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    a close reading of the hearing. takes Kavanaugh apart on a granular level.

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    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/...naugh-is-lying
    Where doubt should exist I would agree, but where criminal charges are brought, I don't. There's a reason we have a judicial system. Maybe we should start public hangings based on accusations alone.

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    just to leave zero doubt on my credibility.

    This is what an innocent person would do.
    which is of course why K won't do it, and why the Repugs have classified all but a tiny bit of K's do ents.

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    If you watched the entirety of the show - this is not surprising.
    Here is where I really feel that he is unqualified;

    Kavanaugh absolutely refused to answer ANY political or questions regarding policy, law & the consitutional issues of our time -claiming some impartiality on everything. He always blabbered on about his favorite dodge- "precedent."

    Every time he was asked a YES OR NO question - he dissembled, refused to answer YES or NO - rambled on about 3 other cases/rulings until time ran out.
    I get that he did not want to taint any future ruling - he might one day face - but it all went to - when he testified on the last day and completely discarded his impartiality and pretty much recited the FOX news/right wing nut job bible.

    He is a complete liar and a partisan right wing operative.
    Not qualified to be a sc justice.


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    Agreed - but I'll simplify it even more - THIS - is what I feel an honest person would say from the very beginning;

    I did drink as a young man and maybe even did some irresponsible things.
    (of course deny whatever is alleged)

    Furthermore, I absolutely do not want there to be any question - so yes - I will ask the committee to please pause on this process - release 100% of all my public do ents for review, re-open a full FBI investigation since new allegations surfaced and I will submit to a polygraph examination - just to leave zero doubt on my credibility.


    This is what an innocent person would do.
    I would even bring up some irresponsible things. “But I never did, and never have done what Dr. Ford has accused me of. Ever. And continue to pound this. Say it every way possible. And find a way to get this in during questions instead of your RedSox games and fckn calendars that your deceased dad blessed you with.

    Because he is not lying about the Democrats motives, he uses this to enrage himself. It’s like getting into character. So he can seriously get enraged about this and what his family has gone through.

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    Agreed - but I'll simplify it even more - THIS - is what I feel an honest person would say from the very beginning;

    I did drink as a young man and maybe even did some irresponsible things.
    (of course deny whatever is alleged)

    Furthermore, I absolutely do not want there to be any question - so yes - I will ask the committee to please pause on this process - release 100% of all my public do ents for review, re-open a full FBI investigation since new allegations surfaced and I will submit to a polygraph examination - just to leave zero doubt on my credibility.


    This is what an innocent person would do.
    This is because you're stupid. You'd probably tell a cop they could search your vehicle in an attempt to appear innocent, they'd find an old beer can beneath your passenger seat and you'd get a ticket for open container. You never give up your right to privacy, because absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You'll still be assumed guilty by the same people who wanted you checked. The tendency to misuse what they do find is why you don't provide more fodder.

    If the FBI finds nothing on Kavanaugh, the left will not change their opinion one iota. He's still a a child rapist to them. They will instead consider the FBI to be paid off. Since he was nominated they've had one acceptable outcome - non confirmation.

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    This is because you're stupid. You'd probably tell a cop they could search your vehicle in an attempt to appear innocent, they'd fine an old beer can beneath your passenger seat and you'd get a ticket for open container. You never give up your right to privacy, because absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. You'll still be assumed guilty by the same people who wanted you checked. If the FBI finds nothing on Kavanaugh, the left will not change their opinion one iota. He's still a a child rapist to them.
    This is what a Trump cult follower would say - because you always think "liberal conspiracy."
    This has nothing to do with your rights to unlawful search & seizure - this was a job interview for one of the toughest jobs to get in the USA.
    Right to privacy my ass - this is a process where you know you will be scrutinized from birth until the day you are sworn in and if you have skeletons - don't even apply for it- period.

