Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[Vic Petro]

I mentioned Knicks as a partner last week. One injured franchise guy for an injured potential franchise guy. But Spurs ask for Knox too who looks promising. Porzy probably doesn't give you much this year but Knox has Ingram like upside and is more of a playmaker than even Jaylen Brown was as a young guy.
That would be better than letting him walk for NADA which I still don't get...

Knicks aren’t doing that. They wouldn’t even do Porzingis straight up for Kawhi. They have a KD plan for next offseason that they’re not messing with.

[lebomb]

Basically no one knows .

[BatManu20]

these clowns.

[BatManu20]

Magic Jr looking at Lebron like

[spurschamps99030507]

3-6

[slick'81]

Basically no one knows .

Pretty obvious nobody but maybe the spurs and kawhi know whats going on

[Killakobe81]

We wouldn't get Porzy. And if the Spurs asked for both Porzy and Knox they're beyond stupid. At this point the best they will get is a 3rd tier player (DeRozan or worse) and *maybe* a 2nd rounder.

Not saying Knicks say yes just saying that is what Spurs should ask for.

[MoSpur02]

Yeah that story doesn't make sense. Nothing new has happened to give Toronto any concerns they didn't already know about and any trade is going to require a physical.

Not true. No one knows how healthy he really is. His camp stated he was close to 100%, but who has seen him play since last December or whatever? No one except his camp and his doctor(s). Even the Spurs aren't sure how healthy he is. Now I'm not saying his health scared off Toronto. It could be an excuse, but that's what they told the Spurs as far as why they backed off.

[BatManu20]

[toki9]

I mentioned Knicks as a partner last week. One injured franchise guy for an injured potential franchise guy. But Spurs ask for Knox too who looks promising. Porzy probably doesn't give you much this year but Knox has Ingram like upside and is more of a playmaker than even Jaylen Brown was as a young guy.
That would be better than letting him walk for NADA which I still don't get...

NYC media would eat him alive...i think it's even worse than the LA media...

[hooperflash]

SIX HUNNID COMIN’

[gambit1990]

if kawhi's healthy then a market's media won't be a problem for him. he'll be the best player in the league after a couple seasons.

[cool cat]

I thought fat antonio fans were saying he'd be losing 80 million? Doesn't seem like it if he plays it right. Tbh

He would lose out $80 mil guaranteed money if traded and left after one year.

The fourth option in the graph is fake, he can only sign a 4 year max, so in year 2023-24 he would have to sign another max contract. Maybe he can, but if that is your argument, then I would say he would sign with the spurs another Max after the Supermax his pay would be.

24-25 $52.39mil
25-26 $56.58mil
26-27 $61.1mil
27-28 $65.99mil
28-29 $71.27mil
307.33 mil + 239 from supermax= 546.33 million guaranteed money in 11 years with only 2 contracts

Going by 4th option

24-25 $42
25-26 $45.37
26-27 $49
27-28 $52.92
*28-29 $55.56 have to sign a new max deal
244.85+198.3

443.15 million in 11 years. That's if a 38 year old Leonard can negotiate a 3rd max contract.

So in a perfect world getting max money and max years he is losing 103 million.

[JPB]

He would lose out $80 mil guaranteed money if traded and left after one year.

The fourth option in the graph is fake, he can only sign a 4 year max, so in year 2023-24 he would have to sign another max contract. Maybe he can, but if that is your argument, then I would say he would sign with the spurs another Max after the Supermax his pay would be.

24-25 $52.39mil
25-26 $56.58mil
26-27 $61.1mil
27-28 $65.99mil
28-29 $71.27mil
307.33 mil + 239 from supermax= 546.33 million guaranteed money in 11 years with only 2 contracts

Going by 4th option

24-25 $42
25-26 $45.37
26-27 $49
27-28 $52.92
*28-29 $55.56 have to sign a new max deal
244.85+198.3

443.15 million in 11 years. That's if a 38 year old Leonard can negotiate a 3rd max contract.

