Inside the tension between Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs - Woj

[DPG21920]

The best news is Kawhi was doing a medical holdout. If he’s clean bill of health that helps in giving him money or trade value as snakey as that would be.

[baseline bum]

Its' only weird if you think his rehab was anything other than a medical holdout. It makes perfect sense to me. The charade is over, because it's no longer needed.

This. ing Eric Gordon 2018.

[baseline bum]

The best news is Kawhi was doing a medical holdout. If he’s clean bill of health that helps in giving him money or trade value as snakey as that would be.

If they give him the supermax they can't trade his ass for a year. I don't want the mother er who has already checked out on his team.

[DPG21920]

Sure, as unpalatable as that might be it’s still easily best case scenario value wise. I’d rather wait a year and get insane value

[coachmac87]

The best news is Kawhi was doing a medical holdout. If he’s clean bill of health that helps in giving him money or trade value as snakey as that would be.

Tbh the more you think about it the more it makes the most sense...now whether you agree if it’s right or not is a different story. I get both sides though and like you said if all can just shake hands and move past this then cool...

I think the whole thing makes sense if you really break it all down..it was an absolute medical hold out.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Tbh the more you think about it the more it makes the most sense...now whether you agree if it’s right or not is a different story. I get both sides though and like you said if all can just shake hands and move past this then cool...

I think the whole thing makes sense if you really break it all down..it was an absolute medical hold out.

This.

[baseline bum]

Sure, as unpalatable as that might be it’s still easily best case scenario value wise. I’d rather wait a year and get insane value

I disagree. It wastes a year of the rebuild that will be absolutely necessary if he wants out. Plus the Spurs would have to take back a horrible contract or two to move Leonard in a year when he's due $38 million under a supermax deal. If you wanted to for example trade Leonard to Boston for Tatum+Brown this summer you'd only need to take a small contract such as Marcus Morris' $5 million or so to make the trade work under the cap. If you do it next summer when Leonard is owed $18 million more all of a sudden now you're having to take Horford's ridiculous contract off their hands instead of Morris' cheap one.

[baseline bum]

Plus who wants to deal with all this Leonard drama for another year? If the Spurs pay him the supermax it's to stay here longterm if he tells Uncle Dennis to off.

[NASpurs]

I disagree. It wastes a year of the rebuild that will be absolutely necessary if he wants out. Plus the Spurs would have to take back a horrible contract or two to move Leonard in a year when he's due $38 million under a supermax deal. If you wanted to for example trade Leonard to Boston for Tatum+Brown this summer you'd only need to take a small contract such as Marcus Morris' $5 million or so to make the trade work under the cap. If you do it next summer when Leonard is owed $18 million more all of a sudden now you're having to take Horford's ridiculous contract off their hands instead of Morris' cheap one.

I think that's called the Danny Ainge Special... to get ed in the ass by him in a trade. Yeah don't want none of that.

[DPG21920]

Bruh, if Kawhi is healthy and playing under contract (super max or not) he’s a top 5 player in the nba and teams will line up to trade for him.

The only reason his value is somewhat muted currently is the injury (which in this scenario the medical hold out eliminated that concern) and the fact he can bolt in a year if a team trades for him. If you eliminate that every team in the league will bid.

[FkLA]

This. ing Eric Gordon 2018.

Quiet doesn't always equal classy or humble. There are plenty of quiet pieces of out there.

He wants out and is pretty much pulling an Eric Gordon (New Orleans).

I can't believe people still think he's not playing because he's "soft". He's fine and he's not really soft, he just wants out. Basically the same Eric Gordon pulled when he was with the Pelicans.

[FkLA]

Shoe deal/brand and new ambitious agent/unc:

I coined the name Kawhichael and saw his potential in the post/midrange before many did. Still think he can be an awesome point forward too. So you could say I'm a Kawhi fanboy but just doesn't add up. The Spurs are by far the most conservative team with injury management, resting, etc so if they've said he's been ready to go for about 6 months my brain tells me to believe them. Tendinopathy(?) isn't anything structural, it's probably something you can play with if you really want to--which he doesn't.

Kawhi fired his agent and scoffed at the Jordan shoe deal he was offered (rightfully so). I think he really cares about his brand. He's been rocking his klaw gear for years and has made international tours to promote it. He feels the SA market limits his ability to grow his name/brand, imo.

