Time will tell.
Say Kawhi leaves Toronto next year, but doesn't go to LA. Builds a super team in Brooklyn. They could have 50 to 70 million in cap room. Sean Marks Spurs trained is Nets GM. In the Sutton's backyard, under Dolan and the Knicks nose, and the Nets wouldn't need to use draft picks because Kawhi, Kyrie, and Jimmy Butler are all UFA next summer. Also, you don't have to share the spotlight with LBJ in LA. You don't have to put up with that fan base who are even vandalizing pictures of LBJ. And you'll still have the media on your side because you are in their backyard in New York.
Leaving Toronto would hasten the rebuild, so knock them from contention, so you only have to deal with Boston and Philly to get to Finals. Kawhi is going to stay in the East, the Sutton's will get Uncle Dennis to do their dirty work to make sure that happens. He can visit LA in the off season.
Only way Spurs come out winners is if nephew can't make it through the season without more knee problems.
I don't get the dumping on Kawhi's abilities. If healthy he's proven he's a top 3 player. The Spurs were on the verge of beating the Warriors in game 1 in the playoffs with him healthy.
Who ever gets the best player wins the deal, every time. Unless they completely break up their future like the Nets did when they traded KG and PP. In saying that, we did pretty well considering. We got an Allstar SG and likely future starting center.
Meh, spurs did the best they could do it seems.
Could take a year or maybe two to see who “won”
if kawhi picks up where he left of in 2017 and resigns, then obviously raptors win, but we have to wait a while to see if that’s the case
as for DD, I see his game benefiting in the spurs system, so we could possibly see an improvement.. would be nice if Chip could fix his shot but I’m guessing he’s too old to try to change?’
The spurs . Kawhi will never be 100% healthy again
Who knows. The season will have to play out to tell. The Cavs definitely lost the Irving trade last season for sure, they should have traded LeBron to Lakers and kept Irving, lol.
If Kawhi leaves TOR, we received a multiple time AS and multiple time All NBA player for a fading SG and an ending contract rental.
#winning
Truth bomb
Raptors, easily. but you can't blame them at all both did their best at this point.
Bottom line IMHO. A player who doesn't want to be on your team is not going to give you 100%. Kawhi made it clear he didn't want to be in San Antonio any more Sooooooo. He would not have been a top player this year had he stayed. Hopefully DDR doesn't share the same opinion about playing in SA. That said, We won on the matter of KL. Now factor in Danny..... Time will tell.
We just don't know how to deal with malcontents here in Spurs country. Even if we do get one or two, it's generally "good riddance to you". Our stars don't shun us for elsewhere. We just don't know how to handle it. Now if we were say, a Cleveland, or a Denver, or a Portland or a Miami maybe we would know how to take being shunned. We just need to get over it and move on. Let's see what the future brings.
yep, I expect K to sit out a lot of games, chronically damaged goods, play less games than Derozan.
So when he does play, he will look like he did in the 9 games of last season, out of sync, way below par.
Also not to sleep on Poeltl and that 20-30 first round pick, which could be combined with our pick for a top 14-18 pick instead. Spurs could get 3 good players out of this. It may just take a while.
Because we can all agree that Green was well below his peak and he wasn't going to return to form again.
Depends on Kawhi's health status.
Fully recovered -> Raptors won
Damaged goods -> Spurs won
Kawhi healthy or not, doesn't stay with the Spurs.
If they had gotten OG and swapped Mills for Green, the Spurs easily win this trade in the respect that they got everything they could have asked for. As it was, SA only really got a small part of their ideal package, and how that works out over the next two seasons will determine if they won or not. DeRozan by himself isn't so good that going for him made sense. They have to capitalize on recouping this much talent, or they might as well have moved for picks/role-players and tried to hit on mid-firsts for the foreseeable future.
Easy question, difficult answer.
As of today: easily Toronto.
If you view it in the lense of what did each team hope to accomplish going into a deal? TOR accomplished every single one of their goals. SA did not.
That does not mean things won’ evolve but TOR is the only team that checked every single box and considering they were the ones chasing the best asset? Huge accomplishment.
DDR vs. a player who quit on the Team.
Hmm.
Spurs.
We got an all-star plus a solid bench big (maybe a possible starter) and a pick which we can use for trade / cash purposes.
Plus, we didn't trade with the Lakers. Hart, Kuzma and all those guys are trash. They're arguing about their rating on NBA2K. Really?! That's the trash you all want in the locker room?
Thanks....howd you know all these stuff?
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First rule, follow the money. Not the media. Uncle Dennis's Protocol marketing firm hasn't been rolling like he wants, and Frankel, Kawhi's technical agent, has been in debt past his eyeballs for many years. The kicker of interest for me was the lawsuit in Florida. That was spearheaded by Kawhi's first representative, Mr Elfus, getting Kawhi to directly said that Kawhi paid the money to IMPACT so this man should receive his commission for the contracts Kawhi signed with Spurs. Only IMPACT allegedly never paid him. Download it off the Internet. It's free. Any reporter can access it and it will lead you straight to Jeff and Joseph Sutton. Then you Google them and I found the Forbes article. It's all there to find, you just have to look and read.
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