How many are you going to house with you?
So what is a mild fine
100 200 5000?
How many are you going to house with you?
It is wrong for them to come here and claim asylum when 80 percent do not qualify costing money
Court time judges housing and food
You're not a fan of accountability, at all and that doesn't equate to being of higher moral fiber.
Done and done. The parents risk their children's well being by breaking the law (and all the associated risk) and you think the offenders shouldn't have to face the loss part of the risk equation.Endangered children being forced to illegally cross the border should be taken away from their stupid parents.
Not really too inclined to keep answering your questions, if the courtesy is not returned. I thought my question was pretty straightforward. Even so, yes, that is the stated intent, to punish parents for breaking the law. Yes, keep the family together. That is the moral thing go do. Even if you don't care what is moral, it simply costs us less than paying caregivers to step in for the parents.
Let's add a bit of information in that separating children from parents and keeping them separate is known to cause lasting psychological harm to children, especially young ones.
So:
Is it evil to drag a blind, crying six year old boy from his mother, in order to punish them both for the crime of crossing a border?
Kids die all the time in the USA
Kids die all the time
The people coming here they say is because they are scared they feel they will die there
USA does not have to take care of the world!
I feel bad for those countries but if we keep it up we could easily be a third world country
I’m not saying I don’t feel for these kids, their situation sucks. But if this deters illegal immigration, then at least there’s something good coming out of it. Too many people go missing and/or die trying to illegally cross the border. any parent who would willingly risk their child’s life by taking that path.
I’m all for legal immigration, I’m all for allowing refugees, I’m all for relaxing current immigration laws to let more people in. I think people who are already here illegally should be given a path to legal status without risk of deportation, if they go through the proper channels. But there absolutely should be a zero tolerance policy towards illegal immigration from now on, which protects the migrants more than anything.
More failed moral reasoning from someone not quite smart enough to understand the failure. I can explain it to you, again, but I can't understand it for you.
Taking children from their native country and forcing them to come to the USA is not psychologically challenging ?
the poor kids
muh beer money
Your explanations seem to come with copious amounts of hyperbole accompanied by misleading imagery. If you have a real point you'd not need to be so dishonest about it.
Kids die trying to cross the boarder illegally all the time
They lie it is only a few miles not that hot
I do think accountability is a good thing. It is the only thing that makes human societies work. Good morals comes from doing the right thing when no one is looking, IMO. Not sure what you are getting at here, other than deflect from my main point.
Not really a sign of someone who knows they are standing on firm rhetorical ground.
More failed moral reasoning from someone not quite smart enough to understand the failure. I can explain it to you, again, but I can't understand it for you.
Your explanations seem to come with copious amounts of hyperbole accompanied by misleading imagery. If you have a real point you'd not need to be so dishonest about it.
If I find a kid injured I call for help but i do not take them home and feed them
It is called kidnapping
so much better to leave them in a cage
Good morals comes from doing instead of saying. People who are concerned based on moral principles should have the wherewithal to act on it. If you don't, if you see yourself as some arbiter of morality without agency to act, then you're part of the problem. The civilized world has enough idle opinions.
What about the kids their dad has when patrolling the country and the illegal shot the agent.
What about those kids psychology ?
When you don't have any decent arguments, this is what you do. Fall back on personal attacks, as if that means your position is somehow not inferior.
I accept your white flag.
Orange .
See, here's the thing. Morality is, at least the non-obvious, decency issues, subjective. You're stating that your "take" on the issue is the definitive judgement on it and you're not any authority to say.
I don't think it "evil". It would only be evil if it was permanent and reunion with the family isn't being halted although the reunion location isn't where you would like it to be, which would be the reason they were separated in the first place.
I think it sucks, but it's the result of what happens when you do something wrong/illegal. It's cause and effect and it's the parents' fault the kids are taken away since they choose to put their kids in jeopardy.
You deny any self-accountability on these offenders and then find the end result to be "evil". You can feel how you wish, but the way you describe the penalty is just that- your description. But you personally judging it that way doesn't make it evil and doesn't make anyone less humane for agreeing with the end result and doesn't make you a person of higher moral fiber just because you see something that way.
RandomGuy is it immoral not to put your money where your mouth is?
why not give them money to help them.
again the usa can not help everyone. Kids suffer all the time from parents choices even the legal parents here in the states.
If only the US stopped giving trillion dollar tax cuts to the super rich. How much welfare do THEY need?
so you think the rich should pay for the illegals children and parents so they do not have to work and be with them
if you can not afford kids do not have sex and not get kids!
if where you live in the third world that be a kid would be bad DO NOT PRODUCE KIDS
IF your spouce is bad and you think your kids would suffer DO NOT PRODUCE KIDS
That was a good, thoughtful response. Thank you. I have a lot to get done today, and need to get back to it. This deserves a response, and I will bookmark it and try to get back to it in the next few days.
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