Tony Parker didn't get enough credit

[SpursDynasty85]

But why the do you say it?! It's dumb to think the reason why people were pissed with that comment is because we thought that's what made the Heat change their game plan. It's just that as your teammate, you want to encourage their play not question their success.

Wasn't questioning their success at all. Some people don't understand context. Reporters were surprised and asking how Danny Green is lighting it up and Tony was complimenting Danny's shooting. It may slightly be a cultural thing but I fully took it as a compliment.

[TimmyBuckets]

Is Parker the best point guard ever at finishing in the paint?  Was he the fastest ever?

imho, he was the best finisher in the paint. idk if he was the fastest, but his speed coupled with his craftiness, made him the best inside.

[daslicer]

Is Parker the best point guard ever at finishing in the paint? 🎨 Was he the fastest ever?

i would say in my lifetime Parker and Kevin Johnson are the fastest. It's hard to say whose quicker out of the 2. Both were also great finishers in the paint but I'll give Parker the edge since he had great footwork compared to Kevin.

[SpurPadre]

Don't argue with Salvadoreans about MVParker, sons.

THIS, tbh.

[Since89]

He is the fourth greatest Spurs player.
Tim



DROB














Manu
Parker

[TimmyBuckets]

He is the fourth greatest Spurs player.
Tim



DROB














Manu
Parker

Gervin? Averaged 33 at one point and 25 for his career. https://www.basketball-reference.com...gervige01.html

[Chucho]

Crazy when you consider that our Big Three were all Franchise Players at one point to the Spurs Organization.

[Stabula]

Dumbest reason out of the 5. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are to believe the Heat were going to leave Danny Green open in an elimination game after what had happened the previous several games. It was not going to happen regardless of what Parker said.

Yeah blows my mind when people mention that leaving Danny open comment. Do these people really think they saw Parker's post game interview and went "Ohh that's what we're doing wrong. Good thing Parker clued us into playing defense on a prolific sharpshooter!"

[Joe Budd]

i would say in my lifetime Parker and Kevin Johnson are the fastest. It's hard to say whose quicker out of the 2. Both were also great finishers in the paint but I'll give Parker the edge since he had great footwork compared to Kevin.

Do you think that Parker in his prime is faster than Westbrook?

[daslicer]

Do you think that Parker in his prime is faster than Westbrook?

Yes he was definitely faster than Westbrook. In the 2012 WCF a young Westbrook had trouble staying in front of Parker that the Thunder switched Thabo Sefolosha on Parker after game 2 for the rest of the series.

Go to 1:53 in this clip to get a good idea of how fast Tony Parker used to be. I'll never forget this play from his rookie year in which he went the full distance of the court and Kobe-Fisher-Fox are all in front of him by several feet and he still manages to out run all of them and score the layup.

[DMC]

Only guette here is you, Cheeto puff fingers.

"muh Tony"

[DMC]

I doubt he missed Kawhi for a layup or dunk on a fast break. Kawhi eventually got handed over the keys and became a superstar, what's your point? No one predicted how good he could become.

When I had good games, when I was playing well, I felt like Tony was the guy to really go against me, to go behind my back to Pop to play (Manu) Ginobili, to play other guys because he wanted the credit.

"I'm going to give you a perfect example. We was up 2-0 against the Thunder, my last year with the Spurs in (2012). They came back and won three games straight. But game six in OKC, I was having a of a game. I had six threes. Me and Kawhi (Leonard) was playing well.

"At the end of the game, when my six threes and other guys shots got us back in the game, Tony came in the game and tried to save the day and stopped playing team ball. We ended up losing that series. I kind of felt like that while he was on the sidelines, he was over there saying sneaky stuff to players and the coaches about getting back in the game so he can try to get his own personal achievements in the game and that's why we lost.

"Pop wouldn't say that. But I remember right after the game, me, Kawhi and Tim (Duncan) were sitting down after we lost, he came over there and said 'I should have rode you guys, You all did everything you could.' That's his way of saying I should not have put Tony in the game." -Jax

His own teammate. But let's ask you.

[TimmyBuckets]

-Jax.

Nuff said lol

[eric365]

Manu was the Spurs' leading MVP vote getter in three of those years: '08, '10 and '11. Parker was the Spurs best player in '12 and '13.

Funny how MVP votes matters for this argument but you'll diminish if if I use it to say that Tony had a way better peak, more years as elite

MVP Award Shares for Tony :
2005-06 NBA 0.007 (9)
2006-07 NBA 0.001 (15)
2008-09 NBA 0.007 (8)
2010-11 NBA 0.002 (12)
2011-12 NBA 0.274 (5)
2012-13 NBA 0.071 (6)
2013-14 NBA 0.017 (12)

MVP Award Shares for Manu :
2007-08 NBA 0.007 (10)
2009-10 NBA 0.002 (11)
2010-11 NBA 0.017 (8)

It just show how fans use any stats / award the way it fits their agenda

[SpursDynasty85]

When I had good games, when I was playing well, I felt like Tony was the guy to really go against me, to go behind my back to Pop to play (Manu) Ginobili, to play other guys because he wanted the credit.

"I'm going to give you a perfect example. We was up 2-0 against the Thunder, my last year with the Spurs in (2012). They came back and won three games straight. But game six in OKC, I was having a of a game. I had six threes. Me and Kawhi (Leonard) was playing well.

