NBA Trade Deadline 2019

[Chinook]

I think folks are overrating Kristaps. He's a good player, but with his injury history and his apparent desire to play the free-agent market as quickly as possible, his value wasn't that high. Dallas paid a lot for him, and it's a huge gamble. New York made some mistakes, but they got out of them well. Even if they just plan on tanking for the next few years, this was a good trade. This could be a precursor to going after max free agents (like that McGrady deal in 2010 was), but it could also be like that Jrue Holiday trade Philly did. There really wasn't any more value the Knicks could have gotten out of the Mavs, and that's why the trade went down so fast. Eff the New York media.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I think folks are overrating Kristaps. He's a good player, but with his injury history and his apparent desire to play the free-agent market as quickly as possible, his value wasn't that high. Dallas paid a lot for him, and it's a huge gamble. New York made some mistakes, but they got out of them well. Even if they just plan on tanking for the next few years, this was a good trade. This could be a precursor to going after max free agents (like that McGrady deal in 2010 was), but it could also be like that Jrue Holiday trade Philly did. There really wasn't any more value the Knicks could have gotten out of the Mavs, and that's why the trade went down so fast. Eff the New York media.

I agree, everyone is hating the trade for the Knicks but I really don't think it's that bad at all, especially if they were sure Porzingis would leave in a year. Huge gamble for Dallas calling his bluff on signing the QO with them too. It'd be very brave of him and frankly, very unwise to say the least. But if he really does then these 2021 and 2023 picks could be golden with or without Doncic. Dallas have never been able to attract anyone really good in FA.

Also is there a better package for Davis than NY's 2019 pick and Dallas's 2021 and 2023 + expirings? NY can now wait until the summer and to know exactly where their pick lands before making an offer for Davis, whereas with Porzingis on the books they were forced to act now.

It's all risky AF but I like the deal for both Dallas and NY.

[Duncan87]

Bamba would immediately be sent to the Gleague. Dude sucks still

[Andreas68]

Bamba would immediately be sent to the Gleague. Dude sucks still

You wrote what i think,Thanks!

[MoSpur02]

"Windhorst: "when they iced Dennis Smith a few weeks ago... one of the teams they were talking to was Orlando about Mo Bamba... Mo Bamba is available on the market""
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...Fid%3D25895122
20 min mark.

Wow. Teams give up way too fast on their prospects. Didn't he only play one year at UT? I think someone like Bamba would develop into a very good player under the Spurs player development. I wouldn't trade for him mid-season though. He wouldn't get significant playing time and wouldn't help our issues this season. I would look into trading for him this off season though if he truly is being made available by the Magic.

[vavvi]

I think folks are overrating Kristaps. He's a good player, but with his injury history and his apparent desire to play the free-agent market as quickly as possible, his value wasn't that high. Dallas paid a lot for him, and it's a huge gamble. New York made some mistakes, but they got out of them well. Even if they just plan on tanking for the next few years, this was a good trade. This could be a precursor to going after max free agents (like that McGrady deal in 2010 was), but it could also be like that Jrue Holiday trade Philly did. There really wasn't any more value the Knicks could have gotten out of the Mavs, and that's why the trade went down so fast. Eff the New York media.

I'm not buying "a lot" argument. They basically gave up 2021 1st and that's it.
I think close to 100% GMs would flip 2021 1st for KP.

[cd021]

I'm not buying "a lot" argument. They basically gave up 2021 1st and that's it.
I think close to 100% GMs would flip 2021 1st for KP.

They gave up two firsts and there isn't a gaurantee that he will re-sign there after next season.

They are already going to be giving up a lottery pick to the Hawks so of Porzingus leaves then will be in a much worse situation than they otherwise would've been in.

Knicks seem convinced that they can get KD and maybe Kyrie (after clearing out two Max slots) plus will have additional assets (they own all of their firsts plus the be two from Dallas) for a player that clearly didn't want to be there.

I don't think the Knicks necessarily made a bad deal.

[ceperez]

I agree, everyone is hating the trade for the Knicks but I really don't think it's that bad at all, especially if they were sure Porzingis would leave in a year. Huge gamble for Dallas calling his bluff on signing the QO with them too. It'd be very brave of him and frankly, very unwise to say the least. But if he really does then these 2021 and 2023 picks could be golden with or without Doncic. Dallas have never been able to attract anyone really good in FA.

