not going to take any chances."
Of Pippen seeking a second opinion, Krause said: "It may be a reassurance thing, I don't know. Hefferon thinks it's a matter of time and he'll be fine. We hoped he'd have time to recover and apparently he just didn't."
Pippen first injured the ankle when he sprained it against the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference semifinals in 1992. Playing in the Olympics that summer, the ankle never fully recuperated and turned it into chronic tendinitis, which plagued him throughout last season.
He’s cleared because he can’t get worse. He may not be 100% but he is cleared to play. He may not feel ready or confident, but can you cite anything where his medical team found something the Spurs missed that showed his injury could get worse if he kept playing?
There is no way for kl fans to respond to this
Listening to left coast live. Jared Dudley was on. Thought was something was off when Kwahi wouldn't support his teammates on the bench.
If this is a beef over how the the spurs medical team handled his injury ... feels like Kwahi and his "group" have made nothing into a huge mess. This isn't a complicated injury. He's being a pre-madonna. No reason why Kwahi can't be out in Cali with the rest of the team. No doctor's will be watching work out all day. Trainer might and trainers will travel.
I'm off the Kwahi support train.
The rehab thing must be a day to day evaluation. Because he is never ruled out for a month or weeks and a time. I think this is the group or rehab facility's fault. If they just told the spurs he is being re-evaluated in 1 months time, the spurs could announced and keep the media at bay. But it's like spurs calls the group and they just say call back tomorrow.
for realLove Scottie, one of the most underrated players of all-time, overshadowed by the Jordan propaganda machine, tbh..
I don't understand the goofy silence when he can just make it known to the team that he wants out (perhaps he already has), but anyway, this unusual way of handling things won't hurt him.
Teams have paid huge money for a whole lot less of a player with waaay more damaging mental problems than just being prone to not talking to people he is done with.
He'll get paid just fine as long as he can play.
what does he say? i cant watch the video right now
Didn't Scottie quit on his team in 94 before Kukoc hit that game winner?
So he should STFU tbh
Oh No You Didn’t
More like he's the only positive.
It pretty obvious it got worse if he feels he's not able to play
I doubt Kawhi's doctors would talk about others doctor in public, his NYC doctor has the best rep as professional and seems class-act for the tweets people post in the other thread.He may not feel ready or confident, but can you cite anything where his medical team found something the Spurs missed that showed his injury could get worse if he kept playing?
For real, tholdren?
So the answer is no. They didn’t find anything that SA missed.
Not trusting the level of pain is not the same as something getting worse.
I doubt the Spurs would have given Kawhi a super-max contract even if he would have been the MVP this season, they would have asked for some paycut.
There are market that can't sign super-max contract without putting at risk their financial future..I guess SA is one of them.
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