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    It’s sad and funny people are actually falling for his troll post
    And then he gives a serious reply below. Anything can pass for "trolling" when it involves flawed reasoning.

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    The ignorance in the posts above is scary

    Money doesn't cure depression, there are plenty of rich people who commit suicide..the toughness instilled from where you grew up doesn't fix chemical imbalance, either

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    Ever since Pau got rotation minutes.... DeRozan play has sucked (is it 3 straight games)?

    Pau ruined a certain team chemistry, but honestly DeRozan's individual play has sucked.
    ceperez: +10
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    But, there's HELP if he wants it. Only an idiot would feel sorry for someone who would rather be moody and depressed to gain people's sympathy rather than getting the professional help he needs. From a basketball standpoint though, he was never as good as his numbers indicated and his career postseason numbers are atrocious. Maybe uneducated spurs fans just didn't realize what they were getting until they got it.

    Toronto fans were beyond estatic to see DeRozen traded even if it meant just one year of Kawhi and Danny Green.
    My point is how do you know he hasn't seemed help? Many people go seek help but that's not an instant cure for their depression. I'm not defending his basketball play but when y'all start talking about dumb that involves the real world that is where the problem occurs.

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    At least he's around.
    Truth nuke. Even LACrybaby played. But not Kawhitter.....

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    too bad the spurs didn’t go after getting luka in draft instead of acquiring demar.

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    Last year the Spurs had 1 player with 3 technical fouls (LMA) the rest had 1 or none for the entire season. DDR already has 5 technical fouls and the season is only half way done...

    He needs to get a grip and learn to not rely on the refs for calls. They aren't always going to call things your way but when you get all mad and cuss at the ref, it only makes things worse for the team. Play smarter, not wreck less and angry!

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    My point is how do you know he hasn't seemed help? Many people go seek help but that's not an instant cure for their depression. I'm not defending his basketball play but when y'all start talking about dumb that involves the real world that is where the problem occurs.
    But how do you know people aren't using depression as a scapegoat for his play? The two don't always intertwine but it sure does give him an excuse when he plays poorly. And when he has a good game, that means he took his meds that day, right? Basketball is the real world and he has one of the worst contracts in professional sports

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    too bad the spurs didn’t go after getting luka in draft instead of acquiring demar.
    The only reason the Spurs got Demar was because Toronto was xesperately looking to salary dump him. The Spurs weren't getting the #3 pick in the draft for one year of Kawhi.

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    Ever since Pau got rotation minutes.... DeRozan play has sucked (is it 3 straight games)?

    Pau ruined a certain team chemistry, but honestly DeRozan's individual play has sucked.
    This is half the truth and i'll try to explain what i mean.
    Ruining the team chemistry implies people don't want to play with you,they have a problem every time you step on the court.
    This is not the case.Pau's return and even more importantly Gay's absence caused the game plan to malfunction.It's not a chemistry issue.It's as simple as the starting line up roles not functioning.

    This year's Spurs are a unique team,an experiment if you'd like.
    You have a starting line up with heavy iso players.DDR,iso drive,carve,get to the FT line,LMA iso post,left fade jumper,right side post drive,Rudy,iso post,fade jumper,drive,pull up 3.Forbes is the role player 3P shooter,White is the jack of all trades pleasant surprise at PG.The league tries to play Moreyball,Spurs do it their way.

    During our amazing 15 game stretch when we were the best team in the league,we were healthy,and DDR,LMA and Gay were clicking,taking turns punishing opposing defenses.White is maturing into a great player in front of our eyes,Forbes was making his 3s.
    So what changed? Gay is injured (probably rushed back for the Raps but that's another story).

    DeRozan needs Gay out there.He needs Gay's length and covering space on defense.He needs the attention Gay commands from opposing teams on offense.He needs Gay mentally cause he is his best friend on the team!
    Gay helps DDR save energy in defense.Gay helps DeRozan not get swarmed by 3 defenders on offense.Gay helps Demar not feel helpless when 2-3 shots go clank.

    Pau unfortunately cannot help the system of our starting line up.That is causing our offensive rhythm to suffer.A suffering offense has Demar running circles in his mind trying to figure what is he doing wrong.Demar plays bad,Demar feels bad about playing bad,before you know it,Demar is depressed.

    I'm not saying You take Pau out right now and we go 20-5 or anything.But i am saying that Spurs have many weaknesses as a team,so we need every single cog in the wheel to be well oiled and functional to cause trouble to other teams (playoff teams).
    The whole slump is an endless loop.DeRozan is bad cause Spurs are playing bad.The Spurs are playing bad cause DeRozan is underperforming.
    It's a both mental and tactical issue.
    (And sorry for the long post)

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    Probably a fair bit to do with fatigue. Carried the team while LMA was playing terrible in November & played well in December.

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    It's an 82 game season...guys are going to go in and out of slumps...it happens to the best of them...he'll be fine

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    This is literally the DeRozan every year of his career. He was getting shat on here for this very reason for his career in Toronto.

