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    Do you think the Special Council is currently the only group of people able to investigate Clinton developments?
    No, there are investigations going on right now concerning Clinton. If Mueller was truly interested in investigating coordination with foreign intelligence he could easily start with the DNC and Christopher Steele.

    I never said he did.
    And that all of this is being done, on purpose, to divert attention away from a candidate who lost the election 1.5 years ago.
    You implied it was the sole reason here ^

    "and any matters that arose or may arise from that investigation"

    I don't know if they did, I'm not on the Special Council.
    They are simple yes or no questions but I'm not going to antagonize you to answer them.

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    No, there are investigations going on right now concerning Clinton. If Mueller was truly interested in investigating coordination with foreign intelligence he could easily start with the DNC and Christopher Steele.





    You implied it was the sole reason here ^



    They are simple yes or no questions but I'm not going to antagonize you to answer them.
    how did steele influence the US election?

    was he acting on behalf of a foreign government?

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    how did steele influence the US election?

    was he acting on behalf of a foreign government?
    Bolded it for you

    Timeline of events...
    Here's the long version:

    1. The DNC believes the only threat to a Clinton presidency is Bernie Sanders.

    2. The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Sanders.

    3. Trump gains popular support, has large rallies, emerges as probable Republican nominee. Clinton becomes concerned.

    4. June 27, 2016, Bill Clinton meets in secret with AG Loretta Lynch at Phoenix Airport.

    5. July 2016, Obama administration seeks FISA court surveillance of Trump, his family, his transition team, and associates using the pretext that normal pre-election contacts between the Trump transition team and other nations is su ious.

    6. The Court reviews the application and denies it.

    7. Donna Brazil advances Clinton presidential debate questions on at least one occasion

    8. The DNC, Obama Administration, and HRC need more probable cause to return before the FISA Court.

    9. The DNC and HRC through their law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS pay Trump hating former British MI6 agent and active FBI informant Christopher Steele to come up with dirt on Trump.

    10. In September, 2016 Steele begins “secretly” meeting with the mainstream media to propagate the story of Trump/Russian election collusion with the approval of the DNC/HRC.

    11. On October 7, 2016, the mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing pussy.

    12. Between June and December 2016, Steele fabricates the “Trump Dossier” in segments which the FBI calls “Salacious and Unverified,” Steele is labeled as a fraud and further terminated as an FBI informant for having meetings with the press.

    13. Despite Steele being labeled an “unreliable source” by the FBI, he maintains contact with Assistant Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr (and others at the FBI). Ohr’s wife Nellie, like Steele, is being paid with DNC/HRC money by Fusion GPS to “investigate” Trump.

    14. On October 21, 2016, the FBI uses the Trump Dossier as probable cause to get a 90 day Federal (FISA) Court Order to wiretap Trump. The FBI renews the order 3 times over the course of the next 270 days despite Steele’s known lack of credibility, his personal animus and political agenda, without confirming the substance of the report, and knowing that it had been purchased by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

    15. The FBI fails all 4 times to inform the Federal Judges who issued the FISA orders that the probable cause being presented was unverified, came from a discredited source, came from a source with personal animus and a political motivation, or had been purchased by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

    16. FBI Director Comey signed and swore before the Federal Court that the probable cause presented to wiretap Trump was true on 3 occasions. Deputy Director McCabe did so once on behalf of the FBI.

    17. Deputy Director McCabe was the chief investigator of the HRC e-mail scandal. McCabe’s wife, Jill, had received a $700,000 “donation” from the HRC in a failed run for a Virginia senate seat in 2015.

    18. Deputy Attorney Generals for the DOJ Sally Yates, Dana Boente, and Rod Rosenstein each signed and swore before the Federal Court that the probable cause presented to wiretap Trump was true at least once.

    19. Trump wins the General Election.

    20. On December 29, 2016, Obama tries to give the ruse of Russian election interference credibility by expelling 35 Russian diplomats from the US.

    21. Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data.

    22. In January 2017, the House Intelligence Committee announces its investigation into Russian election interference and cyber attacks.

    23. On January 10, 2017, the Trump Dossier is leaked to the press.

    24. On January 20, 2017, Trump takes office.

    25. On January 30, 2017, Acting AG Yates is fired by Trump for refusing to obey a lawful executive order on immigration.

    26. On May 9, 2017, Trump fires Comey for obstructing the HRC e-mail investigation.

    27. On May 16, 2017, former FBI director Robert Mueller interviews with Trump for reappointment as FBI Director.

    28. On May 17, 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appoints former Obama FBI Director and Comey confidant Robert Mueller as Special Counsel to investigate collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign to influence the 2016 presidential election.

    29. In July 2017, lead FBI Agent Peter Strzok is removed from the Mueller team after text messages between Strzok and his mistress, FBI attorney Lisa Page, reveal strong HRC sentiments and deep-seated bias toward Trump, the orchestration of leaks to the media, and a possible conspiracy, or “secret society” of McCabe and top FBI officials gathered to fix the 2016 election and later, impeach Trump.

    30. Strzok was a lead investigator in the HRC e-mail scandal.

    31. Mueller fails to inform Congress of the Strzok/Page matter.

    32. On December 3, 2017, Congress threatens to hold Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress after months of refusing to produce records to the House Intelligence Committee investigating FBI/DOJ corruption associated with the Trump Dossier.

