How the Spurs overplayed their hand and alienated Kawhi Leonard

[RD2191]

Leonard is a massive got, I’m glad Pop manu and parked called dat nigg out.. hope he dies tbh soon

Spoken like a true Porker fan.

[RD2191]

You’re delusional, if he doesn’t care about the money why he turn down $20 million shoe deal.

Because there's a difference between being money hungry and knowing your worth.

[Pavlov]

It's hard to see any team offering Leonard a super max without any evidence he's over his injury, and even the su ion he was sandbagging is enough for any team to balk.

[Brazil]

Spoken like a true Porker fan.

Spoken like a true cuck and player fan got tbh.. go root for Dallas or Houston both are in Texas and full of Mexican bra...

[spursistan]

This writer's research was very poor, he clearly hasn't followed the timeline of events..

I've been anti-Pop for years(for basketball reasons, not because I'm a Trump like some of the posters in this thread), but I think people are over-analyzing this situation..

Kawhi wants the supermax and/or wants to play in LA and his uncle and his team want him to play in LA..there's nothing more to it, everything points to that..all this about misdiagnosis or not liking the roster is silly and agenda-based..it's about money and/or location..

Their team only has 1 client IIRC, it's Kawhi, that's where their livelihood comes from..getting the supermax is probably the main goal, but playing in LA and reviving the pathetic Lakers is the goldmine on the other side.

Cosign ..

[Brazil]

Kawhi is likely healthy for months now.. he just did not want to play anymore before signing his fat contract.. that is all. Pop, Manu and Parker told him you got

Then you have dumb s like Roberto defending this sucker.. Stockholm syndrom

[Chinook]

I wonder how long it'll be before it comes out that Magic has been hardcore tampering. I don't think it's explicitly illegal to talk to Uncle Dennis, but that would so violate the spirit of the rule that I think it would warrant punishment.

[JPB]

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. And we'll wait and see. Trust me, kawhi will have success wherever he goes, he's that good. And for the millionth time, kawhi doesn't care about the money.

How old is this clown ? Please tell me he's 12...

"wrong, wrong, wrong!!! for the millionth time !!!!" my idole is super good and he doesn't care about the money, nah !

I've seen quite a few ridiculous fanbois in my life but this hilarious asslicker is fighting for supremacy.

And of course, because these kind of freaks really can't see how ridiculous they are, they always call others for their own meltdowns...

Freud would feast on these no lifers.

[RD2191]

Spoken like a true cuck and player fan got tbh.. go root for Dallas or Houston both are in Texas and full of Mexican bra...

It's embarrassing that an old man like you is so easily triggered. You're softer than Porker.

[RD2191]

How old is this clown ? Please tell me he's 12...

"wrong, wrong, wrong!!! for the millionth time !!!!" my idole is super good and he doesn't care about the money, nah !

I've seen quite a few ridiculous fanbois in my life but this hilarious asslicker is fighting for supremacy.

And of course, because these kind of freaks really can't see how ridiculous they are, they always call others for their own meltdowns...

Freud would feast on these no lifers.

Oh look, another French boi, speaking of player fans

[KimmyGib]

Kawhi wants the supermax and/or wants to play in LA and his uncle and his team want him to play in LA..there's nothing more to it, everything points to that..all this about misdiagnosis or not liking the roster is silly and agenda-based..it's about money and/or location..

Does this imply Kawhi was basically refusing to play an entire season while under contract?

[RD2191]

Porker fans exposing themselves as player fans Taking the bait, too easy.

[K...]

Porker fans exposing themselves as player fans Taking the bait, too easy.

Had you been following the spurs this year, you'd know porker is played out and everyone agrees that he should retire. He's already a deep bench sub. The new whipping boys are kyle, pau, and your baby kawhi.

Rob, just admit the situation is over your head. You weren't here to about the season, you lack the standing to lecture us! Parker is a hero for calling out the mute.

[RD2191]

Had you been following the spurs this year, you'd know porker is played out and everyone agrees that he should retire. He's already a deep bench sub. The new whipping boys are kyle, pau, and your baby kawhi.

Rob, just admit the situation is over your head. You weren't here to about the season, you lack the standing to lecture us! Parker is a hero for calling out the mute.

This isn't so much about Parker as it is about Porker fans calling Kawhi fans player fans.

[HarlemHeat37]

Does this imply Kawhi was basically refusing to play an entire season while under contract?

I think he was definitely hurt in the off-season and probably to start the season, it seems like everybody agrees with that and there wasn't any real bad blood at the time..they gave him time to figure things out, at least from a mental standpoint..

It's very evident that he sat out the 2nd half of the season for non-basketball reasons, though, that isn't even debatable IMO..everything we have heard these past 2 weeks adds up, it's a money issue, SA is reluctant to supermax him..there's NO WAY that Parker and Ginobili make those public comments(which they wouldn't have made without Pop co-signing) if that wasn't the case, it doesn't make any sense to jeopardize the team's relationship with its franchise cornerstone simply over a dispute over the diagnosis of an injury..the only reason that narrative got any play was because the Isiah Thomas situation(which was very rare, too) was so fresh in everybody's mind..

