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    Why you don't trade Pau:

    1. You don't change a winning team with great locker room chemistry

    2. You would need to get a 3rd string Center who's good enough to play spot minutes in case somebody gets injured

    3. You need him to beat Houston (rebounds, rim protection, high-low on offense)


    Why you trade Pau:

    1. 16 million just sitting on the bench

    2. Spurs need a 3-and-D SF (or long SG) for the playoffs (in case Gay gets injured and most teams have 2 players you'd like to stop -> PG/Westbrook, Harden/CP3, Steph/KD, etc.)

    3. You don't have cap space to sign such a player next offseason. This way you can either aquire bird rights or get somebody on a longer deal <-- this is actually the main reason why I want a trade to happen


    Now that SF would have to be close to Bryn Forbes when it comes to shooting % and also have handles and enough speed to dribble drive, so the offense stays the same.

    There are some out there that fit that description, but I don't see Pau playing for Orlando or Atlanta, so it most likely will have to be a 3-team-deal. Now I don't think the Toronto pick is worth shipping out. A 2nd round pick max, but no first rounders.
    The other thing is moving Pau in the offseason, but I don't see any good players for his guaranteed 6.5 million out there that I would like to have on the team. Maybe RC finds a good option, but if we stand pat I'm fine with it, considering the roll that we are on. This is more about next season tbh

    Another route that's possible is taking on a bad deal for a SF that's good enough to get minutes while also getting another draft pick. 3 first rounders can then be flipped to either move into the lottery or to go after another starting/All-Star caliber player
    Solid post, but Gasol will do against the Rockets.

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    Why you don't trade Pau:

    1. You don't change a winning team with great locker room chemistry

    2. You would need to get a 3rd string Center who's good enough to play spot minutes in case somebody gets injured

    3. You need him to beat Houston (rebounds, rim protection, high-low on offense)


    Why you trade Pau:

    1. 16 million just sitting on the bench

    2. Spurs need a 3-and-D SF (or long SG) for the playoffs (in case Gay gets injured and most teams have 2 players you'd like to stop -> PG/Westbrook, Harden/CP3, Steph/KD, etc.)

    3. You don't have cap space to sign such a player next offseason. This way you can either aquire bird rights or get somebody on a longer deal <-- this is actually the main reason why I want a trade to happen


    Now that SF would have to be close to Bryn Forbes when it comes to shooting % and also have handles and enough speed to dribble drive, so the offense stays the same.

    There are some out there that fit that description, but I don't see Pau playing for Orlando or Atlanta, so it most likely will have to be a 3-team-deal. Now I don't think the Toronto pick is worth shipping out. A 2nd round pick max, but no first rounders.
    The other thing is moving Pau in the offseason, but I don't see any good players for his guaranteed 6.5 million out there that I would like to have on the team. Maybe RC finds a good option, but if we stand pat I'm fine with it, considering the roll that we are on. This is more about next season tbh

    Another route that's possible is taking on a bad deal for a SF that's good enough to get minutes while also getting another draft pick. 3 first rounders can then be flipped to either move into the lottery or to go after another starting/All-Star caliber player
    Yes, completely agree - especially #3. But For a player like Covington, I would be willing to use the Toronto 1st. The likelihood that we can draft a player as good who can help immediately AND over the long haul is not high.

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    Solid post, but Gasol will do against the Rockets.
    He was pretty useful against them in the playoffs 2 years ago.

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    Yes, completely agree - especially #3. But For a player like Covington, I would be willing to use the Toronto 1st. The likelihood that we can draft a player as good who can help immediately AND over the long haul is not high.
    I would even give up 2 picks for Covington but doubt that happens. Toronto pick and Spurs 2020 first rounder seems ok to me. He's making a case for DPOY, can shoot the 3 and is locked up on a good long term deal.

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    I would even give up 2 picks for Covington but doubt that happens. Toronto pick and Spurs 2020 first rounder seems ok to me. He's making a case for DPOY, can shoot the 3 and is locked up on a good long term deal.
    That seems a little high to me. A 1 and a 2? However, one consideration for moving the second 1st is the number of young players we currently have on the roster. Pop is already probably uncomfortable with the prospect of having to develop/choose among Dijon, DWhite, Bryn, and LWIV. In his heart of hearts, I suspect that Pop would much rather add a young veteran (especially on a great contract) over another couple of young guys he would have to develop.

    Yeah, I agree this discussion is purely academic. Pop will stand pat for this season except for possibly adding the traditional over-the-hill vet after the buyouts.

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    He was pretty useful against them in the playoffs 2 years ago.

