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    There is also Parker nutting inside his team mate's wife. True alpha, tbh
    If you think that’s an alpha move you’re ing re ed.

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    They need to have a face to face with Kawhi before offering the supermax. Find out if he wants to remain a Spur or look to trade him. Do they have to blow the team culture up? no. Just find a trade with some pieces the Spurs could use for the future to remain compe ive. I like the Lakers deal if Magic would do it (Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, etc, etc). Of course by trading Kawhi to Lakers Spurs could be starting the next superteam.

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    The media loves planting these seeds because they want him gone... Spurs will DEFINITELY offer Kawhi the supermax, because if he is gone, they stand to lose more money than the extra they would have to pay him. There will be much lower attendance, sales, merchandise, endorsements, etc... They aren't stupid... A couple extra millions are peanuts compared to what they will gain from him being here

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    I dont disagree.
    sports "journalists" gotta produce output, and they ALL are obligated to spout, to dramatize, to fabricate FMVP/DPOY K "versus" the Spurs.

    99% is opinionated, gratuitous "fake news" bull
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    The media loves planting these seeds because they want him gone... Spurs will DEFINITELY offer Kawhi the supermax, because if he is gone, they stand to lose more money than the extra they would have to pay him. There will be much lower attendance, sales, merchandise, endorsements, etc... They aren't stupid... A couple extra millions are peanuts compared to what they will gain from him being here
    This is probably a more media driven storm with Kawhi. Yes Spurs should offer the supermax but it's risky especially if this injury lingers. A face to face meeting would be wise if he would grant that.

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    I have a feeling that duncan2k5 and YWHI are the same or two guys who live in the basement as roommates

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    I have a feeling that duncan2k5 and YWHI are the same or two guys who live in the basement as roommates
    One wipes during the day and the other at night tbh

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    The media loves planting these seeds because they want him gone... Spurs will DEFINITELY offer Kawhi the supermax, because if he is gone, they stand to lose more money than the extra they would have to pay him. There will be much lower attendance, sales, merchandise, endorsements, etc... They aren't stupid... A couple extra millions are peanuts compared to what they will gain from him being here
    I agree with you, but I think he’s going to have to prove he can play, and secondly, this whole thing with his family now running his career (if that’s true) is going to have to be worked out. I can’t see Pop keeping anyone he can’t depend on, even a Kawhi.

    I hope this has all been injury related and the media blew it out of proportion, but I’ve just never seen anything like this in my 42 years as a Spurs fan. I’m perplexed, and really have no idea at this point how this will play out. My gut says he’ll be traded, my heart and Spurs soul says he’s a Spur for life and the two (three?) sides will work it out. Pop surprised me with the LMA handling this year, maybe he’ll do it again.

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    spurfan still claiming media hates spur when they do nothing but lick PATFO butthole year after year

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    I agree with you, but I think he’s going to have to prove he can play, and secondly, this whole thing with his family now running his career (if that’s true) is going to have to be worked out. I can’t see Pop keeping anyone he can’t depend on, even a Kawhi.

    I hope this has all been injury related and the media blew it out of proportion, but I’ve just never seen anything like this in my 42 years as a Spurs fan. I’m perplexed, and really have no idea at this point how this will play out. My gut says he’ll be traded, my heart and Spurs soul says he’s a Spur for life and the two (three?) sides will work it out. Pop surprised me with the LMA handling this year, maybe he’ll do it again.
    Why does he have to prove anything? Did LA have to prove anything before signing his contract after he demanded a trade with no reasoning... Right after disappearing in the playoffs? Did Patty and Gasol have to prove anything before their big contracts? All these coming after a season where they were very bad in the playoffs... So why does Kawhi now have to prove he can play when he has proven it and more for years!? He deserves even more benefit of the doubt based on how our FO has been treating players

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    spurfan still claiming media hates spur when they do nothing but lick PATFO butthole year after year
    I agree, even with some mistakes that anyone can see (mills 12:01, gasol wtf), or maybe this is just another proof that they really want to see the Spurs down

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    The Spurs hate is there... But because there isn't much to publicly hate (despite Pop's poor decisions at times, his resume is still possibly the best ever), they don't say anything on air because they may look silly... U can respect someone, and want to see them fail at the same time... That's how I felt about KD in OKC... That's how I felt about LeBron on the heat, etc...

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    The Spurs hate is there... But because there isn't much to publicly hate (despite Pop's poor decisions at times, his resume is still possibly the best ever), they don't say anything on air because they may look silly... U can respect someone, and want to see them fail at the same time... That's how I felt about KD in OKC... That's how I felt about LeBron on the heat, etc...
    I think the Spurs are probably trying to be pretty disciplined with how they showing everything, but Pop probably showed his frustration publicly with the his group comment out of frustration. IMO they are trying to protect trade value, still floating supermax etc. Aldridges trade value was affected alot last year which led to the sitdown where he eventually ended up staying and it working out, but I see it alot differently with Kawhi since hes been so distant, Aldridge was at least around every game last year. But with his skill level even if he did want out badly and it was public I don't know how much it would effect a trade.

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    Why does he have to prove anything? Did LA have to prove anything before signing his contract after he demanded a trade with no reasoning... Right after disappearing in the playoffs? Did Patty and Gasol have to prove anything before their big contracts? All these coming after a season where they were very bad in the playoffs... So why does Kawhi now have to prove he can play when he has proven it and more for years!?
    Did any of them go AWOL?