Also is there a better package for Davis than NY's 2019 pick and Dallas's 2021 and 2023 + expirings? NY can now wait until the summer and to know exactly where their pick lands before making an offer for Davis, whereas with Porzingis on the books they were forced to act now.

It's all risky AF but I like the deal for both Dallas and NY.

Yeah, I think both teams got what they wanted. Dallas took a risk to sign a future all-star that'll play well with Doncic. NY got a lot of cap room cleared and got a good young player in Dennis Smith.

Both teams took risks, but you can't get ahead in this league without taking risks.

Spurs got ahead in 2011 by trading George Hill for a #15 pick.

[vavvi]

They gave up two firsts and there isn't a gaurantee that he will re-sign there after next season.

They are already going to be giving up a lottery pick to the Hawks so of Porzingus leaves then will be in a much worse situation than they otherwise would've been in.

Knicks seem convinced that they can get KD and maybe Kyrie (after clearing out two Max slots) plus will have additional assets (they own all of their firsts plus the be two from Dallas) for a player that clearly didn't want to be there.

I don't think the Knicks necessarily made a bad deal.

The 2023 1st is top10 protected, and if Mavs are bad it will eventually turn into a 2nd. So for me it's basically only one 1st and relief of cancerous DSJ.
I'm not saying it's a very bad trade for the Knicks (which it probably is just because everything the Knicks do is usually terrible) but in my opinion it's a no-brainer for Dallas even if KP is more hurt than we think

[vavvi]

Yeah, I think both teams got what they wanted. Dallas took a risk to sign a future all-star that'll play well with Doncic. NY got a lot of cap room cleared and got a good young player in Dennis Smith.

Both teams took risks, but you can't get ahead in this league without taking risks.

Spurs got ahead in 2011 by trading George Hill for a #15 pick.

How can you compare trading George Hill and trading the most talented player their franchise had in a decade?
Trading George Hill wasn't really that risky ))) it was just George Hill

[exstatic]

Some insight - since the current basic NBA salary structures have been in place (over 20yrs) not one player has turned down a max rookie extension and signed the QO instead. KP would be the first if he did it. Seems extremely unlikely to me esp given his injury history.

Michael Olowokandi signed his year 5 QO.

[BatManu20]

I think folks are overrating Kristaps. He's a good player, but with his injury history and his apparent desire to play the free-agent market as quickly as possible, his value wasn't that high. Dallas paid a lot for him, and it's a huge gamble. New York made some mistakes, but they got out of them well. Even if they just plan on tanking for the next few years, this was a good trade. This could be a precursor to going after max free agents (like that McGrady deal in 2010 was), but it could also be like that Jrue Holiday trade Philly did. There really wasn't any more value the Knicks could have gotten out of the Mavs, and that's why the trade went down so fast. Eff the New York media.

I basically posted this exact same thing a few pages back. Glad we didn’t trade our young assets for him tbh.

[BatManu20]

He gone.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

^Ouch.

[HarlemHeat37]

Doesn't mean anything, Irving is the biggest attention seeker in the East, only LeBron might be worse in that regard, overall..he says something different every week..

The rest of the Celtics would be elated if he leaves, though

[BatManu20]

Memphis had better be getting some solid draft picks in any hypothetical trade, otherwise.... why..

[HarlemHeat37]

Memphis had better be getting some solid draft picks in any hypothetical trade, otherwise.... why..

That would be a great trade for Memphis, tbh .

[gambit1990]

i hate kyrie. i hope he didn’t join lebron. i hope kyrie and durant sign and lose together somewhere.

[exstatic]

That would be a great trade for Memphis, tbh .

Right? It's almost worth salary dumping Conley at this point. He makes north of $30M, and plays 55-60 games per year. That they're getting Rubio is icing on the cake.

[look_at_g_shred]

He gone.

It's the way of the NBA these days He sees his peers switching teams left and right and so he wants to be part of that.

[BatManu20]

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If Kyrie leaves Boston they likely refuse to trade for Davis, as he'd bolt in a year.

NY should go all in, trade DSJ for another pick, package them all and send them to NOLA for Davis now.

[tbdog]

Michael Olowokandi signed his year 5 QO.

Was never going to be offered the max.

[exstatic]

It's the way of the NBA these days He sees his peers switching teams left and right and so he wants to be part of that.

I think he sees the young Celtics getting fat heads and not caring after a decent playoff run last year.

[Drom John]

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