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    Mills has positive value; I hate his deal, but I’m telling people he has positive value. If SA wanted to, they could GET something in return for trading Mills. Not a first most likely, but a player of value or 2nd round pick(s). Mills contract is not viewed as bad around the league.

    He was not amazing or anything obviously, but on a team with no Kawhi with lead guard minutes/responsibilities he did pretty damn well and compared to what some other “shooters” make? It’s not a bad deal from a trade perspective even though it’s not a good deal for SA’s roster.
    I think a team like the Raptors or Philly would want to get a guy like Mills. For all his faults he is a great team mate and when his shot is on can be a difference maker. Add on his Playoff experience and I think a team like Philly would like to add him in the Kawhi trade.

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    Mills still has appeal by being a great enthusiastic guy and a good citizen for any coach, but he doesn't pass the eyeball test for just about anyone. I would be stunned if he gets traded. Hopefully some stupid GM loves the guy.

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    Mills still has appeal by being a great enthusiastic guy and a good citizen for any coach, but he doesn't pass the eyeball test for just about anyone. I would be stunned if he gets traded. Hopefully some stupid GM loves the guy.
    I think if Mills is not traded its because SA doesn’t want to trade him; not becaue a team won’t take him.

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    you know you lost your argument when you try to make a bet to show how confident you are in your point.

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    If you were confident, you would have done it. People need to stop talking about things they don't believe in.

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    I think if Mills is not traded its because SA doesn’t want to trade him; not becaue a team won’t take him.
    why would't they want to trade him.

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    If you were confident, you would have done it. People need to stop talking about things they don't believe in.
    proving my point, tbh

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    I doubt they'll look to trade him, but hypothetically speaking something like this would probably be the only hope . . .

    Gasol (2/$32M; 23.5M guaranteed) and 18 for Fournier (3/$51M)? Not sure I'd do it, but it would kill 2 birds with 1 stone: They'd get out from Gasol and fill a need in the back court, essentially redistributing their 3rd highest salary in the process.
    They could then use the MLE on a center, such as O'Quinn (p/o), Dedmon (p/o), Nogueira (RFA), Len or Baynes.


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    why would't they want to trade him.
    Because they value him, TP/Manu could be gone, Kawhi could be gone and White/Murray are still very young.

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    He is good just should not be starting or getting more then 20 minutes a game

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    Mills still has appeal by being a great enthusiastic guy and a good citizen for any coach, but he doesn't pass the eyeball test for just about anyone. I would be stunned if he gets traded. Hopefully some stupid GM loves the guy.
    Wtf? Look at the nba talent. There are like 3 guys that have an all around game. Mills is in the entertainment business. He can hit a three. He will stay in the nba until he cant.

    People like shane larkin, nick young, play. There are literally stars in the league that cant shoot or defend. The best players in the nba travel and carry every possession. Its not about fundamentals. Its preteen entertainment.

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    Because they value him, TP/Manu could be gone, Kawhi could be gone and White/Murray are still very young.
    Also, Pop and RC consider him a shepherd of Spurs culture to the next generation of players after Tim/Manu/TP. For better or worse. Gasol is valuable to them in this way too. Even if Kawhi and Aldridge were to stay, neither are really locker room leaders

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    proving my point, tbh
    He would welch anyway.

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    Id take any of them of gasol tbh

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    If you were confident, you would have done it. People need to stop talking about things they don't believe in.
    And bet on things they intend to Welch on
    Its meaningless fake tough act

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    I do not blame Leonard if he wants out due to this franchise failing to put a few long term sidekicks next to him like they did with Duncan. You can call Duncan loyal all you want, but he would have bolted the Spurs if that storm of an old 2001 roster didn’t show immediate signs of significant improvement. Gasol/Mills contracts were a few of PATFO massive ups.

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    Kyrie/Hayward for Kawhi/Gasol/18th pick

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    I do not blame Leonard if he wants out due to this franchise failing to put a few long term sidekicks next to him like they did with Duncan. You can call Duncan loyal all you want, but he would have bolted the Spurs if that storm of an old 2001 roster didn’t show immediate signs of significant improvement. Gasol/Mills contracts were a few of PATFO massive ups.

