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    Kawhi, in Charlotte, would have been MKG. MKG in SA would have been Kawhi. Physical gifts will only take you so far.

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    I'll bet I've watched the Spurs as much as you, and no we don't know that.

    If PATFO are such wizards at development how come they've only been able to do it once? Why not Kyle Anderson? They sure as heck spent a lot of time and effort with him. Why isn't Patty Mills another Chris Paul after basking so long in the glory of PATFO?

    Are you going to credit PATFO with Duncan, too? Ginobilli? Prime Parker?

    Would all those guys have been no better than bench warmers if not for PATFO?

    Spare me.

    What the Spurs coaches did with Kawhi was exactly the same thing they're supposed to do with every single player they get. Because it's their job. They get paid for what they do, and very well I hope. But no, they don't get a medal for simply doing their jobs.
    they made KA a defender ? do you remember his college game? thats a great development

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    There's a high chance Kawhi would have been great anywhere... U guys make it seem like spurs are the only team that drafts sleeper stars...
    They're the ones who have completely changed his shot. What other teams have a track record of changing horrific jump shots into major weapons like the Spurs did with both Kawhi and Tony Parker? He could have ended up like Fultz or Simmons with no jumper whatsoever. Leonard's jumper was complete dog coming into the league; DAF86's comparison of his jumper to soccer throw-ins isn't far from the truth.

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    That's like giving credit to OKC for developing Kevin Durant or the Bulls for developing Jimmy Butler or Biogenesis for developing Lebron James.
    KD was already special. More relevant comparison aside from Butler would be Paul George.

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    Kawhi, in Charlotte, would have been MKG. MKG in SA would have been Kawhi. Physical gifts will only take you so far.
    Kawhi's shot was never broken. MKG was a dead man's Shawn Marion, let's not be extreme here.

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    Do you re s not remember Kawhitter's shooting form and offense in general coming out of college?

    The autistic re already had a great body, work ethic, and desire to be great but to suggest the Spurs didn't play a huge role in his development is laughable. Honestly, how many teams have the balls to do something as simple as going up to their 1st round draft pick and telling them "your form sucks, we are going fix it". Look at Gonzo with the Lakers. Or any other player with a terrible shooting form.

    His postgame/fadeaway. Pop gave him tapes of guys like Kirby IIRC and had Forcier(?) tailor his workouts to that. Once the double teams came, he gave him tapes of Barkley to learn how to pass out of/read them. He and his agent wannabe unc are ungrateful s. Plain and simple. He'd be a ing nobody if he ended up in Sacramento or Orlando or any of the other perennial bottom dwellers.

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    Comparing Kawhi to Faried, Singleton, and MKG is autistic. I do agree tho that Spurs helped Kawhi maximize his potential tho. Will always be salty for it ending the way it did, but let's not minimize the player he was for this team. We don't ring if not for him.

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    Kawhi would still be shooting soccer throw-ins if not for the Spurs. ing ungrateful bas .
    What happened to Kyle Anderson?

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    Kawhi's shot was never broken. MKG was a dead man's Shawn Marion, let's not be extreme here.
    When people are angry they say dumb .

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    Kawhi was been compared to tweeners coming out of college. Our Magic Shooting Coach Fixed his shot. And in the First year he just shot open threes, and slashing. That's it. Zero offense. He had a bruce bowen role his first 2 years. Then in his 3rd year he gets his shots not on lebron, and while the defense was still aimed at stopping parker in 2014. So zero offense until we won in 2014 last 3 games in which he was a total dud the first 2 games. And he doesn't get all that playoff experience in any other team. For 3 ing years he was doing nothing but put backs and slashing. I just talked about a small portion of his beginnings. He wouldn't be where he is today without the Spurs. Facts.

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    When people are angry they say dumb .
    Didn't he shoot under 30% from the college 3PT line?

    But yeah, there was nothing wrong with his shot.
    Last edited by FkLA; 10-28-2018 at 06:00 PM.

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    Comparing Kawhi to Faried, Singleton, and MKG is autistic. I do agree tho that Spurs helped Kawhi maximize his potential tho. Will always be salty for it ending the way it did, but let's not minimize the player he was for this team. We don't ring if not for him.
    You don't know what autistic means, do you?

