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    we need to get Tobias, by whatever means necessary. Including LMA or Demar for him + LouWill.

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    Imagine a closing lineup of DeRozan, SJ, Bertans, Gay, and Aldridge/Jakob.

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    Oubre went for an expiring, but a useful, valued player, who they clearly intend to re-sign.
    Washington won't be able to resign him unless they can unload OPJ, they are in cap he'll with the wall extension kicking in.

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    Imagine a closing lineup of DeRozan, SJ, Bertans, Gay, and Aldridge/Jakob.
    Imagine a line up of Murray, White, Walker, Johnson, Poeltl where the oldest player is 23

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    Think the Lakers would trade Kentavious Caldwell-Pope for Belinelli? They need shooters, right? Do you think KCP would agree to come here (he is on a one year bird and would have to agree to the trade)?

    Would feel weird trading with the Lakers but iv always liked KCP's game and i think both teams win the trade.

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    Think the Lakers would trade Kentavious Caldwell-Pope for Belinelli? They need shooters, right? Do you think KCP would agree to come here (he is on a one year bird and would have to agree to the trade)?

    Would feel weird trading with the Lakers but iv always liked KCP's game and i think both teams win the trade.
    doesn't work cap wise, we'd have to include another 6-7 million

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    Terrence Ross is drawing interest from multiple teams and the Magic are looking for a PG. Man how I wish Pop would get over himself and trade Mills for Ross expiring. Would work without a problem numbers wise and improve the team + salary cap situation

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    According to windhorst on the jump right now nets are going to be buyers not sellers for draft picks so don’t count on gasol and a pick for carroll

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    I'm gonna take a controversial stance and say we should trade for Danilo and try to get 2 assets alongside him in the process.

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    I'm gonna take a controversial stance and say we should trade for Danilo and try to get 2 assets alongside him in the process.
    Giving up what? and what 2 assets would we get back alongside him?

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    Cunningham and White gets Johnson.

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    Giving up what? and what 2 assets would we get back alongside him?
    Mills and Gasol for Danilo, Harrell, and Robinson.

    Actually, that's a terrible trade for both teams.

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    Cunningham and White gets Johnson.
    you don't trade White. Especially when you can sign Johnson in free agency. I'm not sure what Detroit is looking for tbh

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    Washington won't be able to resign him unless they can unload OPJ, they are in cap he'll with the wall extension kicking in.
    Maybe so, but I suspect acquiring him was step 1 of a 2 step process, which will include dumping Porter Jr. either by the deadline or in the offseason.

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    Lol that Eubanks bench reaction.

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    Hopefully Spurs get SJ before the Pelicans do.


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    Really think the obsession with Stan is out of control. Dude hasn't been a good player in the NBA. He's been mostly terrible offensively, and hasn't played D nearly good enough to make up for it. I could get wanting him if he got bought out, like with Corey Brewer back in the day. I could even see something like Beli and Pon for Bullock and Johnson. But giving up a first-rounder? Nah. At least give Ben Moore some games first to show he can't come in and do as much as Stan can. There will be good players available in the late-first. PATFO didn't get to make a trade for Johnson a couple of years ago, and they have Derrick White as a result. I'd rather them find a good player like maybe Wilkes and have four years and a solid developmental plan.

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    Now the team is working well and winning but until Gasol returns we won't know what will be the final rotation. Then we have to play some good teams in full strength and see what happens and then it will be clear what the roster exactly needs. I think all this will happen in the next weeks so PATFO will have in time the necessary info in order to work on potential trades.

    Forbes is making his shots but Marco, Davis too and White is showing he deserves to play starter minutes. Brynn biggest contribution is scoring, just the area of the game best covered in this team. To me, it makes sense to take advantage of his market value and trade him for a physical and defensive player. I'd add Toronto's pick as Spurs still have his own 1st round and, what it's more important to me, they already have a handful of young players to develop in the mid/long term, being 3 of these players guards as well.

    The Spurs could probably look for a physical forward, able to play good defense and important minutes at the SF-PF. This player would fill Cunningham's role, making him dispensable. So that could be a reasonable pack: Forbes, Cunningham and Toronto's pick. What can Bufford get for that?

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    I still think we can wait until after the season to move both picks and Forbes to get Sekou at the 10-12 position.