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    Power Forward/Center/Small Forward SPURS are a SPURS need. If Rudy goes down, spurs are would be in trouble. Pau G, is what he is! a 38 yr old bench center w/ a high salary.. From a GM perspective why would any team want to take that salary on, and not get much in return for what your paying.. He is not a bad backup center option for the team, and I believe he is okay with it and knows his role now..

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    Snell on a vet min contract, or something much smaller that what he's got, would be good. He's way overpaid for what he brings. If people hate Patty and Pau's deal they'd really freak out with Snell's contract on the books.

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    You're a wordy mutha.

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    16m is expensive for a backup big just in case if 1 of the 2 bigs like lma, poetle goes down

    compared to the crap bigs on the roster like pondexter, cunningham...or whatever their names are...

    he come handy in the playoffs if he is ready, still has intangibles he can bring compared to the other 2 fodder bigs

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    Covington is on an incredible contract, signed thru 2022 and never making more than $13 mil/yr. He's 5th in RPM amongst SFs, 21st in the league overall. I don't get why people think Minnesota would be so eager to unload him for peanuts. He's giving production close to Siakam or Mike Conley, for the price of Patty Mills.
    That contract is pretty great tbh.
    man i was arguing with DPG about this during the offseason (leonard trade trades) quite a bit. i kept saying the covington contract is great and he kept saying it was an albatross and that getting convington and his contract would be a negative

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    FWIW, I don't have a problem with having Pau Gasol as a safety net in case LA or Jakob get injured. I just think that he would probably prefer going to a place where he gets playing time and knowing PATFO they will try to find a way to make him happy.
    I'd keep him around in case of injury.

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    man i was arguing with DPG about this during the offseason (leonard trade trades) quite a bit. i kept saying the covington contract is great and he kept saying it was an albatross and that getting convington and his contract would be a negative
    For Kawhi? It would have been. Covington is playing well now after a meh year

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    For Kawhi? It would have been. Covington is playing well now after a meh year
    as part of a package for kawhi, obviously.

    the point was you said (if i'm remembering right) that IF we were to trade with philly, you specifically preferred that covington NOT be part of the deal because he'd be a negative asset because his contract was a burden

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    as part of a package for kawhi, obviously.

    the point was you said (if i'm remembering right) that IF we were to trade with philly, you specifically preferred that covington NOT be part of the deal because he'd be a negative asset because his contract was a burden
    Yup. He was not playing well, SA had Danny/White and the package was Cov + Saric.

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    Yup. He was not playing well, SA had Danny/White and the package was Cov + Saric.
    and in the interest of fairness i was also making a big deal about fultz being a required piece , so i was wrong too

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    and in the interest of fairness i was also making a big deal about fultz being a required piece , so i was wrong too
    So was I. I wanted Fultz and until things somehow got worse lol I still thought it was a good gamble. But just for Saric + Cov? Nah.

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    So was I. I wanted Fultz and until things somehow got worse lol I still thought it was a good gamble. But just for Saric + Cov? Nah.
    i would never have gone for just saric/cov. but if the options were package with cov vs package w/o cov, we had opposite opinions

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    i would never have gone for just saric/cov. but if the options were package with cov vs package w/o cov, we had opposite opinions
    I can see me not liking that aspect with how Cov played last year while having Danny/White still. Cov playing so much better this year though.

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    Dude is just cashing checks. You think he'd mind not playing? He'd be pissed if Spurs traded his expiring contract to a losing team clearing salary. I hate it but Spurs culture most likely let him play out his contract - it's always been the Spurs way, sucks

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    's just sad, now. Someone needs to take Pau into the woods and put down. Pop better bench his ass once Rudy is back, though. Poetl is twice the player now, and could become thrice the player at the end of the season if Pop keeps giving him steady minutes.

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    I don't think anything will happen with Gasol. While I do think he holds a slightly inflated idea of his value on the court, he has had a front row view of how far the team has come and he has always acted in a professional manner. Coming off an injury and at his current age, ego aside, you'd think he has to know deep down that his role is going to be more in the locker room and hopefully between him and Aldridge being someone to help Poeltl further develop. He can still give a few minutes a night, he had a nice block against Drummond last night but I just doubt he is thinking to himself man I need to get out of SA, I'd be a game changer on such and such team. Let's see.

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    I didn’t see him in the game. It sounds like he is still working himself into game shape instead of losing his spot. I thought he had a stress fracture on his foot, that shouldn’t greatly effect his game going forward.

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    If Poeltl were to be injured, we'd need Pau to step in. Those are the only true centers on the roster (and even Pau used to play PF back in the day).

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    16 millions rotting on the bench in the form of a thrid string center, meanwhile one of Bertans or Gay go down and we are completely ed. But it's all cool, no moves need to be made.

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