Wonder if that "All-Star" PATFO tried to use to temp Kawhi was Kyle Lowry? Toronto probably should try to win it one more time now that Lebron isn't there to stop them, but there have been a number or rumors about them rebuilding. The reason why they both a) Don't want to pull the trigger without Leonard committing long term and b) Aren't willing to match Anderson is that Lowry's contract is really big, and Leonard getting a deal starting at the DPE next summer will put them into practical tax territory.
http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...85c1e506485685
They'd be $106.5 Million with nine more spots to fill. For a team getting a steady supply of ring-chasers, this wouldn't be a big deal. But they'd be really weak depth-wise.
But if Kawhi were to opt into his final year and then sign a somewhat more reasonable DPE (like $160M/4), then it gives SA a solid two-year window to compete before the team has the option of completely rebuilding around Leonard.
This idea has them trading Mills, Green, Gasol and Manu's deal for Lowry and Powell's bad contract:
http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...23d85647162320
Lowry, White, Vet PG/Cheap youngster (Harris, Napier)
Murray, Beli, Walker
Leonard, Powell, Blossomgame
Bertans, Gay, Metu
Aldridge, Milutinov, Vet big (Len, Booker)
Two-way:
Hanlan
Eubanks/Brimah/Jefferson
No thanks to Lowry. Plus the Spurs passed on him last off-season.
I really don't want to be left holding the Lowry bag either. But he's a good player who only has one more year on his deal after this one, and he is from Texas and wants to be a Spur. The Spurs can contend with another move (I don't think Cousins signing has made GS any more invincible than they were last year). If Leonard can be persuaded to return on a lesser deal to make it happen, they can't turn afford to stand pat.
SA was not going to stand pat if Kawhi changed his mind. They clearly had something lined up.
Yep. I wonder what Pop was getting at with that and if he had specifics or was just signaling potential moves/future shift in personnel.
I had forgotten that Lowry really wanted to be a Spur last year. Makes sense.
That's the rumor. The question is who. We've been acting like it's Kemba, but there are other "All-Stars" who could be had. Lowry, Irving, maybe Millsap or Beal. Maybe even Teague.
What would be hilarious is if Spurs traded with Toronto and got Lowry and he finally beats LeBron in playoffs as a Spur.
It was hilarious lol We had zero interest.
Agreed. The brainwashed can only go in one direction though.
There was nothing Pop and the Spurs (who I think Kawhi still likes and values) could do.
Uncle Dennis and Impact (which is ironic and now want to change the name of the villain co. and I'm going to have an awkard convo with a certain producer over this...) are the drivers of this limo-driven tour of someone's life.
Ultimately it's up to Kawhi, in the End and he's been complicit, up to now.
I don't think SA was willing to trade LMA for Lowry the same way they were willing to trade him for Irving or Paul. I was actually really hyping Lowry up before free agency and was really annoyed that they signed Mills instead.
Yeah I remember he said it before a Raptors/Spurs game in the preseason and people were like "wtf"... as a way of him disrespecting his current team. Kind of like: "I wanted to play for the Spurs but they didn't want me... so here I am."
He's from Philadelphia.
No chance the Raptors would trade their best player and an outside shot at a Finals appearance, for no young asset(s) or meaningful financial flexibility.
Still makes me chuckleYeah I remember he said it before a Raptors/Spurs game in the preseason and people were like "wtf"... as a way of him disrespecting his current team. "I wanted to play for the Spurs but they didn't want me... so here I am."
I remember this.
Depends on the deal and how they value what SA has. They are locked into being a tax team right now, and the Spurs can save them tens of Millions and give them a prospect like Murray. If I were them, I'd give it at least this upcoming season to see if they can win with Lebron gone. Indeed, the deal SA had in place when they spoke to Kawhi could have been during the draft with 18 on the table for Toronto and with them not yet knowing James was going to leave the East. But there's definitely something for trading guys too early rather than too late.
Why do you say that?
Would have loved to have seen Beal next to Kawhi.
Lowry is 32 and is owed 64M over the next two seasons. Hard pass!
That has some sense about the additional all star. In one of all the rumors to come out in this saga it was mentioned that Kawhi doesn't care about an additional all star and that be doesn't want a super team. I think he just wants his money and doesn't care about who plays with him. His uncle has said through his mouthpieces they believe Leonard can recruit and attract players to play with him etc.
He doesn't care about how PATFO puts things together so long as he gets his and if he doesn't he wants out. This tirijala has been going on all season I suspect. I am not convinced that leg is A-OK as you know. I think his bargaining position got very weakened once he got injured and the misdiagnosis opens medical disagreements just made it worse, then what was a tropical storm turned into a hurricane which has continued to pick up steam (to borrow someone's colorful analogy). Until that hurricane lands it just won't deflate and start to weaken and dissappear. We are charting trajectories, not knowing where it is going to land.
Meanwhile Kyle was that citizen that saw the storm picking up steam and not wanting to wait to see where it lands first bc it would be too late for him to take measures he just took it upon himself to relocate his little trailer. Most residents are still waiting for more news on the storm.
Last edited by SAGirl; 07-08-2018 at 08:10 PM.
Posted this upstairs too.
AAU brawl. Players attack refs. Today's youth... smh
Sad
David Aldridge on NBATV just said the Lakers have stopped negotiating with the Spurs until they lower their trade demands.
Your move, Philly.
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