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    "cultural change of the masses"

    Would a cultural change of the masses include the fact that Republicans have viewed a free press and less and less important to Democracy?



    I'd kind of like an answer to this question as well. It speaks directly to the OP.
    Seems he's showing a dislike for how mainstream media is doing their job. He's doing so in the form of a joke. You taking it seriously and making wild inferences to paint Republicans negatively is not very useful.
    My statement of fact was not based on the picture, but polling data, that consistently show that Republicans in general do not think that a free press is important.

    Poll: Less than half of Republicans believe free press important for democracy
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ee-press-press

    Poll: 73% Of Republicans Say The Media Is Abusing Its First Amendment Freedom Of The Press
    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/...freedom-press/

    45 percent of Republicans want the government to shutter “biased or inaccurate” media
    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/27/...-freedom-trump

    This information is not hard to find.

    So, the question remains, despite your deflection.

    cultural change of the masses"

    Would a cultural change of the masses include the fact that Republicans have viewed a free press and less and less important to Democracy?
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    Well [young liberals] are shutting down all opposing perspective. The outcome of that may be liberal but the process is insufficient to produce any well founded outcome.
    What percentage of these young liberals want the government to shutter “biased or inaccurate” media?

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    My statement of fact was not based on the picture, but polling data, that consistently show that Republicans in general do not think that a free press is important.

    Poll: Less than half of Republicans believe free press important for democracy
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ee-press-press

    Poll: 73% Of Republicans Say The Media Is Abusing Its First Amendment Freedom Of The Press
    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/...freedom-press/

    45 percent of Republicans want the government to shutter “biased or inaccurate” media
    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/27/...-freedom-trump

    This information is not hard to find.

    So, the question remains, despite your deflection.

    cultural change of the masses"

    Would a cultural change of the masses include the fact that Republicans have viewed a free press and less and less important to Democracy?
    You should have made this post if you wanted me to respond to it. Responding to your post with an irrelevant pic is not deflection.

    Yes, those polls are problematic. And it could have real world consequences in the future. The real world consequences from the left are already occuring. That's the bigger threat at the moment. And the threat goes beyond this topic of discussion.

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    You should have made this post if you wanted me to respond to it. Responding to your post with an irrelevant pic is not deflection.

    Yes, those polls are problematic. And it could have real world consequences in the future. The real world consequences from the left are already occuring. That's the bigger threat at the moment. And the threat goes beyond this topic of discussion.
    How did you decide that intolerance of the left is the "bigger threat at the moment?" What criteria did you use, for example?

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    "consequences from the left are already occuring. That's the bigger threat at the moment."

    goddamn, you're ing stupid

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    Yes, those polls [concerning Republican at udes toward free press ]are problematic. And it could have real world consequences in the future.
    Republican party controls all three branches of the federal government and most sate legislatures.

    Seems like any anti-democratic at udes towards free press on the part of the ruling party of this country are going to have consequences right now.

    On what do you base your claim that this problem lies in the future and not currently?

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    Your "observation" was complaining about having your views challenged. That is a move.

    And Liberals do not outnumber the conservatives particularly when you start factoring troll accounts. Your problem is the high density of conservative dumb s like ducks, TSA, Chris, chucho, and joey.

    Meanwhile RG posts and he gets on by the troll brigade. He makes a thread and it's spam city.
    RG gets/got shat on by Board Libs too when he posts like Boots.

    No one takes you seriously whatsoever and it's hilarious when you feign this superiority gimmick that makes you an unbearable all over the place.You think being the faux-est intellectual on this place is something coveted.

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    Trump is good for business -- the MSM business. They can't quit him.

    As that unfunny comedienne pointed out at the WHCD

    "He couldn't sell steaks or vodka or water or college or ties or Eric. But he has helped you. He's helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you're profiting off of him."

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    "consequences from the left are already occuring. That's the bigger threat at the moment."

    goddamn, you're ing stupid
    The consequence was Trump's election, you tool. If the Left didn't go too far Left with bat lunacy and ultra-minority pandering while insulting and ostracizing a huge portion of their more moderate base and basically calling anyone who wasn't on board with their Far Left agenda a White Nationalist, Trump wouldn't have won.

    Trump as President is a threat and a reason for it is "goddamn ing stupid" people like you pushing the Left's Far Right equivalent agenda.

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    RG gets/got shat on by Board Libs too when he posts like Boots.

    No one takes you seriously whatsoever and it's hilarious when you feign this superiority gimmick that makes you an unbearable all over the place.You think being the faux-est intellectual on this place is something coveted.
    That you think the ineffectual, lazy thinkers "shat" on me when I post they don't like doesn't make it true.

    5 trolls all circle jerking over something because one of them thinks they made a good point simply makes me shake my head and decide to not bother.

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    Trump is good for business -- the MSM business. They can't quit him.
    As Clinton is for the right-wing media. They can't quit her.