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    I agree with everything except Splitter.. we're dealing with a 1st round pick with international experience with him. He should have been at least a rotation player

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    Do you re s not remember Kawhitter's shooting form and offense in general coming out of college?

    The autistic re already had a great body, work ethic, and desire to be great but to suggest the Spurs didn't play a huge role in his development is laughable. Honestly, how many teams have the balls to do something as simple as going up to their 1st round draft pick and telling them "your form sucks, we are going fix it". Look at Gonzo with the Lakers. Or any other player with a terrible shooting form.

    His postgame/fadeaway. Pop gave him tapes of guys like Kirby IIRC and had Forcier(?) tailor his workouts to that. Once the double teams came, he gave him tapes of Barkley to learn how to pass out of/read them. He and his agent wannabe unc are ungrateful s. Plain and simple. He'd be a ing nobody if he ended up in Sacramento or Orlando or any of the other perennial bottom dwellers.
    Yeah, those saying otherwise are just idiots. Kawhi had the best shot doctor maybe in league history. He'd never be close to the offensive threat he is now without the Spurs staff.

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    You don't know what autistic means, do you?
    Mr Body is autistic, worst comparisons ever.

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    Kawhi brought the ball really far behind his head. He only could've become a great mid-range but not three-point shooter without Chip's help.

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    Without Spurs maybe he becomes a 2nd or 3rd tier star like Butler or George. Spurs helped make him top tier, I agree

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    At least he played and didn't sit out an entire year cause his uncle told him to. And actually went to Pop and talked to him instead of hiding from him in NY and not saying anything. Kawhi
    He talked to Pop because he had no choice... No one wanted him

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    Held back? WTF, dude. He'd still be a Faried with no jump shot. A nice defender who is a complete nullity on the other end.
    Spurs have the only shot trainers? No other team has players that improve on their jumper?

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    Without Spurs maybe he becomes a 2nd or 3rd tier star like Butler or George. Spurs helped make him top tier, I agree
    Depends. IMO, he'd be 2nd tier if drafted by an above average organization. 3rd tier if he had been drafted by an average organization. If drafted by Sacramento he'd be Harrison Barnes.

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    They're the ones who have completely changed his shot. What other teams have a track record of changing horrific jump shots into major weapons like the Spurs did with both Kawhi and Tony Parker? He could have ended up like Fultz or Simmons with no jumper whatsoever. Leonard's jumper was complete dog coming into the league; DAF86's comparison of his jumper to soccer throw-ins isn't far from the truth.
    R u serious? No other team has guys grow into great shooters?? U picked out two names in the past twenty years... And Parker was never a great shooter... He was just serviceable at best... U never had to go over the screens for Parker like u have to do for actual great shooters.. So if Kawhi was the ONLY person to exceed expectations with his skill level... Doesn't that tell u that it is Kawhi that made himself, and the Spurs only helped? Help that he would have gotten from any nba team? Spurs are very restrictive... They have much more busts than players they made great... And many times players have moved on to other teams and expanded their games... As I famously say... Curry would NEVER have been as good as he is now if drafted by the Spurs because Pop would neuter him and bench him the first time he pulled up from 40

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    Spurs have the only shot trainers? No other team has players that improve on their jumper?
    Apparently not in Philly... they ruin guys, or OKC.

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    R u serious? No other team has guys grow into great shooters??
    Name some names.

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    What happened to Kyle Anderson?
    Some players' shots just can't be fixed, tbh.

    I don't know why some Kawhi fans are getting so mad, what I'm saying about him isn't much of a secret, tbh.

    Kawhi got drafted, Engelland told him to stop shooting it from behind his head, and that was it. Who knows if other teams would have dared to change his form. Who knows if other teams would have even played Kawhi since his rookie season. Remember that, for example, in Indiana Kawhi would have been behind George and Granger on the pecking order. Kawhi getting drafted by San Antonio is the best thing that could happen to him.

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    He was by far my favorite player... Spurs did him wrong, no doubt...
    do you have irrefutable evidence? or spurstalk gossip?

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