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    Any deal with Philly where the Spurs don’t get Fultz is going to be a complete fleece. Fultz may not ever be a star, but he’s the only player (that could realistically be traded) on that Sixers team with star potential.

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    Spurs get: Saric, Korkmaz, Bolden, Miami 2021 1st, Sac 2020 2nd
    76ers get: Kawhi
    Kings get: Covington

    Still too steep a price for Philly?
    Wait, why is SAC getting away with giving up a second for Cov? If the Spurs don't like him, they can just take Chandler's expiring instead. SAC needs to take bad salary or pay more in the way of assets.

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    Lonnie Walker already looking so much better. With some seasoning, he’s going to be a good player.

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    So according to Sheridan, the Spurs will not only not receive a player perceived to have star potential, but they won't even receive a big, defensive wing or match on Anderson, which would leave them Gay and Green (better at PF and SG, respectively) at SF.

    I don't know why Buford doesn't just call Leonard's agent and tell him to tell his uncle that they're not trading him to the Lakers and that the 76ers want a conversation or meeting whereby they're given assurance that they'll have a legit shot to retain him next off season. That should pave the way for Fultz' inclusion, which should fast track a trade.

    Leonard and Green for Fultz, Covington, Heat 1st and either Luwawu-Cabarrot or Bolden (if they don't match on Anderson, the latter).

    With Parker out of the picture and hopefully Ginobili following suit, Mills-Fultz, White-Murray could be the back court next season. Buys them a season to evaluate Fultz and Murray, gauge their trade value and make a decision/clear a spot for Walker the following season.

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    Lonnie Walker already looking so much better. With some seasoning, he’s going to be a good player.
    Would that be before or after he debunks the moon landings?

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    Spursfans believing anyone now so long as its against Kawhi just like a little hoe

    Hoe? Are you planting a garden? It's "Ho" you dumb .

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    I think the Spurs origination already did that they just waiting for everything to calm down and off course the lawyers gotta draw up a whole bunch of contracts.

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    I think the Spurs origination already did that they just waiting for everything to calm down and off course the lawyers gotta draw up a whole bunch of contracts.
    Agree. Exec's have to interview Kawhi's posse, review medical records, interview Kawhi, and write up contracts.

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    Walker keeps shooting air balls.

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    I don't know why Buford doesn't just call Leonard's agent and tell him to tell his uncle that they're not trading him to the Lakers and that the 76ers want a conversation or meeting whereby they're given assurance that they'll have a legit shot to retain him next off season. That should pave the way for Fultz' inclusion, which should fast track a trade.
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    This would be speculation on my part but I don’t think the Spurs are ready yet to trade Kawhi, which is why they have been asking for the moon from teams per reports. I think their strategy is to get a 1on1 with Kawhi without the uncle so I think it’s highly possible that he will at least be in training camp with the Spurs. The other possibility is they want to apply pressure to Kawhi’s group to agree to a Philly deal and give them assurances to resign. Otherwise Kawhi would have to go through the scrunity that would come playing another year with the Spurs. Never mind the additional compensation lost if he leaves as a free agent vs a trade. In my opinion, we call their bluff and make him play it out.

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    This would be speculation on my part but I don’t think the Spurs are ready yet to trade Kawhi, which is why they have been asking for the moon from teams per reports. I think their strategy is to get a 1on1 with Kawhi without the uncle so I think it’s highly possible that he will at least be in training camp with the Spurs. The other possibility is they want to apply pressure to Kawhi’s group to agree to a Philly deal and give them assurances to resign. Otherwise Kawhi would have to go through the scrunity that would come playing another year with the Spurs. Never mind the additional compensation lost if he leaves as a free agent vs a trade. In my opinion, we call their bluff and make him play it out.
    I'm closer on this than I am on most other ideas. baseline bum reminded me that Leonard cannot actually sign an extension yet and has to wait until the 16th. I don't think SA will trade him before then. They are probably only willing to entertain it if they get those types of huge offers. Maybe it costs them some trade value to wait, but that's worth it to get a chance to get an extension underway, a trade for an All-Star and a whole new outlook on the team.

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    no.

    if kawhi sits out... other teams will know the spurs have no other cards to play.

    kawhi sitting out actually helps him. other teams would have to give up less to get him.
    this dope sitting out would actually be a breach and push his free agency back another year and he he tries doctors/injury bull both parties would have to use an appointed Doctor. He will not and cannot go that route unless it's just about the supermax so his traitorous as is going to play or to be honest just suit up and sit there put him in garbage time if we can't get anything of value because of him and his groups actions I would humiliate him all season just has he has down to such a historic and proud organization. Don't care about stooping to his level he also is a flat out thief and stole 19 million from the orginization.

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    Sign my black ass up for slavery then. I'll take it!!!