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    This is half the truth and i'll try to explain what i mean.
    Ruining the team chemistry implies people don't want to play with you,they have a problem every time you step on the court.
    This is not the case.Pau's return and even more importantly Gay's absence caused the game plan to malfunction.It's not a chemistry issue.It's as simple as the starting line up roles not functioning.

    This year's Spurs are a unique team,an experiment if you'd like.
    You have a starting line up with heavy iso players.DDR,iso drive,carve,get to the FT line,LMA iso post,left fade jumper,right side post drive,Rudy,iso post,fade jumper,drive,pull up 3.Forbes is the role player 3P shooter,White is the jack of all trades pleasant surprise at PG.The league tries to play Moreyball,Spurs do it their way.

    During our amazing 15 game stretch when we were the best team in the league,we were healthy,and DDR,LMA and Gay were clicking,taking turns punishing opposing defenses.White is maturing into a great player in front of our eyes,Forbes was making his 3s.
    So what changed? Gay is injured (probably rushed back for the Raps but that's another story).

    DeRozan needs Gay out there.He needs Gay's length and covering space on defense.He needs the attention Gay commands from opposing teams on offense.He needs Gay mentally cause he is his best friend on the team!
    Gay helps DDR save energy in defense.Gay helps DeRozan not get swarmed by 3 defenders on offense.Gay helps Demar not feel helpless when 2-3 shots go clank.

    Pau unfortunately cannot help the system of our starting line up.That is causing our offensive rhythm to suffer.A suffering offense has Demar running circles in his mind trying to figure what is he doing wrong.Demar plays bad,Demar feels bad about playing bad,before you know it,Demar is depressed.

    I'm not saying You take Pau out right now and we go 20-5 or anything.But i am saying that Spurs have many weaknesses as a team,so we need every single cog in the wheel to be well oiled and functional to cause trouble to other teams (playoff teams).
    The whole slump is an endless loop.DeRozan is bad cause Spurs are playing bad.The Spurs are playing bad cause DeRozan is underperforming.
    It's a both mental and tactical issue.
    (And sorry for the long post)


    DD is playing like ass since he blew his load in the Raps game but I think he'll shake it off here soon. I agree he may be a little fatigued from the earlier season where he was playing 40 minutes every night and carrying the entire team. If he still sucks like this in a month it's time to panic tbh. And the depression thing is dumb and overplayed imo

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    This thread is very insensitive and irresponsible..

    DeRozan has a long history of mental health issues, which is far more important than the game of basketball..Spurs fans should be supporting him and trying to understand what he's going through, rather than turning their backs on him..
    Yes, but he’s no different than any other highly compensated employee. He must get treatment, if that’s the problem, but if it’s just a slump, he needs to get past it and do what he’s been hired to do. Perform or the organization must trade him.

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    Why are people surprised by this? He’s always been mentally weak. Always chokes in the playoffs and had to be benched in game 3 against the cavs because he couldn’t make shots or play defense

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    DeRozan was really good early in the season. He had a few bad last games and suddenly he's a scrub? As fanbase we should be a bit more supportive...

    Not a negative DD thread lol. What happened to him being way better than “nephew”?
    Until last week you could read posts like "Spurs WON the trade". Funny, right?

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    I guess it makes sense why the Raptors were willing to trade him for half a season of PG and taking the risk on Kawhi. My concern is his lack of 3pt shooting and how he'll mesh with Murray. You can't have both of your starting guards be poor 3pt shooters. So a move might need to be made in the off-season.

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    Where is the mirronick aka number 1 derozan homer her in st?

    defend your guy men

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    ceperez is right. Pau has screwed the team chemistry. With Rudy and LMA playing together DeMar was playing great. Now that the Pau lover, Pop, has inserted the $16 million dollar man into the SL we can't beat The Little Sisters of Charity. Hopefully Rudy will be back soon and we can get the chemistry back. Gasol should be the 10th or 11th man off the bench. He is just hanging on collecting money from the Spurs. As for DeMar, he seems kind of disinterested but, I doubt that is it. I really do think Pau is the problem. He doesn't contribute anything in the first place. Jacob Poeltl and Davis Bertans should be the first big men off the bench. JMHO

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    Surprised how slow he is.

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    Derozan's stamina is not what it needs to be, add the mental issues and we're screwed.

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    DeRozan was really good early in the season. He had a few bad last games and suddenly he's a scrub? As fanbase we should be a bit more supportive...


    Until last week you could read posts like "Spurs WON the trade". Funny, right?
    When Kawhi leaves Tor we'll know how the trade went

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    DeRozan sucks ing balls.. Pop should have been fired for that ing trade. I called it from day one. Fo

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    As someone who struggles with mental illness the way I see it is that "it is not my fault I suffer from mental illness, but it is my responsibility as an adult to deal with it." That said, therapy and medications often take time to work and it really is a lifetime condition.

    That said, having Gay missing is really causing issues. In terms of re-integrating Gasol I think it is necessary and maybe they should go with Bertans-LMA starting and Gasol-Poeltl coming off the bench. I think you really want to avoid playing LMA more than 32 minutes a game.

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