    He deserves even more benefit of the doubt based on how our FO has been treating players
    LOL what is this stupid ?

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    I'm convinced that the media is proactively trying to sabotage the Spurs.
    not sure who is trying harder: ST or the media.

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    Did any of them go AWOL?



    LOL what is this stupid ?
    AWOL? the dude is getting treatment in NY with spurs doctors... Wtf

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    ^delusional

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    AWOL? the dude is getting treatment in NY with spurs doctors... Wtf
    And Yahoo is reporting that the Kwahi camp is not allowing Spurs officials near him while in NY....

    Maybe Kwahi camp is looking at the IT situation as an example... but there response has also poisoned the waters as well. It might cost Kwahi and his group a significant amount of money. I can't see any shoe deal really making up that difference. As much marketing as they've done, he's a pretty boring personality. No change in market will significantly change that...

    Other players of his caliber show more personality and are more engaging ... Where they play doesn't matter.

    If Kwahi had been more engaged, I assume there'd be less of a prove it mentality. But he's disappeared. He's lost a lot of trust and confidence from a lot of people. He's been very unprofessional this year. LMA with all his prior issues, was a professional throughout it all.

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    And Yahoo is reporting that the Kwahi camp is not allowing Spurs officials near him while in NY....

    Maybe Kwahi camp is looking at the IT situation as an example... but there response has also poisoned the waters as well. It might cost Kwahi and his group a significant amount of money. I can't see any shoe deal really making up that difference. As much marketing as they've done, he's a pretty boring personality. No change in market will significantly change that...

    Other players of his caliber show more personality and are more engaging ... Where they play doesn't matter.

    If Kwahi had been more engaged, I assume there'd be less of a prove it mentality. But he's disappeared. He's lost a lot of trust and confidence from a lot of people. He's been very unprofessional this year. LMA with all his prior issues, was a professional throughout it all.
    How exactly was LMA professional? He was attempting to leave without ANY explanation... AFTER bombing in the playoffs... The only reason he gave a sit down was because no one wanted him... A sit down where he then began to complain about touches...

    90% of what is happening with Kawhi is all speculation... Even in the face of Kawhi and his teammates saying otherwise

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    How exactly was LMA professional? He was attempting to leave without ANY explanation... AFTER bombing in the playoffs... The only reason he gave a sit down was because no one wanted him... A sit down where he then began to complain about touches...

    90% of what is happening with Kawhi is all speculation... Even in the face of Kawhi and his teammates saying otherwise

    Brother, I love your loyalty to Kawhi in this situation....I really hope you're right about him.



    But as far as how the Spurs treat their players, I don't think there's an organization in pro sports that does a better job in that department than the Spurs have. I think that's clearly an area where you're off course a bit.

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    Why does he have to prove anything? Did LA have to prove anything before signing his contract after he demanded a trade with no reasoning... Right after disappearing in the playoffs? Did Patty and Gasol have to prove anything before their big contracts? All these coming after a season where they were very bad in the playoffs... So why does Kawhi now have to prove he can play when he has proven it and more for years!? He deserves even more benefit of the doubt based on how our FO has been treating players
    I think when one player stands to gobble up half your cap space for the next several you need to be reassured that he can a) play at a high level, and b) has his head on straight. Remember, he's the guy saying he's hurt, supposedly not the Spurs organization. $219M is a lot of money to put into a player that couldn't play because he can't recover from his injury. So yeah, if I'm the Spurs I'm asking for those reassurances.

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    And if I'm SA, I'm seriously looking at LMA this summer too. He's carried us this season, there's no doubt, but he's also raised his value a lot with his play this year. The Spurs can't get to the promised land with LMA as the centerpiece, so if Kawhi can't go, or isn't resigned, I'm probably looking at what I can get for LMA also. The "beautiful game" will never return with LMA in the middle, as great as he was this season.

    There will be a ton of dominoes falling if Kawhi doesn't come back.

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    AWOL? the dude is getting treatment in NY with spurs doctors... Wtf
    You are either naive, painfully stupid or both.

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    And if I'm SA, I'm seriously looking at LMA this summer too. He's carried us this season, there's no doubt, but he's also raised his value a lot with his play this year. The Spurs can't get to the promised land with LMA as the centerpiece, so if Kawhi can't go, or isn't resigned, I'm probably looking at what I can get for LMA also. The "beautiful game" will never return with LMA in the middle, as great as he was this season.

    There will be a ton of dominoes falling if Kawhi doesn't come back.
    I hope you're right about it, this roster needs aggressive changes.

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    And if I'm SA, I'm seriously looking at LMA this summer too. He's carried us this season, there's no doubt, but he's also raised his value a lot with his play this year. The Spurs can't get to the promised land with LMA as the centerpiece, so if Kawhi can't go, or isn't resigned, I'm probably looking at what I can get for LMA also. The "beautiful game" will never return with LMA in the middle, as great as he was this season.

    There will be a ton of dominoes falling if Kawhi doesn't come back.
    I agree on selling high on Aldridge. LMA + Jayson Tatum isn't making the Spurs compe ive with Golden State, so might as well go the full rebuild. Sucks the NBA changed the tanking rules so you only get a 14% chance at the #1 pick if you're the worst record instead of the 25% chance it is this year.

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