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    Really think the obsession with Stan is out of control. Dude hasn't been a good player in the NBA. He's been mostly terrible offensively, and hasn't played D nearly good enough to make up for it. I could get wanting him if he got bought out, like with Corey Brewer back in the day. I could even see something like Beli and Pon for Bullock and Johnson. But giving up a first-rounder? Nah. At least give Ben Moore some games first to show he can't come in and do as much as Stan can. There will be good players available in the late-first. PATFO didn't get to make a trade for Johnson a couple of years ago, and they have Derrick White as a result. I'd rather them find a good player like maybe Wilkes and have four years and a solid developmental plan.
    Desperation wears rose-colored glasses. Stanley is not worth a first-round pick.

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    I don't think it will take a 1st round pick to get SJ anyway.

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    wouldn't make sense since he's expiring. Forbes and a 2nd rounder maybe. But that would also mean that either Mills has to start or DeRozan moves back to SG. With Derrick White not being much of an offensive threat that could create problems. Especially when Johnson is also not a good shooter. I see them rather moving Gasol since he's been out and the team really doesn't need a 3rd big at this point.

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    I still think we can wait until after the season to move both picks and Forbes to get Sekou at the 10-12 position.
    nah

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    What about this trade suggested by BR, would you do it?

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...y-lin-jr-smith

    Detroit Pistons Receive: Wayne Ellington

    Miami Heat Receive: Bryn Forbes, Henry Ellenson

    San Antonio Spurs Receive: Stanley Johnson, 2019 second-round pick (via Detroit)

    Making mid-year trades is not the Spurs' style. The last deal they struck in-season was the legendary Nando de Colo-for-Austin Daye swap of...February 2014. They're overdue for a wintertime shakeup.

    Heck, the Western Conference's overcrowded playoff race essentially demands one. Fourteen million of 15 teams fancy themselves playoff hopefuls at the moment, and FiveThirtyEight gives the Spurs a sub-10 percent chance of cracking the postseason.

    Stanley Johnson doesn't solve everything, but he caught their eye last February, per The Athletic's Michael Scotto. He should be more gettable now. His restricted free agency is on the horizon, he still can't shoot, and Detroit has cut his minutes from last season. San Antonio can hope to reinvent his jumper, but his defensive portability alone plugs a gaping void.

    Fresh off his return from a left knee injury, Johnson dropped 20 points on a tidy 8-of-14 shooting in a Dec. 17 loss to the Milwaukee Bucks. The Pistons know better than to read into his performance. They rank 29th in three-point accuracy overall (32.5 percent) and 28th when firing off the catch (33.3 percent). Wayne Ellington is canning more than 37 percent of his triples and shooting slightly better on spot-up looks (37.5 percent)

    One Eastern Conference executive told The Athletic's Jordan Brenner that Detroit might "give Johnson away," so the structure of this deal should suffice. Ellington is an offensive boomstick who doesn't vault the Pistons into the luxury tax, and they don't need to view this as a partial-season investment. His Bird rights won't transfer if he approves a move—he has an implicit no-trade clause—but they don't need them. Non-Bird rights on a $6.3 million salary should be enough to retain him.

    Miami is without question fielding other offers for Ellington. The Lakers are among those who have a crush on him, according to Sporting News' Sean Deveney. His rumor mill should increase tenfold with Goran Dragic expected to miss the next two months following right knee surgery, per ESPN.com's Adrian Wojnarowski

    Most teams would take this as a sign to throw in the towel. The Heat aren't most teams. President Pat Riley turns 74 in March and will forever believe he can a pull a rabbit out of his hair-gel tub. (Though, if he's vibing a teardown, he should totally offer Ellington and Josh Richardson to the Philadelphia 76ers for Markelle Fultz and all the first-round picks, including Miami's own 2021 selection.)

    Bryn Forbes helps steady the ship in Dragic's absence and costs next to nothing next year. The Heat have other ball-handlers, but no one who thrives as a from-scratch creator. Even with a recent downtick, Forbes is posting a 50.4 effective field-goal percentage on pull-up jumpers—a top-10 mark among 67 players averaging at least four such shots per game.

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    Miami can easily do better for Ellington, also they're very unlikely to add any salary commitments on top of their own terrible cap situation.

    Would snap their hands off if I'm Spurs FO.

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