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    You’re as stupid as the little boys you molest are innocent.

    You’re a soulless valueless sucker Sandusky wannabe who serves the same amount of purpose as spurt. You defend the indefensible, and when you’re a worthless rotting corpse people will rejoice
    Bet you that you thought that sounded really good in your head when you came up with that, too bad..

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    Trump’s Trade War Backfires And Sends His Supporters Toward Bankruptcy

    Trump’s trade war is hitting the agricultural Midwest hard as

    farmers in eight of the top ten soybean producing states that voted for Trump are

    going to be looking at bankruptcy as they are already being hurt by Trump’s trade war with China.

    Trump supporters are getting what they deserve

    If anyone voted for Donald Trump and didn’t expect this to happen, they are getting what they deserve.

    Trump was consistent about his views on immigration and trade.

    As a candidate, Trump openly ached for a trade war.

    Did these farmers think that the guy who complained that America was getting screwed on trade and called Mexicans rapists was not going to hurt them economically?

    Anyone who is surprised by this deserves the economic consequences.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/24/trumps-trade-war-supporters-bankruptcy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=f eed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Po liticus+USA+%29



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    Gadget makers are bracing for Trump’s trade war

    Trump’s tariffs could spell doom for small hardware startups

    That looming trade war has particularly severe consequences for gadget startups.

    Often borne out of crowdfunding campaigns, these companies have typically played American demand against Chinese manufacturing know-how, focusing on emerging products like smar ches, VR controllers and the Internet of Things.

    The incoming tariffs make that approach both riskier and less profitable, potentially requiring an entire industry to rethink where it makes its goods.


    “Everyone’s thinking about it, and what’s a solution that’s sustainable and legal,”

    says Nima CEO Shireen Yates.

    Her company, which manufactures a portable gluten tester, is a prime example of the kind of small hardware venture that could suffer as trade barriers go up.

    “Our distributors are thinking about it, everyone in the supply chain is aware of it. It’s too early but the uncertainty of it is daunting.”

    In other cases, the new tariffs could complicate supply for components that are already heavily in demand.

    Shawn Chang, a vice president at a manufacturing consulting firm called Dragon Innovation, says

    he’s particularly concerned about the impact on the capacitor market.

    “Everything from Tesla cars to the IoT devices we use every day, to our cell phone... all of it is eating up capacitors enormously,” Chang says.

    “It’s really hard to buy capacitors right now, and it doesn’t help to have 25 percent [tariffs] on top of that.”

    For any products where China is the dominant supplier,

    there may be little choice but to pass costs along to the consumer,

    with potentially serious impacts for hardware startups.

    “With today’s global supply chains,

    consumers and smaller companies often end up being the pawns and footing the bill of trade disputes,”

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/20/1...-manufacturing

    I suppose the smart people in startups, etc weren't Trash voters, so them not voting for Trash in 2020 will have no effect.



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    Harley-Davidson Slammed by Trump’s Trade War

    In a federal filing Monday morning, Harley-Davidson Inc. (NYSE: HOG) said that the tariff on motorcycles exported from the United States to Europe will rise from a current 6% to 31% and add an average of $2,200 to the price of a Harley in Europe.

    The tariff was implemented in retaliation for U.S. President Trump’s 25% tariff on European steel imports.

    The company has decided to eat the cost of the tariffs.

    Calling the tariffs “a tremendous cost increase,” Harley-Davidson said that passing the cost along to dealers and retail customers

    “would have an immediate and lasting detrimental impact” on its European business.

    To stem the loss, Harley-Davidson plans to shift production for motorcycles destined for EU markets from the U.S. to its international facilities.


    The company said it would take at least nine to 18 months to complete the shift and will require “incremental investment.”

    Harley did not comment on a potential loss of U.S. jobs.

    https://247wallst.com/industrials/20...F7+Wall+St.%29



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    Trump’s Trade War Backfires And Sends His Supporters Toward Bankruptcy

    Trump’s trade war is hitting the agricultural Midwest hard as

    farmers in eight of the top ten soybean producing states that voted for Trump are

    going to be looking at bankruptcy as they are already being hurt by Trump’s trade war with China.

    Trump supporters are getting what they deserve

    If anyone voted for Donald Trump and didn’t expect this to happen, they are getting what they deserve.

    Trump was consistent about his views on immigration and trade.

    As a candidate, Trump openly ached for a trade war.

    Did these farmers think that the guy who complained that America was getting screwed on trade and called Mexicans rapists was not going to hurt them economically?

    Anyone who is surprised by this deserves the economic consequences.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/24/trumps-trade-war-supporters-bankruptcy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=f eed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Po liticus+USA+%29


    As of Friday's close November Soybeans were higher than they were a year ago. June 23rd 2017 Soybeans hit 9.07. They closed Friday at 9.16...

