How's Bertans a vet? He hasn't had a single season with an established role yet.
He had plenty of time to showcase his skills but had a shaky trigger past 2 years. He is slowly getting better but he is not on verge of a breakthrough. He had one good game but needs to have a certain pace and lineup for him to be effective. White on the other hand I feel is about to have his breakthrough like Forbes did.
I don’t know overall so I’ll pass on commenting on your general point, but don’t you get the feeling that Pop isn’t going to just cut minutes to Marco and other pets and that he simply found more minutes fir White in this game cutting minutes for Davis? Frankly I don’t know the answer. There’s guys that could certainly see less minutes but still get played.
That's classic Pop. Just look at Kyle Anderson or Dewayne Dedmon. Anderson has a solid midrange, but was only allowed to shoot open corner 3s. Dedmon made every bail out midrange jumper he shot that season and started hitting 3s at the same rate as Pau Gasol did once he left. You can already see the same with Derrick White. He's scared to mess up and is not allowed to shoot from midrange. Every time he has a midrange shot he passes the ball back out. This is Pop telling them they are not allowed to shoot, because it's not their role. I know it's idiotic, but I been used to seeing it
In the past with the big three and Kawhi etc Pop could get away with all this overly mental because they had the talent to still win regardless but now all those quick pulls and you ed up so you're in the doghouse stuff is kinda pointless since the team still doesn't seem to have an iden y and building chemistry is going to include all the mistakes and missteps in hopefully a natural progression, for now it's just part of the growing pains of whatever this group will become but with the margin for victory so slim I just don't see the point in messing with players minds, they shouldn't be feeling like if they make one mistake it's over or second and third guessing themselves every time they touch the ball.
Kyle Anderson average 7.9 ppg at 52% with the Spurs last season. Under a different coach and team, he's averaging 5.9% at 45%. Stats say, KA took more efficient shots with the Spurs.
Bertans is shooting .43 from 3 this season, 3.5 attempts per game. Actually not bad. He should chuck it more!
First, he needs the playing time to chuck more, tbh.
The stats on Kyle don’t tell the whole story. He injured an ankle in preseason missed some practices and preseason games started off the bench and now plays with a different group. He has been better as of late, but early in the season was just missing shots he normally made. His ankle and conditioning wasn’t right and his chemistry with teammates wasn’t there either. He’s playing pretty much the same as he did in the Spurs lately I would say.
Most players get stronger and bulk a bit after joining the league but Bertans still looks the same. I understand his body type is hard to put on weight but the guy is weak as . Him being so weak is what hurts him the most in this league. If he was a tad bit stronger in his upper body he would be a way better player.
I agree he has hardly added any muscle maybe they scarred it will impact his shooting or worry added weight could impact his knees. Still like him as a NBA player but think we could trade him to Boston for one if there 4 first round draft picks.
really is weird, even Ingram looks visibly stronger than when he got into the league
Has to do with age. Brandon Ingram is 21. For a lot of men that age is still within the last stage of the transition to maturity.
But Bertans is 26. As far as having his grownup bulk, he's there. He's a skinny guy.
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Now, I would like to see Pop showing even more confidence on him and have him finish games.
lol Bertans still seeing garbage minutes over Forbes. Only in Pop's World Bryn is more important than Davis.
didn't watch the game (bc why) but saw in the box score that Bert finally got the start, shifting DeMar to SG (so maybe the guards have a chance of not allowing the opposing backcourt drop 40-60 a game), and Bert can space the floor for mah touches. Good call, Pop. Also White didn't make a complete ass of his believers this game
A good call would have been making this move when he should have made it, and that was at the start of the season.
His love for midget SG is unparalleled. I think he can find a soft spot for Davis eventually. But one has to note Davis is 6'10", played 27 minutes and didn't record a single rebound or anything else than a block and a TO. He shot well though and as Pop said, you have to guard him.
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That’s why I want us to tank to get a two way SF who can create his own offense and play good defense. Also get
a SF/PF who can guard both positions and be a threat at both ends will be what I am looking for in our second pick.
This summer RC or Pop is going to have to be the Grinch and let someome
go. To many SG on the team ie, DEROZZ, White, Mills, Forbes, and Walker one of those has to be let go to add more length SF/PF.
Starting Bertans should help up the Spurs number of attempts. Depending on the number of minutes, he should be taking at least 5 per game.
A strong base is what gets you rebounds and allows you to hold your ground in the paint. Tim wasn't ripped up top, but he had super strong legs and a strong core. Bertans could be shaped like a bowling pin (or like a tube of toothpaste) for all I care, but the boy needs to mix in some squats....ok, lots of squats. Put him on the old power lifter workout...squats, deadlift and bench. A year of that and we'd see him get more boards and play a little stronger in the paint. I used to love playing against tall guys with no base to speak of. Easy pickin's inside that paint. So I'm sure NBA players salivate when they see that Bertans is waiting for them to back him down to the basket. At least if he could jump out of the gym he'd have that going for him to make up for some of that lack of bulk...but nope.
I thought about winslow and jj, but your contracts are long
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Imho Bertans simply can't play as a big man in this league except in some special situation (when opposing teams play small ball with a similar player). All things considered he has a body made in the Murray way...skinny but he can jump high. That's way I think he's a lot more efficient if he plays defense on the perimeter. In that case, aside the fact that he should bother a bit opposing offense with his lenght (he can face a bit smaller opponents 'cause he moves well his feet; his lenght can limit the court wiew and he can also play help blocking shots also if he has short arms) he should also be more effective rebounding (long rebounds).
Can we make this move once and for ing all?
This dude is one of the few guys on the league that has elite difference making shooting, alongside guys like Korver, Re , Thompson and Curry (these last two on a different stratosphere, of course). And, on top of that, he's one of the best offensive players on the roster AND one of the best defensive players on the roster too. He's a better defender than our suppossed defensive stopper.
There's just no reason at all to not have this guy starting and playing 30 minutes per game.
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What is it going to take for Popovich to finally ditch Cunninghan? Any moron can see Bertans is a huge upgrade.
Who is this team's defensive stopper? Cunningham?Can we make this move once and for ing all?
He's a better defender than our suppossed defensive stopper.
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