Hate that I called it and that he really is the got I thought he was.

[spursistan]

How in' convenient he got released from his NY Rehab HQ after the Spurs got eliminated and he is now back roaming the country.. .


Apologists and fanboys need to see it for what it is: he quit on this franchise/team. That will never be forgotten or forgiven in my book..

[daslicer]

How in' convenient he got released from his NY Rehab HQ after the Spurs got eliminated and he is now back roaming the country.. .


Apologists and fanboys need to see it for what it is: he quit on this franchise/team. That will never be forgotten or forgiven in my book..

A lot of people can't admit when they have been played. I live by the advice my father told me when I was 18 which is everybody gets played at one point of time in life but acknowledge it when it happens to you so it doesn't happen again.

[Keepin' it real]

Kawhi has never even had 10 assists in a game ... how the is he a top 5 player?

Overrated mental case.

[bklynspursfan]

Kawhi has never even had 10 assists in a game ... how the is he a top 5 player?

Overrated mental case.

Ha.. that's the barometer now?

[MaNu4Tres]

Shoe deal/brand and new ambitious agent/unc:



Hate that I called it and that he really is the got I thought he was.

I warned you and everyone about his Uncle months ago but you scoffed at my information.

Glad you can see the light now.

[Ice009]

I warned you and everyone about his Uncle months ago but you scoffed at my information.

Glad you can see the light now.

So what have you heard currently on the situation from the people you know?

[Keepin' it real]

Ha.. that's the barometer now?

It's one of them, clearly. Especially for a player who touches the ball way more than anyone else.

[alpha_HaZE]

It is so weird that he HAD TO stay in NYC to rehab with his medical team and his "group" most of the Post ASB time frame and he couldn't be spared to be away during the playoffs, but then as soon as the season is over, he NOW can afford to leave his medical group in NYC, spend a couple of weeks in SA and head to his offseason home in San Diego... it's just so really strange the timing of him being released from NYC to continue his rehab elsewhere with no problem...

Good observation, the article pretty much says that Kawhi has looked pretty good in practices and 5 on 5 games.

It seems to me that Kawhi is saying, I don't feel 100%, and the Spurs are like, it's OK will take you at 80%, that's good enough for a deep playoff run.

But speculation is that Kawhi realized that this might be his only opportunity to look to look around for another team.

[gambit1990]

It is so weird that he HAD TO stay in NYC to rehab with his medical team and his "group" most of the Post ASB time frame and he couldn't be spared to be away during the playoffs, but then as soon as the season is over, he NOW can afford to leave his medical group in NYC, spend a couple of weeks in SA and head to his offseason home in San Diego... it's just so really strange the timing of him being released from NYC to continue his rehab elsewhere with no problem...

i hadn't thought about that before... but maybe he's taking a break from rehab because the season is over ?

[gambit1990]

to be a realist... rehabbing would be more important than just sitting on the bench. spurs wouldn't have beat the warriors with him there...

i get that he could've been there for support. but if i was kawhi i'd rather be working on myself to get back to playing than to helplessly watch my team lose.

[blizz]

to be a realist... rehabbing would be more important than just sitting on the bench. spurs wouldn't have beat the warriors with him there...

i get that he could've been there for support. but if i was kawhi i'd rather be working on myself to get back to playing than to helplessly watch my team lose.

It was so important that he could not tear himself away but now that th season is over he can come here for weeks and then fly to SD for who knows what and who knows how long. That’s bull . Now that the season is over, he’s magically good and no longer needs rehab? that dude. He has gotten some horrible advice and I hope he gets exposed for being a and his uncle never gets any traction with his stupid endeavor.

[blizz]

i hadn't thought about that before... but maybe he's taking a break from rehab because the season is over ?

What does that matter? He knew he wasn’t coming back so the season has been over for him for a while now. SG is right. He’s able to get away now because the season is over and he doesn’t need to continue the scharade.

[daledondale]

How in' convenient he got released from his NY Rehab HQ after the Spurs got eliminated and he is now back roaming the country.. .


Apologists and fanboys need to see it for what it is: he quit on this franchise/team. That will never be forgotten or forgiven in my book..

This.