So in a perfect world getting max money and max years he is losing 103 million.

what can you do with $500M you can't with 400, tbh ?

[RD2191]

what can you do with $500M you can't with 400, tbh ?

Tbh

[cool cat]

what can you do with $500M you can't with 400, tbh ?

That’s a dumb question. What can you do with $100 mil you can’t with $0. Glad some people are so privileged that 100 million dollars is point less.

[BatManu20]

[Ron Swanson]

[gambit1990]

i've always hated melo but he'll be better on the rockets than okc.

the point god will help him.

[Killakobe81]

I don’t buy anything Sheridan says, but figured I’d post it

Duplicate

[ducks]

yes

[manufan10]

if kawhi's healthy then a market's media won't be a problem for him. he'll be the best player in the league after a couple seasons.

Do you think other teams will protect him like the Spurs have done? He was shielded from criticism all last season, and he doesn't really have to talk all that much to the media... media in NY or LA won't allow them to get away with things like that.

[MoSpur02]

Yeah that story doesn't make sense. Nothing new has happened to give Toronto any concerns they didn't already know about and any trade is going to require a physical.

Not true. No one knows how healthy he really is. His camp stated he was close to 100%, but who has seen him play since last December or whatever? No one except his camp and his doctor(s). Even the Spurs aren't sure how healthy he is. Now I'm not saying his health scared off Toronto. It could be an excuse, but that's what they told the Spurs as far as why they backed off.

Spurs believe that there is a chance the Raptors might come around again, but for now they called off the deal.

[ducks]

melo will work better with paul then with thunder

melo is not bad for a 3 option

[Coach X]

Off Topic: David Robinson, Part 2 - https://www.expressnews.com/spurs-na...2-13075559.php

Speaking of players and teams, the situation with Kawhi Leonard is the biggest NBA mystery at this point. Did you try and intervene? I’m sure the Spurs are hoping to save the relationship.

Yeah, I’m still hoping. I think it’s frustrating from one point because we’ve had this great success. We’ve built on this for so many years, and it seems like a natural progression. You go from me to Tim Duncan, to Kawhi Leonard. It just seems like it made sense. But clearly, it doesn’t make sense to somebody. So, it is frustrating at a certain level, but at the same time, you can’t expect everybody to think in the same way. I remember when Tim Duncan was thinking about leaving San Antonio. It’s simple man, just come and have a conversation. Let’s sit down and talk. And we sat down and talked. I said, “Tim, why would you leave a situation where you have a championship level team; you’re going to win more championships, and go to a situation where you hope to put together a group that can win championships. That doesn’t make any sense.” And in this particular situation, you’re going to take less money now to do that? That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I don’t understand the logic. It seems like a simple conversation would be able to bring some simple logic to the guy. And say, “Look man. Let’s think this through. Does it even make sense to anybody?” Why do you think everybody is wondering what the heck is going on? You have that kind of a conversation face-to-face, it seems like you can figure it out. But I think that’s why everyone is baffled because nothing makes sense about this whole scenario. Here is a franchise that spent 25 years and has a reputation for taking care of players. Not just the star players, I’m talking about the Cory Joseph’s, the Boban Marjanovic’s. The guys that have come in here and gotten contracts other places. Jonathon Simmons. We’ve nurtured these guys. We’ve haven’t been mad at them when they had other opportunities. They go and take those other opportunities. That’s their blessing. We send coaches out there who have other opportunities. I mean they have a long track record of actually supporting guys. Now, why would you fight that and turn the team into the enemy? That doesn’t make sense. So, a lot of things about this don’t make sense. It seems like simple conversations could really solve some of the problems. But to this day, I don’t hear him talking. I mean, who is saying all this stuff. If it’s you, speak up. If it’s you, step forward and be the man. You’re the face franchise. I don’t want to hear about anybody else in your party. I want to hear from you.

100% agree with Robinson.

This is about Leonard taking control of his own destiny or him letting others do it. Kawhi needs to choose between the Spurs or his "group". The franchise must exhaust all the possibilities in order to have that conversation and convince him to stay. He's too valuable.