IMO the only consistent factors here are 1- Supermax/money dispute 2- As Woj reported, Kawhi's team is very disorganized and constantly changing their story

It's not a coincidence that Kawhi's team leaked that they were working things out and a meeting was imminent to discuss money, but then all of a sudden it's leaked that he is going to demand a trade

If the Spurs and Kawhi had agreed on the money, I bet none of this would have happened IMO..it's all been leverage game since then..misdiagnosis of injury, doesn't like the roster, mad about the way Pop is approaching things, furious that Parker and Ginobili made comments through the media

All narratives to save face, they are fully aware of how the public reacts to athletes regarding money disputes..I mostly disagree with the way fans view athletes and their money(especially in the NBA and NFL), I find it strange that they generally side with management over the employees, but I understand, I suppose..

[Clipper Nation]

Had you been following the spurs this year, you'd know porker is played out and everyone agrees that he should retire. He's already a deep bench sub.

And yet you player fans still on Manu at every opportunity when he's older than Porker and still productive in the NBA.

Rob, just admit the situation is over your head. You weren't here to about the season, you lack the standing to lecture us! Parker is a hero for calling out the mute.

"Hero"

Calling out Kawhi was an ego move from Porker, that is all. He wanted the attention.

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Well that's one side of the story....the other side is that he had a career altering injury and wants to get the bigmax over the spurs concerns of durability. The spurs can't give the super max to a greg oden.we are not portland. Sometimes you have to take old yeller, your faithful pup, and put a bullet in him. I respect my team for holding the line and not giving into bullying and leaks.

Kawhi could have appeared in friendly press. Because he didn't, it left pop, parkers , etc with the bag. Either kawhi is an adult and can handle his , or he's a baby and the team should pay him less.

[BSfromTX]

Kawhi is likely healthy for months now.. he just did not want to play anymore before signing his fat contract.. that is all. Pop, Manu and Parker told him you got

Then you have dumb s like Roberto defending this sucker.. Stockholm syndrom

This... and wanting supermax to boot. I don't blame him either if that is the case. I also don't care if he wants to play for LA... just don't look for any favors and don't piss and moan if you don't get the supermax. Its what happens when you start playing these games.


All signs point to Leonards camp playing this the wrong way and Spurs look to be clean so far despite what crap Jabari spews

[Spurs9]

Didn't Parker have a similar injury that was way worse and he came back pretty quick from it?

[HarlemHeat37]

The Parker/Manu narratives are specially stupid IMO..I'm sure Kawhi was annoyed by their comments, but Manu is likely retiring and TP is a Free Agent..as much as we joke on here about Pop's favoritism, there's no ing way he's telling Kawhi that he's going to choose an ancient TP over him

Pop is 70 and may be out of touch with some of these new players, but he isn't stupid, he knows talent wins in this league..

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Pop and his culture is very toxic. Not a good fit anymore.

[Spursmania]

Rifts and misunderstandings happen on every team. Spurs are known for being conservative with injuries and playtime. They wouldn't purposely alienate Kawhi or play him if they thought he was still injured. If there was a problem or a disconnect Kawhi should of confronted the issue head on and worked it out within the organization. You don't let rumors abound and not do anything to control them. And, if he couldn't man up and handle this situation right, I doubt he'll have much success on other organizations who aren't as patient or forgiving. I think Uncle Dennis had a malignant hand in this. It's a really unfortunate situation for all the SA fans and fans who admired Kawhi and still do. In the end, if he wanted to stay, you know Pop would work things out with him. But if he wants out he will use this as an excuse when he should just be truthful and say he wants a big market and Uncle Dennis wants to make him the next LeBron.

[Brazil]

It's embarrassing that an old man like you is so easily triggered. You're softer than Porker.

That’s rich my kawhi mean Parker calling out my boy I’ll continue rooting for him

[BSfromTX]

Rifts and misunderstandings happen on every team. Spurs are known for being conservative with injuries and playtime. They wouldn't purposely alienate Kawhi or play him if they thought he was still injured. If there was a problem or a disconnect Kawhi should of confronted the issue head on and worked it out within the organization. You don't let rumors abound and not do anything to control them. And, if he couldn't man up and handle this situation right, I doubt he'll have much success on other organizations who aren't as patient or forgiving. I think Uncle Dennis had a malignant hand in this. It's a really unfortunate situation for all the SA fans and fans who admired Kawhi and still do. In the end, if he wanted to stay, you know Pop would work things out with him. But if he wants out he will use this as an excuse when he should just be truthful and say he wants a big market and Uncle Dennis wants to make him the next LeBron.

Exactly...be a stand up guy and set things straight.

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A bunch fanboys are embarrassing themselves semen-shielding for this got till the bitter end. It is like they have never had Tim Duncan..

Truly pathetic scenes..