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    Spurs get: Saric, Korkmaz, Bolden, Miami 2021 1st, Sac 2020 2nd
    76ers get: Kawhi
    Kings get: Covington

    Still too steep a price for Philly?

    No need to include the Kings; essentially they get a cost controlled 3 and D player for the cost of the 35th pick-which Boston actually owns, they would make out like bandits.

    Spurs get: Saric, Covington, Bolden, Miami 2021, 1st, Philly 1st Rounder, 2020 Nets 2nd Rounder, 2020 Knicks Second Rounder, 2021 Knicks Second Rounder

    76ers get: Kawhi

    PG-Murray, White
    SG-Mills, Green, Belinelli, Walker
    SF-Covington, Anderson,
    PF-Saric, Gay, Bertans, Bolden
    C-Aldridge, Gasol, Milutinov?

    Spurs future assets: Spurs 2019 1st rounder, 76ers 2019 1st rounder, 2019 Spurs 2nd Rounder,

    Spurs 2020 1st rounder, 2020 Nets 2nd Rounder, 2020 Knicks Second Rounder, 2020 Spurs 2nd Rounder,

    Spurs 2021 1st rounder, Miami 2021 1st rounder, 2021 Knicks Second Rounder
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    This would be speculation on my part but I don’t think the Spurs are ready yet to trade Kawhi, which is why they have been asking for the moon from teams per reports. I think their strategy is to get a 1on1 with Kawhi without the uncle so I think it’s highly possible that he will at least be in training camp with the Spurs. The other possibility is they want to apply pressure to Kawhi’s group to agree to a Philly deal and give them assurances to resign. Otherwise Kawhi would have to go through the scrunity that would come playing another year with the Spurs. Never mind the additional compensation lost if he leaves as a free agent vs a trade. In my opinion, we call their bluff and make him play it out.

    I'm closer on this than I am on most other ideas. baseline bum reminded me that Leonard cannot actually sign an extension yet and has to wait until the 16th. I don't think SA will trade him before then. They are probably only willing to entertain it if they get those types of huge offers. Maybe it costs them some trade value to wait, but that's worth it to get a chance to get an extension underway, a trade for an All-Star and a whole new outlook on the team.


    I've thought the same all along. I'm just saying, if/when push comes to shove, it shouldn't be difficult to get Leonard and/or his representation to assure the 76ers they'll be given a legit chance to re-sign him and for them to acquiesce on Fultz.


    PG-Murray, White
    SG-Mills, Green, Belinelli, Walker
    SF-Covington, Anderson,
    PF-Saric, Gay, Bertans, Bolden
    C-Aldridge, Gasol, Milutinov?
    Not a single perimeter player who can create for themselves or others in the starting lineup.

    Anytime a superstar or star is traded, the package has to start with a player or pick perceived to possess star potential. In the absence of that, it's not worth considering.
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    Not exactly slavery when Leonard signed his contract. Playing the slavery card will backfire horribly for Leonard and his group.
    Historically speaking, slave masters were constantly misdiagnosing their slaves' injuries.

    (Exploited slaves were often forced to get second opinions.)

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    Historically speaking, slave masters were constantly misdiagnosing their slaves' injuries.

    (Exploited slaves were often forced to get second opinions.)
    Wtf those that have to do with Kawhi got?

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    I've thought the same all along. I'm just saying, if/when push comes to shove, it shouldn't be difficult to get Leonard and/or his representation to assure the 76ers they'll be given a legit chance to re-sign him and for them to acquiesce on Fultz.




    Not a single perimeter player who can create for themselves or others in the starting lineup.

    Anytime a superstar or star is traded, the package has to start with a player or pick perceived to possess star potential. In the absence of that, it's not worth considering.
    Too many 2-guards, plus Dijon is not a true PG. Gotta hope White is. If so, I would actually like to see him paired with Marco in the SL. Marco's off-ball skill would mesh much more effectively with White than Murray.

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    I drive a car. I'm now a nascar racer.

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    Would korkmaz & saric

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    make amends? Maybe this shouldn't have been playing Anne Frank for most of the season.Spurs ain't making amends with that .

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    + 2021 Miami Pick and 2019 Philly Pick to SA. Or Jonah Bolden in place of one of the picks. Kings get 2020 Bulls’ 2nd Round Pick from Philly.

    Who says no.





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    That's too many guards for us to take back. But yea. That's fair as long as 76ers can trust Kawhi and his group.

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    That's too many guards for us to take back. But yea. That's fair as long as 76ers can trust Kawhi and his group.

    Shumpert and Temple are expirings. But yea, Philly would really have to believe Kawhi is re-signing there in order for them to make that deal.

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    + 2021 Miami Pick and 2019 Philly Pick to SA. Kings get 2020 Bulls’ 2nd Round Pick from Philly.

    Who says no.






    Do we get bolden as well?

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