    When Kavanaugh was on the Bush team and the Ken Starr team and he wanted the slimiest details uncovered of a sitting president he thought it was ok for a president to get dragged into the gutter.
    Now that a Republican is president he has publicly opined that the president is above the law but he conveniently refused to acknowledge that he still believes that when asked during this hearing.
    Don't tell me that now his privacy is to be shielded when he just ruled on a case that a polygraph is ok to be used in a background investigation- but when he is the one being investigated - then he can hide behind the GOP and get rush-confirmed while covering up his past.

    Aside from having obese hands, your judgement is also unhealthy.

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    Kavanaugh lied about getting into Yale by merit. His grandfather was an alumn.

    "I have no connections there. I got there by busting my tail."
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

    So K, like C-student dubya, got into Yale on affirmative action

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    This is what a Trump cult follower would say - because you always think "liberal conspiracy."
    This has nothing to do with your rights to unlawful search & seizure - this was a job interview for one of the toughest jobs to get in the USA.
    Right to privacy my ass - this is a process where you know you will be scrutinized from birth until the day you are sworn in and if you have skeletons - don't even apply for it- period.

    When Kavanaugh was on the Bush team and the Ken Starr team and he wanted the slimiest details uncovered of a sitting president he thought it was ok for a president to get dragged into the gutter.
    Now that a Republican is president he has publicly opined that the president is above the law but he conveniently refused to acknowledge that he still believes that when asked during this hearing.
    Don't tell me that now his privacy is to be shielded when he just ruled on a case that a polygraph is ok to be used in a background investigation- but when he is the one being investigated - then he can hide behind the GOP and get rush-confirmed while covering up his past.

    Aside from having obese hands, your judgement is also unhealthy.
    All that stupid you just said means nothing. You don't volunteer to have your past laid out for public view. I don't recall any interview where the interviewer wanted me to have every aspect of my life made public so a group who wanted to see me burn alive could use it against me. That's what politics is, this is a political show. This is where the legislative branch gets their shots at the executive branch through the judicial branch. Now run along and Google what I am referring to.

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    excellent debate

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    Where doubt should exist I would agree, but where criminal charges are brought, I don't. There's a reason we have a judicial system. Maybe we should start public hangings based on accusations alone.
    failing to get a promotion on the basis of a bad interview isn't equivalent to a summary lynching.

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    goddamn, these rightwingnutjobs and their false equivalence metaphors and similes are ING STUPID, and too stupid to know they're bad-faith stupid.

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    The investigation could’ve been wrapped up by now with Dr. Ford’s iden y protected, but politics...

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    Lindsey Graham demands FBI investigate Senate Judiciary Democrats over Kavanaugh hearings

    Lindsey Graham has dedicated himself to finding who he believes are the real villains uncovered during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings — the Democrats.

    On ABC news’ “This Week,” Graham continued his defiant response presented during the hearing,

    vowing to “do a wholesale, full scale investigation of what I think was a de able process to deter it from happening again.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/lin...e+Raw+Story%29

    The Old Lesbian has tipped into partisan insanity. He will certainly go crawling to oligarchy for compaign funds,

    and then again after retirement for lobbying jobs.





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    All that stupid you just said means nothing. You don't volunteer to have your past laid out for public view. I don't recall any interview where the interviewer wanted me to have every aspect of my life made public so a group who wanted to see me burn alive could use it against me. That's what politics is, this is a political show. This is where the legislative branch gets their shots at the executive branch through the judicial branch. Now run along and Google what I am referring to.
    When you interviewed for a common job or a job - the bar is really low so I am not surprised that you have never been part of a rigorous process.
    Let us stay relevant to THIS situation; Three women have made credible accusations. This hearing was mainly addressing ONE of those women.
    He was under the gun - fair or not.
    He could have
    a) withdrawn from the process - just to not put himself and his family through it
    b) be 100% transparent and offered to remove the mystery by allowing for the fbi/polygraph/etc to clear his good name and get that SC Justice seat with no questions - no clouds over his nomination
    c) continue the cover up and dissemble, obfuscate, lie, deny and still not be open and transparent.


    He chose C.

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    The investigation could’ve been wrapped up by now with Dr. Ford’s iden y protected, but politics...
    But it didn’t happen that way. Deal with it. Unless you want to fast track a potential sex offender to the Supreme Court because politics...

