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    Murray is not a defensive stopper any more than Draymond Green is. He doesn't remove the need for an impact defensive wing. Maybe Walker can be that. Even if Lonnie can, you want a combo-forward to be that final starter who can actually defend a James or Durant. We're talking somewhere between Bowen and Splitter.
    What would/could we give up for Ariza??

    Even if it’s not realistic what would it be? Lol
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    What would/could we give up for Ariza??

    Even if it’s not realistic what would it be? Lol
    Pau Gasol. Or Mills + one of Bertans/Belinelli. Gotta wait til December 15th though
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    Pau Gasol. Or Mills + one of Bertans/Belinelli. Gotta wait til December 15th though
    But if you’re PHX do you even consider that deal unless a first is attached?
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    But if you’re PHX do you even consider that deal unless a first is attached?
    well Phoenix seems wanting to move Ariza cause he's underperforming. They also need a back up PG/Shooter to play next to Booker. The reason they brought in Ariza was his veteran leadership/championship experience. So I assume they would like to get somebody like Mills. I think they'd do it.
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    Like I said Derozan is more talented offensively than kawhi..lol
    dunno man. if DD had a money 3 point shot i'd feel more comfortable making that statement
    he definitely runs an offense way better than kawhi ever could
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    that said hater is 100% correct

    outstanding trade
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    Locked down Simmons and gets an easy 31pts. Still dont like the Iso Kawhi pace though. I still favor DeStar’s offense + passing. Hope the team can get a new Kawhi level of defensive player on the next draft
    Who cares what looks prettier? Which one gets wins? We were destroying the warriors with Kawhi... U think demar can do that when he can't even beat Eastern conference teams?
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    Who cares what looks prettier? Which one gets wins? We were destroying the warriors with Kawhi... U think demar can do that when he can't even beat Eastern conference teams?
    The Spurs were going to get nothing for Kawhi. DeRozan isn’t a bad consolation prize. DeRozan >> Empty locker
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    dunno man. if DD had a money 3 point shot i'd feel more comfortable making that statement
    he definitely runs an offense way better than kawhi ever could
    Which game gets us further? Demar and his 3 more assists per game? Or Kawhi's entire game? U guys are focusing on nonsense
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    The Spurs were going to get nothing for Kawhi. DeRozan isn’t a bad consolation prize. DeRozan >> Empty locker
    DeMar is better than nothing... But let's stop pretending he and Kawhi are in the same weight class... Everyone else in the NBA would laugh at us if we tell them demar is better than kawhi... No team in the galaxy would choose demar
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    What would/could we give up for Ariza??

    Even if it’s not realistic what would it be? Lol
    Not much. I don't see him as having any future value, and without Murray, I don't think this year matters all that much. Maybe Mills and Bertans and a pick?
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    Not much. I don't see him as having any future value, and without Murray, I don't think this year matters all that much. Maybe Mills and Bertans and a pick?
    I agree..but if Spurs are over achieving and top tier record wise does that change your mindset?

    I know I’m fantasizing on Arizas perfect fit other than it being realistic lol
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    I agree..but if Spurs are over achieving and top tier record wise does that change your mindset?

    I know I’m fantasizing on Arizas perfect fit other than it being realistic lol
    Ariza can be had easily question is will patfo be willing to give mills, spurs might have to throw in pondexter too for numbers to work, just as long as it comes with a pick attached
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    Ariza can be had easily question is will patfo be willing to give mills, spurs might have to throw in pondexter too for numbers to work, just as long as it comes with a pick attached
    Why would the Suns trade Ariza's expiring for Mills' longer contract?
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    How is duncan2k5 a real human being?
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    Why would the Suns trade Ariza's expiring for Mills' longer contract?
    Still is semi young, just 1 extra year, pick is by far most important part

    patty is just easy easy on the numbers to work, fine go with pau
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    U guys are focusing on nonsense
    Says the guy who's focused on a player who doesn't even play for this franchise
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    Ariza can be had easily question is will patfo be willing to give mills, spurs might have to throw in pondexter too for numbers to work, just as long as it comes with a pick attached
    I think the question is/or should be would PHX want Mills?

    Forbes is clearly out playing him and White has a higher ceiling plus he’s cheaper...

    Would a pick have to be involved? Like Chinook said I dunno if realistically it’s worth it..
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    Ariza can be had easily question is will patfo be willing to give mills, spurs might have to throw in pondexter too for numbers to work, just as long as it comes with a pick attached
    I think the question is/or should be would PHX want Mills?

    Forbes is clearly out playing him and White has a higher ceiling plus he’s cheaper...

    Would a pick have to be involved? Like Chinook said I dunno if realistically it’s worth it..
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    I think the question is/or should be would PHX want Mills?

    Forbes is clearly out playing him and White has a higher ceiling plus he’s cheaper...

    Would a pick have to be involved? Like Chinook said I dunno if realistically it’s worth it..
    The pick is the main incentive , they’re rebuilding and probably think mills sux too. mills is to help the money match within 3 mill which is why I added pondexter in my original proposal
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    The Spurs were going to get nothing for Kawhi. DeRozan isn’t a bad consolation prize. DeRozan >> Empty locker
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    Says the guy who's focused on a player who doesn't even play for this franchise
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    Kawhi: 5.7 BPM, 0.254 WS/48, 27.0 PER, .610 TS%

    Demar: 4.4 BPM, 0.214 WS/48, 26.0 PER, 0.587 TS%
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    That’s a garbage trope. He played b2bs here, and certainly was never rested in October.
    They're treating him the way the Spurs did.
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    The Spurs were going to get nothing for Kawhi. DeRozan isn’t a bad consolation prize. DeRozan >> Empty locker
    Not to mention that The Group passed word that he wouldn’t be able to play THIS year, either. Bad quad, you know.
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