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    He didnt. He was speculating as to a possibility given what little we know. That’s why it was reckless and stupid.
    come now, you surely can't rule out that someone else was whispering in his ear. he didn't pick the people out of a hat.

    to take one of your favored rhetorical tropes, "it is entirely possible that..."

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    They didn’t steal anything. They learned from Harry Reid that when you run the Senate you can change the rules to your benefit. That’s very different then accusing Garland of attempted rape with no evidence.
    I don't care if rat er Kavanaugh is innocent (not that I'm conceding it), if it kills the nomination I'm all for it after what McConnell and your party did to steal Obama's nomination.

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    there was whispering campaign priming the pump for Mr. Whelen's disclosure starting a few days ago -- you yourself were part of it here, cd98.

    hard to imagine he wasn't sharing with others and others with him in advance.

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    come now, you surely can't rule out that someone else was whispering in his ear. he didn't pick the people out of a hat.
    He said it was a PR firm. But imagine, he concocts a story with more verifiable facts and it’s immediately proven false and reckless. Is that why Ford keeps dodging?

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    huh? you're starting to lose it

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    there was whispering campaign priming the pump for Mr. Whelen's disclosure starting a few days ago -- you yourself were part of it here, cd98.

    hard to imagine he wasn't sharing with others and others with him in advance.

    What’s your conspiracy theory?

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    there was a whispering campaign priming the pump for Mr. Whelen's disclosure starting a few days ago -- you yourself were part of it here, cd98.
    yet you disbelieve coordination with anyone other than the unnamed PR company.

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    What’s your conspiracy theory?
    I don't have one. I was hoping cd98 would, since he had one at the ready for Ms Ford. He blames an unnamed PR company.

    How would you explain it?

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    Lol
    Gee, oppressing a woman right to speak is just so goddamn funny. Good one dude

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    IIRC, statute of limitations on rape range from 3 to 30 years, so going to denounce this at a police station now after 35 years would serve no purpose in seeking justice from the judiciary.

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    Orrin Hatch's office said to watch for Ed Whelan's exculpatory bombs three days ago. Do you really buy that Whelan wasn't shopping it around?

    Hard to believe it got so badly oversold.

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    Gee, oppressing a woman right to speak is just so goddamn funny. Good one dude
    Who’s keeping her from speaking?

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    IIRC, statute of limitations on rape range from 3 to 30 years, so going to denounce this at a police station now after 35 years would serve no purpose in seeking justice from the judiciary.
    I’ve seen reported there is no statute of limitations in Maryland, so hypothetically she could. But realistictly, if you can’t explain where it happened, when, how you got there, the basic facts on something that happened around 35 years ago, no one is investigating that. There’s nothing to investigate. There are no leads. That’s why it’s the perfect allegation. Can’t be proved or disproved. It’s a nasty allegation that just has to be made and it creates a presumption in half the country that he’s a rapist. That’s very dangerous.

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    there is no statute of limitations in Maryland, so hypocritically she could
    slip of the tongue?

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    nice edit

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    yet you disbelieve coordination with anyone other than the unnamed PR company.
    I believe he engaged in reckless speculation and got burned. Judging by Fords dodges, I’d guess her story will catch and burn if she ever dares to testify under oath.

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    I’m on the I phone. Auto correct.

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    Ed Whelan let you down. He let a lot of people down, presumably including Mr. Kavanaugh.

    He put the megaphone to his lips and what came out was bull .

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    I’m on the I phone. Auto correct.
    Maybe your phone knows you better than you do. Predictive function?

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    Ed Whelan let you down. He let a lot of people down, presumably including Mr. Kavanaugh.

    He put the megaphone to his lips and what came out was bull .
    I think we’d all like a straight answer. He didn’t have one. But the burden of proof is on the accuser. It’s logical that you can’t expect anyone to prove a negative. Your focus shouldn’t be on big players. It is on your star witness. Will she testify under oath or continue to dodge?

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    Maybe your phone knows you better than you do. Predictive function?
    Yes bc reporting crimes to the police is hypocritical. My I phone is just detecting all the people here from the party of Kennedy and Clinton that all of a sudden consider rape wrong. Unfortunately you only care when there are no consequences to your political party.

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    I think we’d all like a straight answer. He didn’t have one. But the burden of proof is on the accuser. It’s logical that you can’t expect anyone to prove a negative. Your focus shouldn’t be on big players. It is on your star witness. Will she testify under oath or continue to dodge?
    I have no idea, Ms. Blasey Ford isn't my star. She's a player in the play.

    I think it's a mistake to speak of proof or standards of proof at all, since, as you've pointed out repeatedly, the claim is unfalsifiable and the venue is not a proper judicial tribunal. In Popperian terms, Blasey's allegation not a valid object of science.

    It is, however, a proper object of rhetoric and persuasion, and that is where the battle will be joined. It will be decided by a political body, the Judiciary Committee of the US Senate.
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    Yes bc reporting crimes to the police is hypocritical. My I phone is just detecting all the people here from the party of Kennedy and Clinton that all of a sudden consider rape wrong. Unfortunately you only care when there are no consequences to your political party.
    The Democratic Party is not my party. I'm not a member and I don't like them.

    I thought and still think Clinton is a rapey scoundrel. Kennedy, a prince Hal who never grew up to be the king. Didn't vote for Gore, Kerry or Obama. I'm not sure where you get this. If you check my trend of posting here, you'll not find much complementary about the Dems. The search function is your friend.

    I don't like the GOP either. I'd like to see a battle royale that decimates and discredits both parties.

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    it's an odd trope to blame anyone who merely disagrees with you with belonging to the political party you dislike.

    I'd have expected better of a lawyer, but I guess that's just my silly naivete again.

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