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    Lou Williams 31 years old, destined to be a good player on a bad team, or a bench player. Harris is 25 and still has the potential with good coaching to be a top 10 player.
    Nah, Harris is what he is, just a younger Rudy Gay.

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    At the very least, assuming they trade Kawhi and get picks, the Spurs will finally have some young players and athletes to watch...







    In Austin while Pop plays Forbes and Pau

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    Pop HAS been that petty in the past. When Hank Egan retired only to later show up on Mike Brown's staff, Pop refused to even talk to him for YEARS.

    The man directly responsible for Pop's whole life and career was cut out savagely for the betrayal of changing his mind about retirement and helping out a young coach he had worked with.

    We need that Pop back. The man with fire in his gut, the man with principle.
    Pop's personality has changed dramatically in the past 5 years alone..

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    KD and TV money has ed the NBA and its product. And these current star players who believe the world worships them and the ground they walk on .. em. Burn the product.

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    Please, no more tweets from Jabari.
    This x 100. Mother er is a snake in the grass and has been pulling strings for Kawhi's camp all along.

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    This x 100. Mother er is a snake in the grass and has been pulling strings for Kawhi's camp all along.

    He's got the same mentality that as all these en led kids. Get they can from the "slave" owners, get there money ... Owners only make the money when they sell, they aren't getting rich by year to year proceeds. They made there wealth outside of the league.

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    Nah, Harris is what he is, just a younger Rudy Gay.
    Huh? Harris is only 25 and is coming off a career year. One of the best 3-pt and midrange shooters in the league already and has great work ethic. He’s already better than Gay ever was.

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    Sit him, we've had a good run. If we trade him to the Lakers it sets a precedent. Being a shouldn't let you get your way, the Spurs are ed regardless.
    This, and nothing but this. At least if LA is his wish.

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    Huh? Harris is only 25 and is coming off a career year. One of the best 3-pt and midrange shooters in the league already and has great work ethic. He’s already better than Gay ever was.
    God damn, I honestly had no idea he was 25, seems like he's been in the league forever. Still, last 4 years he's put up #s on bad/mediocre teams, he is no ideal centerpiece in a trade for Kawhi. Y'all sleep on Brandon Ingram far too much IMO, also Jaylen brown we're all underestimating as well.

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    This, and nothing but this. At least if LA is his wish.

    As as much as I would love to do this just to teach Kawhi’s ass a lesson, you absolutely have to get a return for Kawhi, period. Spurs are not and will not ever be a FA destination. We have to build through the draft and via trades. Getting young talent and/or draft picks for Kawhi is imperative.

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    The Spurs know what is going on, have for a while, unlike Leonard’s amateur hour team, aren’t showing their hand.

    Star players sign free agent contracts with different teams all the time. Players ask for trades all the time.

    What doesn’t happen all the time is for players with two years left on their contracts to fake injuries and sit out the season while collecting $19 million, then demanding an immediate trade to a specific destination and fabricating bull reasons why.

    If Kawhi just wanted to play for the Lakers, he could play out his contract and sign there in 2019. If he just wanted out of SA, he’d accept a trade to a number of teams.

    I think the plan was to back the Spurs into a corner and be so cancerous that they’d be glad just to get rid of him for Ingram, Kuzma, picks, and Luol Deng’s contract, so the Lakers would still have enough cap space to add LeBron and Paul George too. As though the Spurs would be suckered into helping build the next superteam, like some cucked husband settling for whatever tchotchkes his wife lets him take, while giving her the house, cars, bank accounts and half his paycheck in the divorce settlement because “it’s for the good of the kids” and “let’s just move on.” The Spurs aren’t frickin’ Blake.