"At the end of the game, when my six threes and other guys shots got us back in the game, Tony came in the game and tried to save the day and stopped playing team ball. We ended up losing that series. I kind of felt like that while he was on the sidelines, he was over there saying sneaky stuff to players and the coaches about getting back in the game so he can try to get his own personal achievements in the game and that's why we lost.

"Pop wouldn't say that. But I remember right after the game, me, Kawhi and Tim (Duncan) were sitting down after we lost, he came over there and said 'I should have rode you guys, You all did everything you could.' That's his way of saying I should not have put Tony in the game." -Jax

His own teammate. But let's ask you.

Never said he was a perfect player but your using the biggest hypocrite in the game, the guy who literally got kicked off the team, talks crap at the same time says he respects the Spurs.

Ok if we are going to use him, everyone knows Pop has full autonomy in how his team plays. If Tony dominates the ball it's because he wanted it that way. Tony knows his role well and he tried to perform it. Your going to cite one instance ok f when Tony could've played more team ball vs the other countless times he carried or had a major role in the most winner franchise in 20 years? Ok. It's set in stone, you're a hater. NEXT!

[DAF86]

Funny how MVP votes matters for this argument but you'll diminish if if I use it to say that Tony had a way better peak, more years as elite

MVP Award Shares for Tony :
2005-06 NBA 0.007 (9)
2006-07 NBA 0.001 (15)
2008-09 NBA 0.007 (8)
2010-11 NBA 0.002 (12)
2011-12 NBA 0.274 (5)
2012-13 NBA 0.071 (6)
2013-14 NBA 0.017 (12)

MVP Award Shares for Manu :
2007-08 NBA 0.007 (10)
2009-10 NBA 0.002 (11)
2010-11 NBA 0.017 (8)

It just show how fans use any stats / award the way it fits their agenda

Why the do you assume I would do that? You do know that I said that Tony is ahead of Manu in the Spurs all-time list, right? Maybe you should be a little less prejudiced, tbh.

I just pointed that out because the guy I quoted said that Tony was the Spurs best player from 2007 to 2014, and that's obviously not true; and a good way to prove that is to show that other Spurs players finished ahead of him on the MVP voting during that time frame.

[TheGreatYacht]

DAF86 is a good dude despite being Argie tbh

[Stabula]

Tony is the third best Spur all time Manu is fourth

[TimmyBuckets]

Tony is the third best Spur all time Manu is fourth

Gervin?

[John B]

Tony is the third best Spur all time Manu is fourth

Wow did you just put The Iceman to 5th?

[ElNono]

Don't wonder after that why people think TP does't give enough credit here.

He's not only a surefire HOF but probably first ballot. Something every pundit, analyst, other team fan have aknoledged for years now, as big 3 was regularly referenced as "3 fututre Hofers".

Don't ask either people to give any credit to your takes after that. It is what it is.

Maybe just trolling, I don't know.

You sound upset. Tell me more.

[Stabula]

Wow did you just put The Iceman to 5th?

Yes

[ElNono]

He's not an interesting person. His interviews are almost always scripted and repe ive. He's known to dribble too long, freeze out anyone not named Tim Duncan and has that French "better than you" at ude that seems to filter through the scripted sessions. He was unstoppable as a scorer in his prime, but there were enough negatives about him to make even Spurs fans dislike him. He was the an hesis to the Spurs creed of self sacrifice for the good of the team, and as soon as the bench reared its head, off he went to another city.

Well put, tbh. The biggest knock is probably that he had the biggest ego out there, which is not a terrible knock on a league full of selfish player, but on a team with selfless leaders, he stuck out like a sore thumb, tbh...

[SASdynasty!]

When I had good games, when I was playing well, I felt like Tony was the guy to really go against me, to go behind my back to Pop to play (Manu) Ginobili, to play other guys because he wanted the credit.

"I'm going to give you a perfect example. We was up 2-0 against the Thunder, my last year with the Spurs in (2012). They came back and won three games straight. But game six in OKC, I was having a of a game. I had six threes. Me and Kawhi (Leonard) was playing well.

"At the end of the game, when my six threes and other guys shots got us back in the game, Tony came in the game and tried to save the day and stopped playing team ball. We ended up losing that series. I kind of felt like that while he was on the sidelines, he was over there saying sneaky stuff to players and the coaches about getting back in the game so he can try to get his own personal achievements in the game and that's why we lost.

"Pop wouldn't say that. But I remember right after the game, me, Kawhi and Tim (Duncan) were sitting down after we lost, he came over there and said 'I should have rode you guys, You all did everything you could.' That's his way of saying I should not have put Tony in the game." -Jax

His own teammate. But let's ask you.

So let me get this straight:

The guy who averaged 1.3 APG in that series is telling the guy who averaged 6.3 that he’s not a team player? Cool.

And in the G6 Jackson is talking about, Parker had 12 assists. Jackson had 1. Lol.

[JPB]

You sound upset. Tell me more.

Are there really people in 2018 who are still resorting to the hilarious beta "upset" move when exposed and nothing to answer ?
This is forum, smart boy. If you don't want people to answer... don't post. It will avoid you a lot of embarassment.

Let me try...

Duncan
DRob
Manu
Gervin

Basically the only 4 Hall of Fame worthy Spurs, tbh...

You sound mad, tell me more.

oh wow, so this is how it feels to hide in your safe space.