He lead the team but wasn't a leader? I don't remember anyone of his teammates complain about him when he was on he team.
Great leaders don't throw their teammates under the bus. Great leaders don't hold organizations hostage. Great leaders don't try to get their head coaches fired. Great leaders don't have their own infomercial to announce their next big decision.What? There are plenty of winners who are great leaders too: Timmy, Lebron, etc.. I feel like Im taking crazy pills.
leader?
Guarantee many are Spurs fans. Kawhi broke them
I didn't bring up the Kobe comparison, somebody else did. You don't actually follow basketball. Isn't it easier to just say that you dont follow basketball then to always be wrong? You can't compare the two bc Kawhi HAS NEVER played all 82 games. There's nothing revisionist about Kobe playing with a sideways pinky nor him sinking 2 free throws with a f***** torn Achilles. Lebron is the ultimate iron man in this age for sure, but Kobe is far more of an iron man than Kawhi. It's like you said, you can't even compare the two. And I didn't bring on this narrative. Is Kawhi hurt? Yes or no? Is he hurt? Bc he's missing games and he's not even hurt by his own admission, by his camps own admission, and his coaches. And YET he still isn't playing. But yes he's an iron man and this narrative that he doesn't play needs to go away. Change your name dude and your affiliation. You're not a Spurs fan
Doesn't even matter. Kawhi looks to have moved on while others stay bitter
Sup, ass wiper
Kawhi ting on the Spurms and their bitter fat fans
This is pretty accurate. During the Champions Revealed videos between Pop, Manu, Parker and Tim, Tim talks about how Avery Johnson was a true PG and Parker wasn't. They were used to Johnson telling them what to do and where to go while on the court.
I don't think any spur fan cared how good of a leader Kawhi was or wasn't. I would take Kawhi in a heartbeat if he wanted to come back. I would be ecstatic.
Most of us loved him. He was our new Gervin/Drob/Timmy. He was going to be a legend in SA if he continued here. But then last year happened. It really screwed up the fans they way it all went down. It truly sucks and wish it never happened.
Yea I agree with you there. Lebron does not come to mind when I think of great leaders
I mean
After spending 10 days before the All-Star break in New York consulting with a specialist to gather a second opinion on his right quad injury, All-NBA forward Kawhi Leonard bears the burden of determining when he’s prepared to play again, sources told ESPN.
Leonard has been medically cleared to return from the right quad tendinopathy injury, but since shutting down a nine-game return to the San Antonio Spursthat ended Jan. 13, he has elected against returning to the active roster, sources said. If Leonard returns, it will be because he has decided he can manage the pain of the injury, according to the sources.
You're right . . . but too stupid to understand why. It speaks to the way the league is covered today. The national media lines up to kiss superstars asses, essentially whoring themselves out to get an in with their "camp". Like I always say, it's like high-school.
It's also now fashionable to criticize everything Spurs. They never cozied up to them because they didn't play the game within' the game, but it was difficult to bash the most successful franchise of the past 20 years. Now that they've fallen off a cliff, it's open season.
Nah...People say Kawhi was ungrateful for leaving/not playing/whatever. What's about a coach who talks in public about a player that helped this team to stay relevant?
Like I've said before, both sides could have handled this better. Now, it's a total mess.
Pop taking shots at a former player, the 'mute' player responds...It's like a parallel world.It's about damn time this organization stopped taking the high road. It's gotten them nowhere. Their reputation has been dragged through the mud and no American superstar or star that doesn't consider this home was or is coming here anyway.
The s bag not only refused to play when healthy, but didn't even have the dignity or sense to stay in the same city as the team, while with holding medical information, despite them paying his ass in excess of $18M. There's nothing that can be said to justify that.
At referring to the 76ers, Celtics and Kings as "elite compe ion" and reading too much into random regular season games.
On the whole, relative to expectations, he's struggled. The supposed "top 3 player in the world" isn't within' sniffing distance of that.
Of course Pop was going to pretend a few years ago. He was on his team and the best player on it. Now, he can be honest.
And he did... But then THEY decided to sit him after he was still feeling pain from their misdiagnosis
Fam... U took one guy who played twenty years and pointed out a couple years he played full seasons... Kawhi hasn't even played 8 season yet... U can't compare the two... 8 years in Kobe only had one full season... He missed tons of games the others... Kawhi missed most of his games in the Pop era from Pop sitting starters... Not from actually being injured
He did play... And was clearly hurt... Ppl on here were even saying that he should sit... So the Spurs shut him down... He didn't shut down himself...
You're right . . . but too stupid to understand why. It speaks to the way the league is covered today. The national media lines up to kiss superstars asses, essentially whoring themselves out to get an in with their "camp". Like I always say, it's like high-school.
It's also now fashionable to criticize everything Spurs. They never cozied up to them because they didn't play the game within' the game, but it was difficult to bash the most successful franchise of the past 20 years. Now that they've fallen off a cliff, it's open season.
It's about damn time this organization stopped taking the high road. It's gotten them nowhere. Their reputation has been dragged through the mud and no American superstar or star that doesn't consider this home was or is coming here anyway.
The s bag not only refused to play when healthy, but didn't even have the dignity or sense to stay in the same city as the team, while with holding medical information, despite them paying his ass in excess of $18M. There's nothing that can be said to justify that.
On the whole, relative to expectations, he's struggled. The supposed "top 3 player in the world" isn't within' sniffing distance of that.
Of course Pop was going to pretend a few years ago. He was on his team and the best player on it. Now, he can be honest.
Pshhhhhhhhh, there is still not way to justify that crap lol.
duncan2k5 still blindly gobbling Kawhis knob I see
So then we are in agreement? Kawhi doesn't play 82 game seasons. He doesn't play when he's healthy to do so. He's healthy this year and he is sitting out games. Basically all I'm saying is that I don't think anyone outside of Lebron and Steph Curry are worth max money. I wouldn't pay Kawhi $43 million a year bc he won't give me more than like 70 games and he won't win me a le. We weren't winning the le with him as our number 1 option and I don't see him winning another le unless he joins LeBron. I could very well be wrong but this Toronto team looks like a second round exit to me again. He will leave them and go to LA and lead the Clippers to nowhere. That is looking like the career path that he has chosen and I'm happy for him but I don't want to hear about greatness from him again unless he joins LeBron.
I don't hate Kawhi like most of the forum and I strongly dislike what Pop has become, but how can anybody claim that Kawhi is a leader? He literally doesn't demonstrate any leadership skills whatsoever
He doesn't speak and his teammates joked about never hearing him talk even before all this smoke occurred between him and the franchise..
There's nothing wrong with that, you don't have to be both the best player and leader(Kobe, Durant, etc), but no need to be delusional..
Lol the raptors are stacked.
The media and people who always had issues with Pop and the Spurs being good every season is really loving all this Kawhi .
Anybody who actually followed this team knew Kawhi for as great as he was, wasn’t a leader on the team.
The funniest part is folks trying to compare how Tim lead the time to how Kawhi was. You seen Tim all the time gathering the players and getting them to calm down, or pointing and yelling out assignments on the court. Tim would lead on court and sideline huddles and famously was the last person to leave the court after every game. He would wait for every teammate to finish chatting with their friends after games and then dap them up and leave together off the court. Tim just wasn’t a fan of talking to media types but he was always in the ear of his teammates
LMAO at Ka saying he shows up to practice every day when mother er doesn't even bother attending games he doesn't play.
The geezer is legit SALTY since nobody has stood him up like Uncle Dennis
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