"We'll do it again . . ." -- Pop

[Dex]

Made the playoffs 41 out of 45 seasons. Damn.

So hard to be a Spurs fan...Why can't we just tank!?!?

[DAF86]

Answer the question: If SA traded for one known year of Anthony Davis would you be good with it?

If the player I needed to give up is Demar ing DeRozan being owned 90 millions for the next three years, of course I would take Anthony Davis for one year. Heck I would take nothing in return, just to get rid of that contract. I don't know where are you trying to get with that hypothetical, I'm not saying Toronto made a bad trade, I'm saying exactly the opposite.

[Marcus Bryant]

Geez, cut yourself already.

[ducks]

how can liberal spurs fans live
TRUMP president and leonard traded!

[Marcus Bryant]

Dammit ducks no politics.

[tbdog]

I don’t recall anyone ever having 3 lottery picks and we draft well in the bottom of the 1st round. You don’t believe THE SPURS can get something with 3 lottery picks in the same draft?????

Teams miss more often than not. Even when things go great, Thunder for example, they have little to show for it. They were a lottery team for years. Got three great lottery players plus hit with Ibaka. And now they are a first round exit team. The only reason why they are not going into next season with an unlikely chance they make the playoffs is because they created a winning culture and convinced George to stay.

[rjv]

Dammit ducks no politics.

ducks is the popovich of ST.

[ducks]

Dammit ducks no politics.

IF THEY STOP IN THREADS IN HERE I WILL BUT THEY KEEP POSTING IT

[spurraider21]

IF THEY STOP IN THREADS IN HERE I WILL BUT THEY KEEP POSTING IT

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[Fusternino]

Still struggling to figure out who will get to place either of Manu/BP3. Is there any way to sign Metu to a 4 year deal at this point?

[timvp]

Made the playoffs 41 out of 45 seasons. Damn.

Not too long ago one championship sounded like a pipe dream. No ABA team would ever be allowed to win championship.

Five champions? Got damn. 41 out of 45 seasons and what looks like 23+ in row before all is said and done? Forgive me while I refuse to pick up the razor blade and untie the rope from the shower rod.

[DAF86]

Geez, cut yourself already.

Let me vent within the first 24 hs of this horrible trade. I have the rest of the offseason and season to cheer for them to do as best as possible.

[Killakobe81]

Kawhi did generate numerous picks - SA didn’t take those deals.

Demar has none of the baggage of Kawhi and while he’s not as good he’s still in his prime and under contract. He has value.

Sure he has value $83 FREAKING MILLION over the NEXT 3 years ...that is a heck of a "value".

Look he is far from trash and he is a good scorer who never gets hurt.
But dont try and bull me with the he will generate numerous picks talk.
Only reason Toronto could get KL for DD was because they threw in a pick and Poetl.

Stop it.

[dbreiden83080]

That's exactly why they should have tried to get as many prospects and draft picks as possible, instead of an overpaid "star" that everybody knows will never be able to lead a team to anything relevant.

Teams were not going to mortgage their future on a guy that sat out 1 whole year..

[DPG21920]

You are being foolish.

[Chucho]

Y'all are a bunch of stupid ing pussies. There were no other desirable trade options. Deng and picks? Robert ing Covington? LMFAO. Come on boys.

The discussion now is 27 mil/yr for DeRozan worth it over having total flexibility in 2020. Those were our options. Blame Uncle Dennis. We are lucky we have actually educated people running this and not a bunch of inbred cousin counting north Texas bums on an online forum.

Perfect assessment of the whole of the deal and even more accurate on the ST armchair GMs.

[Russ]

Made the playoffs 41 out of 45 seasons. Damn.

Look at it this way -- the Lakers missed the playoffs more times in the last five years than the Spurs have in their 45 year history.

[MannyIsGod]

If the player I needed to give up is Demar ing DeRozan being owned 90 millions for the next three years, of course I would take Anthony Davis for one year. Heck I would take nothing in return, just to get rid of that contract. I don't know where are you trying to get with that hypothetical, I'm not saying Toronto made a bad trade, I'm saying exactly the opposite.