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    What makes the allegations “credible”?

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    What makes the allegations “credible”?
    Do you believe the allegations against Harvey Weinstein?

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    Ted Lieu: No employer would hire sexual assault suspect who ‘yells at you’ and lies during interview

    “This is not a trial,” the California Democrat pointed out.

    “It is a job interview.

    There’s no employer in America that would hire a job applicant who has a credible allegation of sexual assault.

    And then during the interview,

    yells at you and makes false statements.

    No employer would hire that job applicant if there are other far more qualified people.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/ted...ies-interview/

    K is pretty ing dumb to have trusted whoever told him to come yelling, whining, moaning, crying, paranoid, blatantly partisan political, etc as how he could get job on SCOTUS.

    Dumb, corrupted Useful Idiots are exactly whom the oligarchy wants for its s.

    But Repugs aren't "employers", they aare corrupt assholes hired to pollute SCOTUS with s-in-robes. 4 down, 1 to go.




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    What makes the allegations “credible”?
    Which allegations? There are multiple.

    He's lying about his drinking problem
    Lying about the attempted rape
    Lying about even knowing some of his accusers
    Lying about attending these parties even

    Most of which even his classmates are now coming out and disputing. He lied under oath many times.

    That alone should disqualify him from serving in the supreme court let alone his old job now.

    He showed himself to be a partisan hack by going on that rant that completely exposed him. You dont want to see because you dont want to and you like it that way.

    There is plenty wrong with this guy.

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    Trash and his little are lying

    NBC crushes Sarah Sanders’ denial: White House is still hamstringing FBI with ‘limits’ on Kavanaugh probe

    “Two high level sources familiar with the matter tell our friend and colleague Ken Dilanian that

    the FBI has received no new instructions from the White House about how to proceed with this new investigation of sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh,” Bennett reported.


    “And these sources say that President Trump’s Saturday night tweets, saying he wants the FBI to interview whomever agents deem appropriate,

    has not changed the limits imposed by the White House counsel’s office on the FBI investigation,” Bennett continued.

    “Which as we’ve reported includes a specific witness list that does not include the third accuser, Julie Swetnick.”

    The NBC reporter noted that

    Kavanaugh’s former classmates are also “off the list” of permitted interviewees.


    “They describe [Kavanaugh] as a frequent, heavy drinker,” Bennett said. “I’m told by a senior official that the White House is the client in this process…

    It’s a background investigation in which the FBI is acting on behalf of the White House.

    The White House sets the parameters.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/nbc...vanaugh-probe/

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    How dare you, Julie is sweet, brave and is risking everything.
    Victimizing the victim all over again!

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    Rough evening for him

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    Which allegations? There are multiple.

    He's lying about his drinking problem
    Lying about the attempted rape
    Lying about even knowing some of his accusers
    Lying about attending these parties even

    Most of which even his classmates are now coming out and disputing. He lied under oath many times.

    That alone should disqualify him from serving in the supreme court let alone his old job now.

    He showed himself to be a partisan hack by going on that rant that completely exposed him. You dont want to see because you dont want to and you like it that way.

    There is plenty wrong with this guy.
    Totally even! Exposed partisan hack!

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    Lindsey Graham demands FBI investigate Senate Judiciary Democrats over Kavanaugh hearings

    Lindsey Graham has dedicated himself to finding who he believes are the real villains uncovered during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings — the Democrats.

    On ABC news’ “This Week,” Graham continued his defiant response presented during the hearing,

    vowing to “do a wholesale, full scale investigation of what I think was a de able process to deter it from happening again.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/lin...e+Raw+Story%29

    The Old Lesbian has tipped into partisan insanity. He will certainly go crawling to oligarchy for compaign funds,

    and then again after retirement for lobbying jobs.




    Maybe while they are at it - they can investigate whether;
    a) the GOP conspired in covering up Kavanaughs records from being released - with the white house
    b) investigate whether the GOP or the White house - paid for Mark Judge to be sequestered in a beach hideaway
    c) Did Lindsey Graham accept the 800,000 dollars from Russians - through the NRA funds

    For starters

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