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They'd give the Spurs both in a second if they can get Leonard to agree to an extension, assuming his health checks out with their doctors. But if Kawhi is a and Boston is taking a chance on a one year rental the Spurs would get neither.
Your solution is to bend over and take it if all the Spurs get is a crap offer from LA? If the best you can get is garbage might as well dare Leonard to keep shooting down trades to other teams. Playing hardball can be a two way street.
They'd give the Spurs both in a second if they can get Leonard to agree to an extension, assuming his health checks out with their doctors. But if Kawhi is a and Boston is taking a chance on a one year rental the Spurs would get neither.
Of course Boston would trade Tatum for Kawhi straight up. That team with Kawhi is ridiculous. The question is what the package is and whether he would re-sign, but Tatum is looking like a good centerpiece for a return.
Both? That ship sailed a long time ago, regardless of health. No one outside of Spurfanforum believes there's any chance at all Ainge would move both
Spurfans are going to be in a rude awakening if/when it becomes known PATFO were lowballed bigtime for Kawhi..
Has it ever happened a player miss nearly an entire year basketball season without going under the knife? yall need to wake the f up. We are closer to Brandon Roy territory with him than somehow recovering to be at an MVP-level again..
With a four year extension the Spurs should have no problem getting both, though I doubt they'd get any good picks then. What is Boston going to do with four starting level small forwards?Both? That ship sailed a long time ago, regardless of health. No one outside of Spurfanforum believes there's any chance at all Ainge would move both
Ainge will not give away players on all-star level career trajectories on cheap deals for combined 7 remaining years just to pay Kiwi 35 million per tbh. Hayward and one of the young ones would be more like the deal, hayward+tatum or irving+brown perhaps...
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I love how you have lots of ideas what the Celtics won't do but then come up with ing stupid deals they would offer.
I'd pull the trigger for Tatum, Rozier and the 1st round pick.
The Celtics aren't trading Hayward. No free agent would ever sign there again if they dumped him off to a rebuilding team after one season.
I’m thinking this could be a situation if it gets to that point where it’s some random team. Like how no one saw OKC coming for PG, there might be some team that takes that swing for Kawhi to make a splash.
Becoming a better question by the day, tbqh.Why would the ECF-bound Celtics (minus 2 AllStars) even think of trading their best two young prospects for a 6-7 year older injury-prone soft beta with a degenerative quad?
He makes a ridiculous amount of money, too. I don't see the Spurs swinging for that. He's also a complementary player, and that's not very useful for us.
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This guy thinks it might be the HEB commercials. It's as good a guess as any, tbcfh.
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It's easy now to say the Celtics wouldn't give up the requisite assets. That should only be further incentive to repair the relationship with Leonard because the 76ers are the only other team that will probably have interest and has the type of disposable assets that should be appealing to the Spurs . . . the problem is, as has been said ad nauseam, Fultz is risky.
Outside of Ayton or Doncic, does anyone else stand out as having star potential? 12 and 13, I wouldn't even consider. It's highly unlikely either pick turns into a star.
Yeah, I brought this up recently. I could see the Spurs looking to do this.
You make the best trade you can because that is better than getting nothing. I don't care who it is to, but there is no worse outcome than Kawhi leaving and getting nothing so you obviously don't chose that one. I didn't say anything about taking the first offer or not playing hardball. But when push comes to shove, you move him for the best offer if you feel you the situation is broken.
How is this even debateable? Trading Kawhi for nothing more than a 2nd round draft pick is better than him just leaving via free agency. That doesn't mean thats the trade I want to see happen. Something >>>>>>>> Nothing.
Sorry I don't talk to fans of teams that are absolute and utter . Try Clipperstalk.com
How much is Kawhi's max, non super max, contract supposed to be? The $35 million figure sounds like higher than it would actually end up being.
I agree that he likely won't give up both Tatum and Brown, which is why I suspect that a Spurs-Boston deal would include Tatum and the 2019 Grizzlies and Kings picks instead.
Boston is going to have a huge payroll anyway with Kyrie set to get an extension next season and Hayward and Horford both already on max deals but Kawhi added to those 3 players ( plus Brown) would instantly make them the best team in the East for the next half a decade +
You're just saying not to play hardball, to take a Lakers crap offer if that's the best you get. I don't think you take an offer you don't like just because it might be slightly better than getting nothing. I'd tell Leonard he's getting suspended for the season and follow up on it with the hopes that he either expands his list of teams he'd sign an extension with or gets his agent to light a fire under the Lakers' asses to get them to make a move for assets the Spurs would want. If the worst case scenario is it doesn't work out and the team loses out on some crap like Kuzma I'll live with it, especially since it would Leonard over by having him miss a second season of basketball. I don't think it would come to that because I can't imagine he can live with a second year away from the game, but he already stole $19 million from the team this year so I could give a about him if he tries to the Spurs over again by depressing his trade value with threats to only sign in LA.
Does it matter? We know that Jabari Young is close to Kawhi's group, he said his camp would sign a super-max deal if Spurs' offer it...
What's the reason for refusing to give him that contract? The broken relationship or the injury?
No one in the league would believe the Spurs lose a top-3 player -if he is healthy- for a broken-relationship. They know his group wants that contract and also know that Pop would fix things like always he did.
At this point, all GMs know, if they don't offer him that contract is because his injury.
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