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    So soybean farmers are not, will not be affected by Trash's trade war?

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    So soybean farmers are not, will not be affected by Trash's trade war?
    Article said they are getting what they deserved. Since it was dated over the weekend it seems to imply that prices has dropped drastically beyond the norm even though they were higher than a year ago.

    You seem to be avoiding that info, while twisting my statement around Cathy Newman style.

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    Article said they are getting what they deserved. Since it was dated over the weekend it seems to imply that prices has dropped drastically beyond the norm even though they were higher than a year ago.

    You seem to be avoiding that info, while twisting my statement around Cathy Newman style.
    I avoid no info

    you avoid answering: So soybean farmers are not, will not be affected by Trash's trade war?



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    I avoid no info

    you avoid answering: So soybean farmers are not, will not be affected by Trash's trade war?


    Everything is affected. Volitility makes more money than stagnant prices. I'm rooting for another $1 less. I have 30k bushels hedged at a $1.20 above market, yet I'm a soybean farmer. How can it be that I can lift my hedges at any time and make a good profit? The article clearly says that Southeast farmers are going to do bankrupt. Please explain. Anyone in any business that doesn't lock in inputs or sales when a good opportunity presents itself should be weeded out by the free market.

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    Wisconsin cheese industry in danger due to Trump tariffs, producers may be 'dumping milk in fields'

    From the New York Times:

    “If export markets get shut off,

    I could see us getting to the point where we’re dumping our milk in the fields,” said Jeff Schwager, the president of Sartori Company,

    which has produced cheese in a nearby town for generations with milk it purchases from more than 100 dairy farms throughout Wisconsin.

    “It’ll be a big ripple effect through the state.”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1775229

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    Avoid direct question, continue posting editorials.

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    Avoid direct question, continue posting editorials.
    What was your direct question

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    Avoid direct question, continue posting editorials.
    Put him/her on ignore. It will save you from scrolling and having to endure the disgusting vitriol.

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    What was your direct question
    This time it was this.


    I have 30k bushels hedged at a $1.20 above market, yet I'm a soybean farmer. How can it be that I can lift my hedges at any time and make a good profit? The article clearly says that Southeast farmers are going to do bankrupt. Please explain.



    The other 30 times it has been me asking what he does for a living or his/her background

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    Put him/her on ignore. It will save you from scrolling and having to endure the disgusting vitriol.
    prudent, avuncular Chris deserves to be put on ignore.

    wtf did you do with regular Chris?

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    prudent, avuncular Chris deserves to be put on ignore.

    wtf did you do with regular Chris?
    You can't just cut and paste random adjectives. This is nonsense.

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    Trump Knows The US Holds a Winning Hand on Trade


    Trump knows when to hold ‘em and knows when to fold ‘em, knows when to walk away and knows when to run, as Kenny Rogers advised all poker players. He was holding a losing hand when it came to handling the children brought to America illegally by mothers crossing the border illegally, so he folded ‘em. But when it comes to trade policy he knows he is holding a winning hand—and intends to force the other players in this high-stakes game to pay up.

    First come tariffs on steel (25 percent) and aluminum (10 percent), mostly imported from America’s allies. Canada will be hardest hit. The Toronto-based Howe Ins ute estimates that the steel and aluminum tariffs will cost Canada 6,000 jobs and cut its annual GDP by $8 billion. Two-thirds of Canada’s trade is with the United States, 85 percent of its auto exports go to America, and a considerable number of the industry’s 130,000 workers will be out of work if Trump goes through with his threat to raise U.S. duties on imported autos from 2.5 percent to 20 percent.

    Prime minister Justin Trudeau is between a rock (Trump) and a hard place (his farmer-cons uents, protected by a 270 percent tariff on dairy products) as he tries to negotiate a NAFTA deal while also retaliating to Trump’s steel and aluminum tariffs. Laura Dawson, the Canadian who heads the Canada Ins ute in Washington says “Canada is going to have to make some concessions.” But Trudeau had little choice but to retaliate.

    Nor did the European Union, which made the decision to retaliate despite Angela Merkel’s preference for suing for peace. Germany’s economy is heavily dependent on its auto industry, which employs 117,000 workers, and exports about 800,000 vehicles per year—323,000 of them to the United States. It is shielded from foreign compe ion by the E.U.’s 10 percent duty on auto imports. Daimler has already issued a profit warning because of the U.S. threat, and the Ifo Ins ute, a Munich-based think tank, estimates that U.S. tariffs on automobiles would lower German GDP by €5 billion, or 0.16 percent of GDP. “No other country would suffer higher absolute losses from such a tariff as Germany,” says Gabriel Felbermayr, director of the Ifo Center for International Economics. Merkel just doesn’t have enough chips to get into a serious game of raise and re-raise with America.