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    God damn, I honestly had no idea he was 25, seems like he's been in the league forever. Still, last 4 years he's put up #s on bad/mediocre teams, he is no ideal centerpiece in a trade for Kawhi. Y'all sleep on Brandon Ingram far too much IMO, also Jaylen brown we're all underestimating as well.
    Lakers will only go on the cheap to trade for Kwahi because he's forcing them. They'll offer Deng and Hart or some crap.... Like they did last year with PG. If Kwahi is saying only fakers, then we are lucky if we get Rozier thrown in, forget about Brown and Tatum ...

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    Tobias Harris is so incredible that the Spurs will win 50 games and lose in the first round.

    Then blow all their cap space on paying him 4/100 so they don't come out empty handed for Kawhi

    Just putting off the rebuild while Kawhi smiles at how he destroyed the Spurs

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    God damn, I honestly had no idea he was 25, seems like he's been in the league forever. Still, last 4 years he's put up #s on bad/mediocre teams, he is no ideal centerpiece in a trade for Kawhi. Y'all sleep on Brandon Ingram far too much IMO, also Jaylen brown we're all underestimating as well.
    yeah, he's played 7 seasons and has been on 4 teams... but he started super young.

    that said, his 3pt shooting was only at this level last year. in his first 6 years he hovered between 25-35%. suddenly last year he's shooting north of 40% (on more attempts, btw).

    he's a good player tbh, but you'd need both first round picks at least tbh, he's not anything near a franchise guy

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    Lakers will only go on the cheap to trade for Kwahi because he's forcing them. They'll offer Deng and Hart or some crap.... Like they did last year with PG. If Kwahi is saying only fakers, then we are lucky if we get Rozier thrown in, forget about Brown and Tatum ...
    Or just don't trade his ass.

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    What does that even mean, trade up or down, attaching it to a player, wanting a player.
    Pretty much...so just like all along with this saga, nobody knows what the is going on.
    The quote of the day/week.

    I suspect even the Spurs are not entirely sure of what is going on.

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    You know you have Stockholm syndrome when Tobias ing Harris starts sounding good.

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    Lakers will only go on the cheap to trade for Kwahi because he's forcing them. They'll offer Deng and Hart or some crap.... Like they did last year with PG. If Kwahi is saying only fakers, then we are lucky if we get Rozier thrown in, forget about Brown and Tatum ...
    Pretty much this. Pretty sure Pop knows there relationship as player team is not repairable but he probably wants to negotiate he stretch his teams to the eastern conference to get some sort of value. I really believe Popovich takes the best deal from the Clippers if Eastern teams are really convinced it is a 1-year deal or he gets what he can from an eastern conference team.

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    Or just don't trade his ass.


    Yeah, if the potential return in a trade is because Leonard has destroyed his trade value then force him to play out his contract and then walk in free agency without the financial benefit of a sign and trade.

    If he doesn't show or claims another dubious injury then suspend without pay.

    I don't think this is going to go how Leonard's group thought it would.

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    What does that even mean, trade up or down, attaching it to a player, wanting a player.
    Yes. /sauces

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    What value do those two Clipper 1st round picks have? Who is there? Also don't sleep on PATFO, they obviously made the right choice trading George Hill for the 15th pick in 2011.

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    Yeah I don't understand why fans would be upset over a guy being a snake and lying his way to a trade while trying to make a franchise look bad in the process to preserve his own image. So wierd!!!

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    Lou Williams 31 years old, destined to be a good player on a bad team, or a bench player. Harris is 25 and still has the potential with good coaching to be a top 10 player.
    And signed for 3 years at $8M per. All while basically being their best player at times last year.

    He's a ing steal.

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    Spurs have been 'nice' at least publicly to this point with Leonard. I think that's over. They're not going to do anything to impact what leverage they have left, but I expect they will unload when this is over. There's reputational issues given the claims Leonard's group has been making.

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    Say the Spurs do not trade Kawhi and expect him to report to training camp and play all upcoming season. However, Kawhi refuses and sits the entire season. Would the Spurs have a legal right to pause his contract for another season since he elected not to show up and was healthy?

    I am not saying that the Spurs should do this, but I wonder what their options would be.

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