Any way the Spurs get in on the Anthony Davis conversation!?!

[DAF86]

I can't believe anyone would debate this.

Apart from the statistical analysis, in the real world, does anyone doubt that each and every NBA GM would consider it a no-brainer to trade Kawhi for AD?

What statistical analysis? The one that favours Kawhi over AD?

Also, in the real World, Kawhi is a better player and a much more accomplished one.

[KGB POP]

Why do white fans hate seeing Black players in power? Nothing angers them more

Davis stayed with the Pelicans for 7 seasons, he gave them plenty of time to make moves to convince him to stay..he's supposed to allow Dell Demps to dictate his legacy?

You want him to stay with a garbage team run by a horrible front office his entire career, but you'll still call him a loser when he retires without a ring..

Long-time lurker here from the Spurs Fan, T-Park days. Davis is under contract-that has to mean something. Davis is free to sign wherever he wants when his contract expires. Or at the very least, he shouldn't tank his trade value by saying he only wants to play for the Lakers, who are currently a garbage franchise that have done nothing to deserve obtaining Davis. They don't have assets worth . But the I guess the Lakers are too big to fail, huh?

And, yes, I believe there are a lot of white bigots who can't stand what Lebron and player empowerment represent. I personally think player empowerment is great. But it's shallow to assume that is the SOLE reason some fans are upset is because of racism.

Oh, and if players set the precedent of ignoring contracts, what's to stop ownership from doing the same eventually?

[NameLess Scrub]

Yeah, because that worked for both PG13 and KL2.

Well George was a FA that got paid, and Kawhi demanded LA to the Spurs.

Now that AD supposedly demanded Lakers, I want to see if they can get him.

[kaji157]

It's been now three consecutive years of Star players demanding or asking in the media for trades to the Lakers and not a sign from the league.
The other owners might be all chickens

[duncan2k5]

Then how is LA going to get AD if they don’t have the youth that is better than SA nor the mid-tier star like DDR/LMA to offer?

having lebron with one other decent young player would be better than just AD and out young players... And he will be in LA... AD will never come here... Let's stop the nonsense please

[duncan2k5]

Well by your logic, LMA sucks and what has AD done to warrant your approval?

AD is immensely better than LMA... the only people that would ever say LMA is better than AD is ppl on spurstalk.com

[duncan2k5]

If you are local, and watch the games, the studio guy, Dan, pointed out that there is a historic career dip in January for Demar, and it's his worst month by far. The good news is that Feb/Mar/Apr are all good to outstanding for him.

I wouldn't worry about this slump. I just think he's gassed. Pop leaned into him really hard to carry the team for the 1st half of the season, and it's taking it's toll.

If u think his slump ends in just January, you haven't been watching the guy

[duncan2k5]

Derrick IS better than Ingram. Kuzma is likely better than Bryn.

LMFAO

[duncan2k5]

I would 100% say the group of Murray, White, Lonnie & Bertans is better than Lonzo, Ingram & Kuz.

LMFAO! Murray is better than Ball, but Kuz and Ingram are better than white and Lonnie, and it isn't even close... Lonnie can't even get in an NBA game, my guy... And both Kuz and Ingram are younger than white, have a higher ceiling, and are putting up better numbers... White will never be a star, whereas Kuz and Ingram are expected to be eventually

[duncan2k5]

I remember when spurs fans used to laugh at the notion that AD was better than Kawhi... Lol

[duncan2k5]

We will because of common sense. No one as good as him is only capable of 1 playoff series win and 2 playoff appearances in 6 seasons because of some inherent flaw with them.

I haven't been around in a few weeks; even greatness gets rusty. I forgot that the vast majority either doesn't know better, doesn't factor that in or both.

He was never better than James for the simple fact that the latter possesses the most important skill in the game and the one he doesn't: the ability to make his teammates better.

Which teammates have lebron made better?

[duncan2k5]

If out FO wanted to trade Kawhi for AD back in 2017,spurs fans ALL would have throw a FIT... Any GM would take Kawhi over AD if their intention is to win playoff games...Kawhi is a baller, and he can singlehandedly lift a team in the playoffs, whereas AD doesn't... AD is great... He just doesn't have the IT factor... Kawhi gets dirty... I've seen the guy sky over everyone when the team absolutely NEEDS a rebound... I don't see AD doing whatever it takes to win... And clearly that has manifested itself in his career... Kawhi can go to ANY team in the NBA right now, and they'd be a lock for the playoffs

[YGWHI]

For those saying owners/teams need more power...

