Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Pavlov]

Yes I got my answer you cowering little pussy

You say that as you dodge the pending question about your own article a fourth time you cowering little pussy

[Pavlov]

He's going to dodge 21's question too.

[TSA]

Sorry, TSA -- question pending.

What is your conspiracy theory here, TSA?

Not every article comes with an accompanying conspiracy theory. Clapper said if authority was usurped to unmask it would concern him. Sometimes it just is what it is Pavlov.

[TSA]

He's going to dodge 21's question too.

21's question and link were provided yesterday. He's good with the search function I'm sure he'll find it shortly.

[Pavlov]

Not every article comes with an accompanying conspiracy theory. Clapper said if authority was usurped to unmask it would concern him. Sometimes it just is what it is Pavlov.

So it's not actually an issue that's come back up (lol October) and has no importance at all.

Thank you for admitting that.

[Pavlov]

21's question and link were provided yesterday. He's good with the search function I'm sure he'll find it shortly.

I'm thinking he read the article you linked and concluded it didn't say what you claimed it said.

[TSA]

I'm thinking he read the article you linked and concluded it didn't say what you claimed it said.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...fb62b18e411595

you can read it for yourself

[Pavlov]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...fb62b18e411595

you can read it for yourself

Actually I cannot.

You have a paid subscription to theaustralian.com.au?

[ducks]

Actually I cannot.

You have a paid subscription to theaustralian.com.au?

lol expecting others to pay for your things

[TSA]

“He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was.’’

"And to stress the point, he says the gin measure was typically mean — just 25ml, which is normal for a London bar, not the sort of lavish pour one might offer friends at Stoke Lodge, the Australian government’s residence near Hyde Park."

"But it was over that single short drink, accompanied by Erika Thompson, a counsellor at the high commission, late one afternoon in May 2016 that Downer met George Papadopoulos, then an adviser in Donald Trump’s campaign team."

[Pavlov]

“He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was.’’

"And to stress the point, he says the gin measure was typically mean — just 25ml, which is normal for a London bar, not the sort of lavish pour one might offer friends at Stoke Lodge, the Australian government’s residence near Hyde Park."

"But it was over that single short drink, accompanied by Erika Thompson, a counsellor at the high commission, late one afternoon in May 2016 that Downer met George Papadopoulos, then an adviser in Donald Trump’s campaign team."

So he wasn't even drunk when he bragged the Trump campaign had damaging information on Clinton?

ok

[TSA]

Actually I cannot.

You have a paid subscription to theaustralian.com.au?

No I just googled the article and read it.

[Pavlov]

No I just googled the article and read it.

I get a paywall when I click your link.

[TSA]

So he wasn't even drunk when he bragged the Trump campaign had damaging information on Clinton?

ok

He never bragged the Trump campaign had anything on Clinton

I guess you'd know that if you could figure out how to read the article

[Pavlov]

He never bragged the Trump campaign had anything on Clinton

“He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging."

I guess you'd know that if you could figure out how to read the article

You're free to tell me how you did it without subscribing.

Or you could just tell me how having material damaging to Clinton is not having material damaging to Clinton.

[TSA]

this makes no sense considering they're asking for "use immunity"

use immunity wouldn't stop them from charging him based on info they already have (and what went into IG report)...

No deal McCabe

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It is true that, on the surface, the statute provides only “use immunity.” Technically, this does not shield the witness from prosecution; it only prevents the immunized testimony from being used against the witness — either directly (being presented against him at trial) or indirectly (as leads to locate evidence that can be used to prosecute him). In practical effect, however, use immunity can easily become transactional or even blanket immunity. It is often difficult, if not impossible, to prove that evidence purportedly unrelated to the immunized testimony was not traceable to it in some way. Consequently, if the Justice Department tries to prosecute him, the immunized witness will argue that the case is based on the immunized testimony. It is easier for a court to throw out such a case than try to sort out what is tainted and what is not.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ary-committee/

[spurraider21]

spurraider the link to the interview with Downer in the Australian is in here

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/27/do...opoulos-trump/

Papadopoulos wasn’t drunk

so your issue is that the NYT said "during a night of heavy drinking"... while this article/interview says that Downer doesn't think Pap was drunk and that they spoke over 1 drink (though for all we know, pap had drinks prior to their meeting)

and never said anything to Downer about dirt on Hillary or her emails

“He didn’t say dirt; he said material that could be damaging to her

oh

Downer said he felt the information “seemed quite interesting” and “was worth reporting.”

Papadopoulos, an energy consultant who joined the campaign in March 2016, had other discussions about Clinton information during the campaign.


He told the FBI back on Jan. 26, 2017, about a conversation he had on April 26, 2016, with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese professor. Papadopoulos said Mifsud claimed to have been in contact with Russian government officials who said they had “dirt” on Clinton in the form of “thousands” of her emails.

[TSA]

You're free to tell me how you did it without subscribing.

Or you could just tell me how having material damaging to Clinton is not having material damaging to Clinton.

I literally just googled it and opened the link. I'm using firefox if that helps.

The claim was no dirt, no emails, and not drunk. I don't need to tell you anything about damaging material.

[spurraider21]

No deal McCabe

===========

It is true that, on the surface, the statute provides only “use immunity.” Technically, this does not shield the witness from prosecution; it only prevents the immunized testimony from being used against the witness — either directly (being presented against him at trial) or indirectly (as leads to locate evidence that can be used to prosecute him). In practical effect, however, use immunity can easily become transactional or even blanket immunity. It is often difficult, if not impossible, to prove that evidence purportedly unrelated to the immunized testimony was not traceable to it in some way. Consequently, if the Justice Department tries to prosecute him, the immunized witness will argue that the case is based on the immunized testimony. It is easier for a court to throw out such a case than try to sort out what is tainted and what is not.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ary-committee/

except the IG repot has already been published, which mccarthy himself says lays out a strong case of making false statements. so yes, it could be very easily traced back to the already existing contents of the IG report.

[Pavlov]

I literally just googled it and opened the link. I'm using firefox if that helps.

The daily caller article or the actual Australian article you said you googled?

The claim was no dirt, no emails, and not drunk. I don't need to tell you anything about damaging material.

So basically it doesn't change anything at all.

OK.

[TSA]

so your issue is that the NYT said "during a night of heavy drinking"... while this article/interview says that Downer doesn't think Pap was drunk and that they spoke over 1 drink (though for all we know, pap had drinks prior to their meeting)



oh

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You do realize the below is the author adding more to the story and that is not Downer speaking.

"Papadopoulos, an energy consultant who joined the campaign in March 2016, had other discussions about Clinton information during the campaign.


He told the FBI back on Jan. 26, 2017, about a conversation he had on April 26, 2016, with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese professor. Papadopoulos said Mifsud claimed to have been in contact with Russian government officials who said they had “dirt” on Clinton in the form of “thousands” of her emails."

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Downer states that Papadopoulos never said what the damaging information was. “He didn’t say dirt; he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was.”

[spurraider21]

"he didnt say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her"

oh, so you're upset that NYT took the liberty referring to "material that could be damaging to her" as dirt

[spurraider21]

why woulnd't downer have contacted the NYT if they screwed up the story so bad?

[Pavlov]

You know what, TSA -- just post the entire Downer interview from the Australian site.

There's no reason for you not to at this point.

[TSA]

The daily caller article or the actual Australian article you said you googled?

The actual article.

So basically it doesn't change anything at all.

OK.

Never said it did. spurraider kept asking for a link and then you decided to chime in so I gave you both the relevant quotes.