    Which is why the German auto industry is proposing the elimination by the E.U. and the U.S. of all duties on most vehicles, an idea that never entered the heads of German automakers when their tariff was almost five times America’s. Now that Trump is threatening to see their 10 percent and raise it to 20 percent (to continue the poker analogy) VW, BMW, Mercedes, et al. are born-again free traders. Whether they speak for their E.U. partners—the E.U. alone has authority to negotiate for its members—is uncertain.

    That was a warm-up, low-stakes game, preliminary to a high-stakes effort to upend a trading order that Trump says seriously disadvantages America. Across that table sits Xi Jinping’s communist China. Trump’s opening bid there is a 25 percent tariff on $50 billion of Chinese goods, covering 1,102 product categories that XI is promoting as part of his “Made in China 2025” plan to dominate industries of the future. China called Trump’s bet, retaliating by threatening duties on 659 goods valued at $50 billion, including cars, crude oil, and soy beans, and unloosing its controlled media: Trump is “capricious . . . squanders the country’s reputation . . . rude, unreasonable, selfish.” Not very different from the mainstream American press’s treatment of the president.

    Serious poker players regard this opening round as penny-ante stuff. Fifty billion dollars is less than half of one percent of the GDPs of both countries. But the betting and the risks are getting interesting. Trump has put on the table chips representing a 10 percent levy on $200 billion of Chinese goods, doubled to $400 billion if China retaliates. Also coming soon will be bans on exports of U.S. high-tech products to China, unless the regime ends its theft of intellectual property.

    Unless the parties agree to call off the game before the next cards are dealt, we will soon find out which player has the most chips. If Trump is a cool enough player to ignore whining by some American firms, he has the chips with which to win. Here’s why:

    China’s exports to the United States come to almost 4 percent of its GDP, while U.S. exports to China equal only 0.7 percent of U.S. GDP. As consultants the Lindsey Group point out, “A -for-tat trade war has an impact on China that is six times that on America.”
    The U.S. economy is in rude good health, while China is the throes of an effort to reduce the massive debt overhang that is beginning to stifle its growth. That creates “a strain on the top leadership as it tries to fend off a trade war with the U.S.,” Diana Cheyleva, chief economist with London-based Enodo Economics, told the New York Times.
    China is having difficulty finding U.S. stuff to penalize. It has exempted LNG from tariffs because it desperately needs imports from the United States to fuel its economy. If it cancels orders now with Boeing, it will have a five-year wait to get on the books of Airbus. Tariffs on U.S. agricultural products drive up food costs in China.

    In short, America can win this game. Whether the president can draft a peace treaty that accomplishes his primary goal of ending China’s massive theft of U.S. intellectual property and subsidization of the industries it is positioning to dominate the future is another question. Getting China to promise something and getting China to do something are not quite the same thing. In response to pressure from Trump, Xi promised to liberalize access to its securities market. Then comes the fine print—to qualify a firm must have at about $16 billion in assets, a threshold only very few firms can cross.

    Looking at his hand, Trump is convinced that, as songwriter Leonard Cohen puts it, he has drawn the card that is so high and wild he will never have to draw another to earn the acclaim he so badly needs. As Ronald Reagan put it when asked his strategy against our major adversary at the time, “We win, they lose.”

    Americans would even forgive Trump the inevitable claim that he invented that phrase.
    https://www.weeklystandard.com/irwin...be-easy-to-win
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    How embarrassing.... Please, stop all that winning, Mr. President. We can't take it anymore, just like you said.


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    "I fought hard for them"

    bone spurs weren't a problem, so-called Pres Space Cadet?

    Specifics about your "fight", no just bull

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    Trump threatens Harley-Davidson with taxes ‘like never before’ and predicts its eventual collapse


    President Trump on Tuesday threatened the iconic motorcycle company Harley-Davidson with severe taxes and

    predicted a public revolt that he said would eventually put the 115-year-old firm out of business,

    blasting the Wisconsin company for a plan to move some operations outside the United States as a way to avoid getting caught in the middle of an escalating trade war.

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    A Harley-Davidson should never be built in another country-never!

    Their employees and customers are already very angry at them.

    If they move, watch, it will be the beginning of the end - they surrendered, they quit!

    The Aura will be gone and they will be taxed like never before!

    7:17 AM - Jun 26, 2018



    Trump also accused Harley-Davidson, without providing any evidence, of intentionally misleading Americans by saying the firm was moving some operations out of the United States in response to new tariffs imposed by the European Union.