    You may not agree with it, but the team did go out and get the most coveted free agent that summer in LMA.

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    Meh, I think we’re getting to a point where pau’s Contract looks like an asset because of its quasi expiring nature. Strictly hypothetical, say Minni needs to shed some cash they can send us deing and attach a pick to it. Or, if your the spurs seeing that the next two years are a rebuild, maybe to take back the last two years of Noah’s deal for a pick.

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    I do not blame Leonard if he wants out due to this franchise failing to put a few long term sidekicks next to him like they did with Duncan. You can call Duncan loyal all you want, but he would have bolted the Spurs if that storm of an old 2001 roster didn’t show immediate signs of significant improvement. Gasol/Mills contracts were a few of PATFO massive ups.
    By 2001, Tim had already committed, long term, like 7 years. The Orlando summer was 2000.

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    We would have to give up a first round pick to get rid of Gasol. No trade with Kawhi would involve salary dumping Gasol. Why would we want to use Kawhi to get salary relief? We want him to get us young players and picks that could develop into great players. Gasol just gets us more one year contracts and free cap space...so we can sign no one because good free agents don't come to play for lottery teams. No reason to salary dump Gasol at this point.

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    By 2001, Tim had already committed, long term, like 7 years. The Orlando summer was 2000.
    Nope, Duncan was a free agent the Summer of 2003 where he signed that 7 year deal. He basically told the Spurs they were on the clock after the 2001 sweep and basically had 2 years to put better pieces around him including some long term sidekicks. They came through. It doesn’t look like the Spurs are going to come through for Kawhi though. We can call him out all we want, but this team got him Aldridge and what else??? Aldridge is also about to be 32 years old. Where are the other young sidekicks? Murray?? Bertans? ing Kyle Anderson? GMAFB.

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    Nope, Duncan was a free agent the Summer of 2003 where he signed that 7 year deal. He basically told the Spurs they were on the clock after the 2001 sweep and basically had 2 years to put better pieces around him including some long term sidekicks. They came through. It doesn’t look like the Spurs are going to come through for Kawhi though. We can call him out all we want, but this team got him Aldridge and what else??? Aldridge is also about to be 32 years old. Where are the other young sidekicks? Murray?? Bertans? ing Kyle Anderson? GMAFB.
    So I guess Bron is leaving CLE. What young side kicks does he have? I guess Harden is leaving HOU. What young side kicks does he have? I guess Giannis is leaving MIL. What young sidekicks does he have?

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    SA built a team that is a legit WCF+ contender and win-now ready. Even without Kawhi, SA built a team that was a playoff team in a very good Western Conference and that was with a lot going wrong: Danny declining, TP/Manu declining, Rudy new and injured, etc...

    It’s not hard to think that SA could easily upgrade those areas and that with Kawhi they would have a legit shot at WCF+. TP/Manu could be gone and replaced with better players so that improves things. Rudy could be out and they could sign free agents that fit better. Danny could be traded or opt out, etc...the path for improvement is there and they already have a damn good team with Kawhi.

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    So I guess Bron is leaving CLE. What young side kicks does he have? I guess Harden is leaving HOU. What young side kicks does he have? I guess Giannis is leaving MIL. What young sidekicks does he have?
    None in Cleveland and they won’t ring. The Bucks are still young, so I’m not burying them just yet. Seriously, come back with a better rebuttal than that. Duncan had 2 young all-star sidekicks which basically is the reason the Spurs overall have 4 more championships. Leonard has an aging Aldridge/Rudy Gay. Then the team overpays for Mills/Gasol. Is this really how you treat your franchise player? Is that really the best they can do for him? I’m sorry but that’s unaccepatable. Leonard should have 2 young sidekicks with a solid supporting cast by his side and contending for championships for the next decade. I honestly don’t fault him for being pissed if this was truly the best they could do.

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    Shhhhhh.

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