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    Isn't it funny that during the 2014 after finals special, Parker said that he will be still playing when Manu and TD retires and it would be an odd feeling. Both Manu and TD indicated that was the case. It might be Manu the last one standing.
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    Similar to the Leonard situation, I'll have to see Parker's not re-signing to believe it; but I also didn't think he'd be demoted last season. And I found this part of one of the post mortem articles from a few weeks ago interesting . . .

    But in Year 17, Parker's potential return for 2018-19 hasn't been determined as he becomes a free agent on July 1, when his contract expires. Buford told ESPN.com the Spurs will make a decision on Parker at the appropriate time.

    There's also the fact that he was clearly being phased out by the end of last season and the matter of the back court being both terrible and ill-fitting. Being a virtual fringe rotation player, force feed minutes because of who he was and what he means to the franchise, would be unbecoming and an ignominious end to his career.

    There's no need to delay the inevitable and carry on this charade for another season, while simultaneously throwing it in the garbage by not upgrading the back court. It's time to have the difficult conversation with him, hope Ginobili retires and Gay opts out and pursue Evans with the MLE (if they go this route, they'll probably pursue Bradley instead).












    Interesting. Buford has said in an interview that there have been Spurs players in the past that wanted to continue or rejoin, and after tryouts they told the player that it would be unfair to taint their career by continuing to play and they should retire. Perhaps that is the discussion Bufford has had or have hinted at.

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    If you leave San Antonio, TP, go anywhere but Golden State or a Lebron team, tbh. If he had to leave, he may prefer Toronto.

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    My guess: the Spurs have offered him a vet minimum contract and he's shopping around for better deals. It is a real possibility that he moves on if he's already spreading the word around that he's open to leaving the Spurs...
    Sounds like tough talk tbh.

    He almost certainly isn't going to go to a bad team that might give him a 1 year contract for decent money as a mentor/ vet type presence.

    Other teams that would be considered contenders or at least playoff teams may not be willing or may not be financially able to offer more than the vet minimum.

    I doubt that he re-signs for the vet min, or that the Spurs stick to their guns and insist that he signs for $2.4 million. I think they'll meet somewhere in the middle and he re-signs for 2 years, $8 million- more than the vet min, multiple years, and the Spurs don't break the bank to bring him back or see him go to another team.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing him go and paid more somewhere else. Also, he has been a defensive liability for us since '14. I am sure Kawhi would benefit from a guard that can run the pick n roll, play defense and shoot the three. And Tony can do only one of those things. Which is why we went after Kyrie so hard last summer. In retrospect we should have traded for Donovan Mitc , but since Kawhi happened, no-one wants to trade draft picks with the Spurs.
    .... so pretty much an all star.

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    .... so pretty much an all star.
    I like to think of it as an upgrade from 3 and D. Dejounte is a three-point shot away from being that player. Derrick White can run the pick n roll and shoot the three.

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    Yes please!

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    Likely Spurs told him they are waiving him so there is no cap hold and therefore can only offer him the min.

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    Similar to the Leonard situation, I'll have to see Parker's not re-signing to believe it; but I also didn't think he'd be demoted last season. And I found this part of one of the post mortem articles from a few weeks ago interesting . . .

    But in Year 17, Parker's potential return for 2018-19 hasn't been determined as he becomes a free agent on July 1, when his contract expires. Buford told ESPN.com the Spurs will make a decision on Parker at the appropriate time.

    There's also the fact that he was clearly being phased out by the end of last season and the matter of the back court being both terrible and ill-fitting. Being a virtual fringe rotation player, force feed minutes because of who he was and what he means to the franchise, would be unbecoming and an ignominious end to his career.

    There's no need to delay the inevitable and carry on this charade for another season, while simultaneously throwing it in the garbage by not upgrading the back court. It's time to have the difficult conversation with him, hope Ginobili retires and Gay opts out and pursue Evans with the MLE (if they go this route, they'll probably pursue Bradley instead).