What do you expect all nba players to be paid? DeRozan just made All NBA 2nd team. What the is wrong with you?

[exstatic]

I don't get this line of thinking about how, "Oh, they're adding DeRozan to last year's squad that won almost 50 without Kawhi! They're going to be so much better, 2nd seed, etc etc"

Did nobody notice that the 3 best wing defenders are gone from last year, and 4 if Manu retires?

Forgetting Kawhi, Anderson and Green were good defenders who could soak minutes and play up a spot.

The small forward position now might be the worst in the league.

They kept undersized trash defender Forbes and added another terrible defender in Marco. And a 6-4 SG who will play in Austin in Walker.

Gay can't move his feet on the perimeter anymore, he can't play SF. Bertans stork legs aren't moving him around the perimeter well either.

If you're happy that the drama is over, cool. If you're happy that a paper all-star (in the East only, no chance in West) has been the return and fits the LMA timeline, fine. If you're happy that Toronto, if Kawhi shows up, will win the East and can compete with the Warriors, awesome.

But if you think the Spurs are better with a gaping hole at SF and only Marco to try to fill it ... Well, we'll see

Getting an overpaid, mentally fragile, choking, clinically depressed, no defense SG who regularly has LOW-LIGHTS videos on YouTube ... And not having a small forward on the roster without Green or Anderson ... Ugh

DD was All NBA twice, and that's not a paper award. Top 6 guard in the league, at a minimum, depending on which team he makes. That's a much higher bar than All Star.

Oh, and we pretty much had a gaping hole at SF last year. Some guy sat out.

[tmtcsc]

Best case? Spurs are the second best team in the West this season. They won 47 with zero production from Kawhi. Houston is going to be worse this year. Likely - no. But possible they’re second fiddle to the Warriors.

Worst case? You move Derozan in a year, and can start the rebuild next summer by buying out Pau for his $6 million. Patty will also be very moveable in a year after FA.

And hope the young guys develop. If they catch lightening in a bottle with Walker, could be a lot of fun.

I've got realistic expectations with Walker after seeing him in summer play. He's got a lot of potential but he's a good 2 or 3 years away from contributing anything significant.

[exstatic]

Sure he has value $83 FREAKING MILLION over the NEXT 3 years ...that is a heck of a "value".

Look he is far from trash and he is a good scorer who never gets hurt.
But dont try and bull me with the he will generate numerous picks talk.
Only reason Toronto could get KL for DD was because they threw in a pick and Poetl.

Stop it.

$27.X mil per year for a multiple time A.S. and All NBA player? That is actually a value in today's NBA.

Now, BEFORE the cap blew up..there was this one team...they paid some old dude with a torn achilles $50M for two years. THAT was a terrible value.

[BillMc]

Look at it this way -- the Lakers missed the playoffs more times in the last five years than the Spurs have in their 45 year history.

well said

[objective]

DD was All NBA twice, and that's not a paper award. Top 6 guard in the league, at a minimum, depending on which team he makes. That's a much higher bar than All Star.

Oh, and we pretty much had a gaping hole at SF last year. Some guy sat out.

DeRozan won't be an all-star this coming season, I'd be shocked if he was.

And the Spurs did have a gaping hole, but filled it okay with Anderson and Green on defense.

It's much, much worse now. Marco? DeRozan who is a slight SG and non defender? Maybe rolling small again with Forbes at the three?

[TD 21]

DeRozan won't be an all-star this coming season, I'd be shocked if he was.

And the Spurs did have a gaping hole, but filled it okay with Anderson and Green on defense.

It's much, much worse now. Marco? DeRozan who is a slight SG and non defender? Maybe rolling small again with Forbes at the three?

DeRozan is strong, but he's relatively short armed (6'9''). Expect Cunningham to start at SF, but really it'll be filled by committee, with a combination of him, DeRozan, Belinelli and Gay.

[Marcus Bryant]

Look at it this way -- the Lakers missed the playoffs more times in the last five years than the Spurs have in their 45 year history.