-Kawhi family wanted him in LA home and he was traded to Siberia

-Paul George wanted to play for Lakers and he ended in Tornado City

-Buttler was traded to depressed Minny

-IT played injured for C's, he gave them all but he was traded

-DeRozan didn't want a trade but he's in San Antonio now

-Blake signed to play in LA but he's in the cold Detroit, lost in the middle of nowhere


For a "players power league"...it seems like players have zero leverage

[YGWHI]

I wouldn't bite on AD>>>Kawhi or Kawhi>>>>AD

This Davis' trade won't answer questions about these two players' individual value...It will show the importance of having a real agent.

Rich Paul can be a jerk but he's a pro agent with the right NBA teams' connections

[dbreiden83080]

7 seasons in the league and he has made the playoffs twice.. Something is way off with this guy. I don't care about his stats..

[UZER]

The Spurs can’t even get Bertans in the 3pt contest. You think the NBA will let AD come here.

[TheGreatYacht]

Can't believe I'm watching duncan2k5 bodying dudes

Spurs homers taking White and scrubs over Kuzma and Ingram rofl....

[John B]

I see AD going to Raptors and staying there with Kawhi, anything to spoil LeBron/Magic tampering. But if Pels agree, Demar, Murray and Raps pick should work Murray >>> Lonzo Ball without the baggage plus they get a proven scorer on Demar.

[exstatic]

Well George was a FA that got paid, and Kawhi demanded LA to the Spurs.

Now that AD supposedly demanded Lakers, I want to see if they can get him.

George wanted LA also. Said he wouldn't re-sign with anyone but the Lakers.

If you can put the player into a good team situation, winning and such, greed will take over, and they will likely stay. Most in this situation have already left the supermax on the table, and would be loathe to leave another $40M behind to go play for Magic's dysfunctional Mystery Tour.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kevin Love with a unibrow isn't staying in Toronto, unfortunately. His agent is Lebron's best friend, and he's all but told teams he's only re-signing with LA. Folks also found some tweets of the statpadder bad mouthing Toronto, even complained that they didn't even have ESPN on TV...

[ElNono]

I rather keep MVPau, tbh, bigs are useless in this league, and he’s overrated on top of that. Rather have the savvy veteran that has been through the battles before. Hopefully the Spurs can retain him on a reasonable 3 year deal.

[Maddog]

7 seasons in the league and he has made the playoffs twice.. Something is way off with this guy. I don't care about his stats..

There may be something there..
That said, he's had pretty bad surrounding talent and far from great coaching.

It's next to impossible for the Spurs to get him unless NO does us a good one with a third team involved.
I can see a few unlikely scenarios involving Boston but as said highly unlikely.

This will be interesting. Especially long term for the NOP. It's the NBA's second smallest metro area and second smallest TV market.
Currently 25th in attendance per game. it once again brings up the difficulty of small market teams being compe ive for a le. Since the ABA/NBA merger only 4 teams outside the top 10 metro areas have won a le (Port, Sea, SA and Clev) with 3 being outside the top 20. Portland has manged to remain compe ive throughout- in part due to a billionaire owner and rabid fan base.

[YGWHI]

7 seasons in the league and he has made the playoffs twice.. Something is way off with this guy. I don't care about his stats..

Well it seems like other stars on less-talent rosters did much than AD in his career

"I have a question.

We all acknowledge Anthony Davis is better than Dame, right? More valuable, etc.

Go look at Dame’s roster since LMA left. REALLY go look at it.

How has he made the playoffs every year and Davis has… done what he has?"

https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/sta...24527832129536

[TheGreatYacht]

Kawhi isn't 5 games under .500 with Holiday, Randle, Mirotic, Moore, and Okafor. Period. Even players like Lillard and Aldridge (in two different teams) have done more with far less.

Folks will see Davis is a loser when he plays next to Teflon Lebron. It's coming.

[pad300]

Can't believe I'm watching duncan2k5 bodying dudes

Spurs homers taking White and scrubs over Kuzma and Ingram rofl....

Both you and duncan2k5 showing your not paying attention... The OP had Bertans, White, Murray, Lonnie in that comparison. Check the stats, do an eye-test (and get some glasses both of you), and well

Bertans > Kuzma
White > Ingram
Murray >= Ball (don't forget to factor in Lavar...)

Looks like a sweep to the Spurs for me.