    Would love to have Bradley

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    Yep. After Spurs were knocked out, Parker said he will be back. Now this. This means the Spurs said they are looking at strengthening other areas and cannot commit. Surely a 3rd string pg option is on the table for the min. I cannot imagine Spurs not offering something.
    Cheers. I agree. If he's willing to take the min and a vastly diminished role. But TP's ego may not allow, especially as he's seen an older Manu maintain a vital role.

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    if he had to sign for another team I hope he signs for the dubs, him grabbing an additional ring would be nice tbh

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    I’ve always said, spurs should have worked more in trying to develop Parker’s shooting from three about four years ago. I knew once he would lose his quickness he wouldn’t have much to offer. His passing and playmaking is average at best for a PG

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    Interesting. Buford has said in an interview that there have been Spurs players in the past that wanted to continue or rejoin, and after tryouts they told the player that it would be unfair to taint their career by continuing to play and they should retire. Perhaps that is the discussion Bufford has had or have hinted at.

    Yeah, but it would obviously be that much more difficult to do with Parker. I think the compromise will be a 1 year contract, where he essentially has to reprove himself a rotation player to earn a 2 year contract the following off season and reach his stated goal of 20 season.


    Would love to have Bradley
    Evans would be preferable. A Bradley-Murray back court would be severely lacking in play making. With Mills as the 3rd guard, they'd also still have 2 small (non dynamic) guards in the rotation.

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    I’ve always said, spurs should have worked more in trying to develop Parker’s shooting from three about four years ago. I knew once he would lose his quickness he wouldn’t have much to offer. His passing and playmaking is average at best for a PG
    They did try many years ago having Chip England work with him on his jump shot. I'm convinced some guys can't become good shooters.

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    They did try many years ago having Chip England work with him on his jump shot. I'm convinced some guys can't become good shooters.
    Parker's 3 has improved a lot! Of course he wasn't going to become a pure shooter at the 3 at the NBA level at this point in his career. Parker's inability to shoot lately has really been more about his health.

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    Parker's 3 has improved a lot! Of course he wasn't going to become a pure shooter at the 3 at the NBA level at this point in his career. Parker's inability to shoot lately has really been more about his health.
    It's really his loss of speed. Players can guard him now, especially point guards. He can't get in the lane and create havoc either.

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    It's really his loss of speed. Players can guard him now, especially point guards. He can't get in the lane and create havoc either.
    Yep. Unfortunately it's gray area with Parker. On one hand if a team wants I'm sure he could contribute off the bench but at the same time he is just another veterans who is hanging on too late.

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    They did try many years ago having Chip England work with him on his jump shot. I'm convinced some guys can't become good shooters.
    I know they did, and it did improve in the 18-20 ft range, but he was not allowed to shoot threes hardly at all. Pop wanted him getting in the lane which was his ultimate advantage and that made sense.... however had he been given a little more green light I think he could have extended his career a little more

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    The Spurs are no longer the Spurs, so I don't see a problem with Tony spending his last couple years getting paid better. Wouldn't hurt his legacy here at all IMO, he's been a rock for us for a long time. As has been mentioned, the Mills deal really ed up this entire franchise.
    Mills is being paid almost a third of the max. For the production he gives, he's 100% earned it especially when you look at the other players in the 10-13 mill range for this year. Jeremy Lin, JR Smith, Monta Ellis.

    No one's going to say that Tony deserved to play over Mills or Murray. You don't get minutes for what you did 10 years ago. Dude's a third string guard wherever he goes

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    Tony’s going to have a sad dose of reality when no team is willing to sign him.

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    TP joining Dancing with the Stars in 3,2,1....

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    Tony’s going to have a sad dose of reality when no team is willing to sign him.
    Kind of like David Lee. He opted out and found no one wanted him. And his last season was more productive than Tony's.

    Still, wish the man nothing but the best. Want him to retire a Spurs, no matter when that occurs.

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    Tony’s going to have a sad dose of reality when no team is willing to sign him.
    Don’t bet on it. Some team will be stupid enough to bid against itself by offering a handsome multi-year deal at 12:01.

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    My guess is the Spurs told him two year contract and he wants three. It would be strange seeing him in a different jersey like Dream as a Raptor.

    Yep. Dream and Ewing were the weirdest players in different uni’s I ever saw. Just wasn’t right.




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