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Agree. I think the nba hasn’t seen the best of DeMar yet. His defense will definitely be better. I see a lot of Kobe in him as a fierce compe or trying to improve even more. I really hope he makes all-NBA.
Me, too. DeMar is a so likeable guy. Like Rudy Gay said, DeMar will love to play for the Spurs and the fans will love him...I guess this new season will be the best season of his career.
Agree. I think the nba hasn’t seen the best of DeMar yet. His defense will definitely be better. I see a lot of Kobe in him as a fierce compe or trying to improve even more. I really hope he makes all-NBA.
DeMar is naturally a better offensive player than Kawhi. In the Spurs system, he's going to get better.
Sorry. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Kawhi is much better offensively as well.
Toronto will regret the salary dump when they are facing years of mediocrity.
Yeah they are so hoping Kawhi pulls a Paul George and stays with them instead of signing with one of the LA teams.
No, they won't. They knew beforehand that it was a probability, but it's still more than worth it. All that team was missing from having a real shot at being a Curry or Durant injury away from a chance at a championship was a superstar in DeRozan's place and 3 and D wings. The Spurs gave them both at a discount price.
It's almost impossible to get to that position in this league. If you're lucky, that's the type of opportunity that comes around once in a front office executive's career. If you don't take it out of fear of years of mediocrity to follow, you might as well be in another business.
It is still a risk no matter how you look at it for Toronto. Toronto has never had a major free agent acquisition nor have they ever had one of their star prospects sign a longterm contract (besides Derozan). They felt they made the right decision but if in 4-5 years (assuming Kawhi leaves and the other big contracts get dumped) and they are still terrible, Drake no longer shows up, fans start to leave, it could be said "they should've just kept Derozan". But a lot of years before then so they are trusting their GM big time to make a possible rebuild work or make Kawhi sign. One thing is for sure.
The point was to position themselves to tank if he doesn't re-sign. Mediocrity is NBA death. You tank, then you come out the other side.
It won't be worth it unless they win a le which is highly unlikely unless the Warriors team plane crashes along with the Rockets,Celtics, and the Sixers. Like I said before they are going to regret it once they don't win a le and are stuck in years of mediocrity after Kawhi bolts. It's easy for them to say they are prepared for it but I don't buy into that bs. Living in Charlotte I have seen firsthand what being mediocre for years does to the morale of a franchise along with the fan base.
No, they won't. They knew beforehand that it was a probability, but it's still more than worth it. All that team was missing from having a real shot at being a Curry or Durant injury away from a chance at a championship was a superstar in DeRozan's place and 3 and D wings. The Spurs gave them both for a discount price. If you're lucky, that's the type of opportunity that comes around once in a front office executive's career.
It's almost impossible to get to that position in this league. If you don't trade for it out of fear of years of mediocrity to follow, you might as well be in another business.
Uh, DeRozan did.
Tanking is no guarantee for success. Trust me of I have seen it first hand with my home team the Hornets. They have tanked for years and still haven't been able to get a superstar player or become even a decent playoff team.
They haven't tanked yet. They're bad to mediocre, but they have yet to go full tank. They keep doing trades trying to stay afloat. Tanking is stripping any and all assets, and renting out your cap room for draft choices for a period of years until those draft choices plus your own high ones lift you back into the playoffs.
Yea edited my comment. But that does not help your argument. The fact that the only star player that did resign is the one the franchise traded for a rebuild. Unless the rebuild works well, it is something to look back on and reflect. It's a risk. PERIOD but one that they thought they had to make.
Was this before or after letting some worthless punk him and make him look re ed on YouTube?And DM posted this yesterday. There's probably a serious/work mentality going on in the gym.
They tanked hardcore get Anthony Davis several years ago and it didn't work out. They ended up with Kidd-Gilchrist. I have yet to see a team outside of the Sixers succeed with extreme tanking and even that took some luck.
I didn't say it wasn't a risk; it inarguably is. But it's so difficult to even get within' one thing happening of conceivably having a chance at a championship in this league, that the opportunity should take precedent.
If the Raptors, like most of the league, can't attract a superstar and have no means to get one outside of fluking out in the draft (which becomes more difficult when you're picking where they mostly have recently), then isn't that all the more reason why this made sense for them?
This is a superstar driven league. Without one, you don't have the starting point of a path to championship contention.
It will be because for the first time in their franchise history, they have a chance to win a championship (again, with the Curry/Durant injury caveat).
Years of mediocrity was likely coming relatively soon anyway. Lowry is an aging, small guard. And they would have had a difficult decision to make in 2-3 years with DeRozan. Sign an aging, flawed star, who's game doesn't project to age well, to an albatross or let the most beloved player in franchise history walk and have a PR nightmare.
This got them out of that. Sure, it won't be easy to build back to what they had, but it's damn near impossible to build to what they have now.
Seattle/OKC turned out pretty well. They were bad enough to get KD, Westchuck&Ibaka, and Harden in consecutive drafts.
But they MOVED cities! ouch for the Seattle fans no?
Doesn't change the fact that they tanked probably better than PHI did. The fact that their owner threw that magnificent accomplishment away with both hands by refusing to pay the tax, at the time, doesn't tarnish the success of drafting 3 NBA MVPs in consecutive years.
For sure. Sam Presti drafted some good guys. Too bad he chose Westbrook and Ibaka over Harden. Probably screwed them out of a championship.
The OKC model of drafting tends not to be the norm for the majority of franchises that tank. Charlotte/Orlando to me is more the likely scenario you get from tanking.
Too bad their owner cheaped out and made any choice necessary. I can see Presti's logic, though, because Harden and Westbrook are close to being redundant. Presti kept a PG, a SF, and a PF. People forget how feared a shot blocker Ibaka was. Before he aged out, he was a shotblocker, a rebounder, and had a 3 point shot. I think if Presti had a crystal ball, he probably would have offloaded Ibaka, or maybe dumped Perkins earlier.
Yea. But who would've thought Westbrook could be such a selfish pg. He is even being lauded for it. Boggles my mind. Hindsight is 20/20 Harden is a much better pg and sg.
I've always though Westbrook would be a better sg because his on ball decision making is so bad.
Ibaka turned into sort of a bust but was a good compliment if Westbrook had actually turned into a higher IQ ball player.
Ultimately, KD is still a chump. Haha.
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