    The intensity of these attacks, which he typically reserves for political opponents, came in Twitter posts.

    He alleged that Harley-Davison’s Monday announcement that it would move some more operations outside the United States was long planned

    and that it was using Europe’s new tariffs as an excuse.

    He threatened to hit the company with an unspecified tax if it attempted to sell motorcycles in the United States that were made outside the country.

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    Early this year Harley-Davidson said they would move much of their plant operations in Kansas City to Thailand.

    That was long before Tariffs were announced.

    Hence, WTF! they were just using Tariffs/Trade War as an excuse.

    Shows how unbalanced & unfair trade is, but we will fix it.....

    6:16 AM - Jun 26, 2018

    Harley-Davidson had long planned to open a new plant in Thailand, a decision that predated the trade war between Trump and the leaders of a number of other countries.

    But the firm said Monday that it was shifting more production overseas specifically to blunt the impact of the tariffs imposed by Europe.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

    What about Repugs' hating "picking winners and losers" and "free enterprise" ?



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    Shick one of seven companies to get tariff waivers.

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    Tariff Waivers: Another Source of Welfare for Donald Trump, His Family and Their Friends

    Donald Trump may not be very good at running the government for the benefit of the people who live in the country (or the world),

    but he sure knows how to use it to enrich himself and his friends.

    The NYT apparently forgot to mention this fact in a piece on companies applying for exemptions to tariffs.


    When countries impose tariffs or other import restrictions they usually allow for some exemptions in special cases.

    One of the reasons that economists generally are opposed to tariffs is that these exemptions create enormous opportunities for corruption.

    Imagine that someone importing $50 million in steel faced a 25 percent tariff.

    She would save $12.5 million if she could get an exemption.

    Many businesspeople would be happy to share a portion,

    perhaps a very substantial proportion, of this $12.5 million in savings with the politician(s) who made it possible.

    This could mean campaign contributions, sweetheart contracts with their businesses, or even outright cash payments.


    It is very plausible that

    the Trump family and/or others in his administration, who have shown an open contempt for ethics norms,

    plan to profit personally from granting these tariff exemptions.

    It would have been worth mentioning this possibility in this piece.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06...their-friends/

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    Companies Get First Tariff Waivers, but Many More Are Left in Limbo

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/22/u...T.nav=top-news



    Does anybody doubt that corrupt bag Trash and his corrupt family would refuse $Ms in exchange for tariff waivers?



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    The White House has been promising to roll out new investment restrictions on China by the end of this month, leading to a market tumble in recent days.

    But yesterday, while President Trump maintained that “people come and steal” American technology,

    he said investment rules could be handled by the existing Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. —

    which has just been awarded new powers by Congress to review Chinese tech investments.

    It’s seen as

    a victory for administration figures who have attempted to cool Trump’s burgeoning trade war.

    SOURCES: WSJ (SUB), FT (SUB)


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    President Trump announces a major U.S. Steel expansion — that isn’t happening

    “The head of U.S. Steel called me the other day, and he said, ‘We’re opening up six major facilities and expanding facilities that have never been expanded.’ They haven’t been opened in many, many years.”
    — President Trump, roundtable with American workers, Duluth, Minn., June 20, 2018


    “U.S. Steel just announced they’re expanding or building six new facilities.”

    — Trump, remarks at the White House, June 26


    “I’ve been hearing that from steel companies, and in particular from U.S. Steel, where I was with the president, as I said. And he — they’re just talking about opening plants now, and so many things have changed.”

    — Trump, roundtable on tax reform, Cleveland, May 5


    Here’s a puzzler:

    Why is the president of the United States announcing the opening of new factories that a major U.S. company has not announced?

    U.S. Steel is a publicly traded company,

    so it is supposed to disclose materially important information.

    The opening of six major facilities and the expansion of even more would be huge news.

    Yet all U.S. Steel has announced is that it will restart two blast furnaces and steelmaking facilities at the company’s Granite City Works integrated plant in Illinois — one in March and the other in October.

    The reopening of the first blast furnace was announced in March, resulting in 500 jobs, and

    the second was announced in June, adding 300. The plant had been closed since 2015.

    Meghan M. Cox, U.S. Steel’s spokeswoman, simply offered this response:

    “To answer your question,

    we post all of our major operational announcements to our website and

    report them on earnings calls.

    Our most recent one pertained to our Granite City ‘A’ blast furnace restart.”


    Translation:

    The president is wrong. But apparently U.S. Steel is afraid to say that out loud.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

    Trash LIES, and his supporters are stupid, willfully ignorant ers who believe and support him.


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