    It's hard to stop reporting about the current President of the United States though.

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    That you think the ineffectual, lazy thinkers "shat" on me when I post they don't like doesn't make it true.

    5 trolls all circle jerking over something because one of them thinks they made a good point simply makes me shake my head and decide to not bother.

    They shat on you when you raged and posted like Boots and had threads netting two or three posts. You're an intelligent man, but that stretch of posting was pretty damn cringy.

    Why would you shake your head? It's insanity to believe this place has some legitimacy as a pure discussion board or that there's some civility to this place. It's a predominantly -talk, spam, insult board and has been for the last 10 years. Everyone gets a big dropped on their chests here at some point.

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    They shat on you when you raged and posted like Boots and had threads netting two or three posts. You're an intelligent man, but that stretch of posting was pretty damn cringy.

    Why would you shake your head? It's insanity to believe this place has some legitimacy as a pure discussion board or that there's some civility to this place. It's a predominantly -talk, spam, insult board and has been for the last 10 years. Everyone gets a big dropped on their chests here at some point.
    Fair comment, all.

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    As Clinton is for the right-wing media. They can't quit her.

    It's hard to stop reporting about the current President of the United States though.

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    Fair comment, all.

    I appreciate that and that's why you're good people- you're honest.

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    So what happens to all the snowflake Trump staffers who cried about someone making jokes about them at the correspondents dinner?
    they made jokes or some 80 yr old crows feet ugly ass carrot top wannabe 32 yr old hag tried to play make believe comedian? the left is ugly as ! i'm a ugly mother er too but at least i'm not part of that party.

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    Seems he's showing a dislike for how mainstream media is doing their job. He's doing so in the form of a joke. You taking it seriously and making wild inferences to paint Republicans negatively is not very useful.
    the question random asked is hilarious... so with that said does random actually believe MSM is free press and important to democracy? i mean WMDs, Hands up, Fake interview after fake interview, Metoo assholes through MSM, etc... your democracy if it includes hacks in the MSM.

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    I appreciate that and that's why you're good people- you're honest.
    Thank you.

    It is hard admitting when you are wrong, just as it is hard to examine underlying assumptions.

    In that honesty:

    I actually agree with some of the premise of the OP. If Nathan were honest, and admit that PC police exist on the right, this would be a lot less painful for him. Intolerance of differing opinion is a problem in this country, and definitely needs to be addressed.

    If Nathan had done his homework, he might find a poll that shows that intolerance does span both ends of the spectrum.

    There is an argument to make as to which side is worse, though. The GOP has always been much less tolerant of differing views, but that is simply the nature of conservatism. Change = bad. One has only to look at how each party treats centrists. RINOs get tea partied out in primaries. That push for extremism is fairly new in the last decade or so.

    College kids going ape is not news, IMO. If one wants to ding the left without admitting the problem on the right for almost identical reasons, that is either ignorant, or actively dishonest.

    Good policy solutions rarely come out of dishonest arguments.

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    the question random asked is hilarious... so with that said does random actually believe MSM is free press and important to democracy? i mean WMDs, Hands up, Fake interview after fake interview, Metoo assholes through MSM, etc... your democracy if it includes hacks in the MSM.
    ... and along comes koriwhat to prove my point for me, blithely ignorant that he is doing so.

    Worth noting:
    Free press includes a variety of view points.

    I think you and Nathan would agree that "good" media that isn't an enemy of the people is doing its job when they endlessly talk about how great Republicans are.

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    they made jokes or some 80 yr old crows feet ugly ass carrot top wannabe 32 yr old hag tried to play make believe comedian? the left is ugly as ! i'm a ugly mother er too but at least i'm not part of that party.
    Bro, you’re so insecure you put down yourself. Cmon now

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    i agree, but find it really silly when people turn their entire political iden y into a single issue crusade
    Why is it silly?

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    Your "observation" was complaining about having your views challenged. That is a move.

    And Liberals do not outnumber the conservatives particularly when you start factoring troll accounts. Your problem is the high density of conservative dumb s like ducks, TSA, Chris, chucho, and joey.

    Meanwhile RG posts and he gets on by the troll brigade. He makes a thread and it's spam city.
    Complaining about my views being challenged? WTF do you think I'm here? I don't live in SA, not a Spurs fan (besides a casual admirer), etc. I post in here mainly for the past ten years off and on. I enjoy being outside my comfort zone, learning new experiences. My views are constantly being challenged here.


    That is quite the most idiotic response you could have had.

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    That you think the ineffectual, lazy thinkers "shat" on me when I post they don't like doesn't make it true.

    5 trolls all circle jerking over something because one of them thinks they made a good point simply makes me shake my head and decide to not bother.
    You're a troll though.

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    You're a troll though.
    You think the illuminati is real and that 9/11 was an inside job

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    You think the illuminati is real and that 9/11 was an inside job
    And thay Obama gets high from drinking baby rape blood.

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