    33. On December 7, 2017, it is revealed Mueller team member attorney Jeannie Rhee defended the Clinton Foundation in 2015 against a racketeering lawsuit brought by Freedom Watch, and personally represented Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a lawsuit seeking access to her private emails.

    34. On December 13, 2017, a portion of the Strzok/Page texts are released, but the FBI claims that 5 months of key text messages were lost due to a computer glitch. The IG recovers them in 2 days.

    35. On December 22, 2017. McCabe testifies under oath to Congress that the FISA warrants used to wiretap Trump never would have been possible without the fake Trump Dossier.

    36. The HIC makes public that it has summarized its investigation to date in a 4 page memo form. Stiff resistance to its release is raised by DNC and the FBI.

    37. On January 28, 2018, FBI director Wray and Agents from the bureau’s counterintelligence division and legal division review the Memo and cannot point to any factual inaccuracies.

    38. McCabe promptly steps down.

    39. On February 2, 2018, the 4 page “FISA” Memo is released.

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    lol of course you edited your post with a qualifier per

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    lol of course you edited your post with a qualifier per
    that's not a qualifier. it's just an additional question. if the special counsel is supposed to investigate foreign interference, it's pretty important to know what foreign government steele was acting on behalf of

    and you didnt answer how steele influenced the election. the bolded didn't influence the election. none of us knew about the dossier until after the election

    explain how a dossier that became news 2 months after the election influenced the election
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    that's not a qualifier. it's just an additional question. if the special counsel is supposed to investigate foreign interference, it's pretty important to know what foreign government steele was acting on behalf of

    and you didnt answer how steele influenced the election. the bolded didn't influence the election. none of us knew about the dossier until after the election

    explain how a dossier that became news 2 months after the election influenced the election
    Hillary Clinton eats babies but somehow declined to release the dossier that is at least partially true until after the time it would have done her any good.

    lol all the right wing conspiracy theorists.

    You know who you are.

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    "Muh Russia" crowd always hilarious..bunch of liberals who are probably arguing law enforcement has too much power 90% of the time and then talking when anyone under investigation doesnt want to flush their rights down the toilet because hes their enemy. But hey gots to get da Drumpf!

    Can imagine if this was some poor black kid you dorks would be writing poems about how smart it was for him to take the fifth amendment
    Your takes and Darrin's are indistinguishable.

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    Was James Comey limited to one investigation? I'm confused by Comey's relevance to the question of whether one investigation prevents work on another.

    No, there are investigations going on right now concerning Clinton.
    Thanks for confirming.

    If Mueller was truly interested in investigating coordination with foreign intelligence he could easily start with the DNC and Christopher Steele.
    How do you know he hasn't looked into it and decided there's nothing there?

    You implied it was the sole reason here ^
    "This is all being done" does not mean the same thing as "This is only being done."

    They are simple yes or no questions but I'm not going to antagonize you to answer them.
    They are only simple if you're cheerleading for one side of the other and making predictions. None of us knows everything being investigated, so it's silly to pretend we do and that we know the result. Obviously several people here want a certain result so bad that they're betting for it... the only reward being leverage to talk .

    I honestly haven't paid enough attention to make any kind of educated prediction. I'm willing to let the investigation play out and see what happens, and it's striking to me to see how many Republicans want to make it go away and how many voters are willing to support that idea.

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    Hysteria over Jade Helm exercise in Texas was fueled by Russians, former CIA director says

    Abbott ordered the State Guard to monitor the federal exercise soon after news broke of the operation.

    Hayden said that move gave Russians the go-ahead to continue — and possibly expand — their efforts to spread fear.

    “At that point, I’m figuring the Russians are saying, ‘We can go big time,’” Hayden said of Abbott's response.

    “At that point, I think they made the decision, ‘We’re going to play in the electoral process.’”

    https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05...s-former-cia-/?



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    Your takes and Darrin's are indistinguishable.
    Oh look another paranoid alt guess

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    Oh look another paranoid alt guess
    They have the exact same takes. That is not a guess.

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    Oh look. Darrin again with no take.

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    They have the exact same takes. That is not a guess.
    Yeah ill bet they’re the same person. Probably follow you around on other forums too

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    Yeah ill bet they’re the same person. Probably follow you around on other forums too

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    Are you outraged, Darrin? The article says they're outrageous.

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    She saved a lot of money by living rent free in your head instead.

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    She saved a lot of money by living rent free in your head instead.
    tbh this was meant for The Trump is doing Awesome Thread

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    What do you think Mueller is investigating specifically?
    Still waiting Pavlov.

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    Rejected to do what? By which judges?
    MUELLER MAYHEM: Federal Judge REJECTS Special Counsel’s Request for Delay


    https://www.hannity.com/media-room/m...est-for-delay/

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    MUELLER MAYHEM: Federal Judge REJECTS Special Counsel’s Request for Delay


    https://www.hannity.com/media-room/m...est-for-delay/
    ah you were referring to this one. arraignments are set for wednesday and mueller sought to postpone it. court said no. so we'll see what happens wednesday

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    ah you were referring to this one. arraignments are set for wednesday and mueller sought to postpone it. court said no. so we'll see what happens wednesday
    *Risitas

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    you also said he was rejected twice by two different judges.

    that's one. what's the other?

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