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    Memphis has flubbed numerous first round over the past dozen seasons that could've changed their prospect's (the Thabeet picks) as well as shipping away their 2011, 2013 and 2017 picks with not really anything to show for it other than a brief stint of Shane Battier. That doesn't even include the disastrous trade with the Celtics that will cost them a high lottery pick sooner or later.

    I am not saying that not having a pick is a nightmare bit sounds like you're saying that the Spurs should just give these picks away this year but don't have a specific trade in mind.

    Moving the Raptors pick may be useful but it is probably better to keep the 21st and 28th picks and try to package them for like the 14 pick and potientially grabbing a wing that could help us for a decade.
    I don't think that 21 +28 moves you up to 14...

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    Things that would be nice but won't happen:

    https://basketball.realgm.com/tradec..._trade/7174444

    SAS out : Pau, Cunningham, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
    SAS in : Mirotic, Hood

    CLE in : Pau, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
    CLE out : Hood, Burks, SRP CLE 2020

    NOP in : Burks, SRP CLE 2020
    NOP out : Mirotic

    Not sure the balance is right on the picks, but SAS turns Gasol/Cunningham (or Pondexter) into more viable rotation players (not to mention avoiding the $6.3 M owed to Gasol next summer) in return for a first and a second. NOP turns Mirotic into a future asset, CLE tanks harder for Zion and gets a FRP and a SRP as a profit ...
    I'd want nothing to do with giving up two picks for guys who don't fit a need. Bertans already doesn't play enough as it is. Hood's been okay, but the Cavs are getting way too much for him and Burks in this deal, and SA is paying that whole price for some reason.

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    Things that would be nice but won't happen:

    https://basketball.realgm.com/tradec..._trade/7174444

    SAS out : Pau, Cunningham, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
    SAS in : Mirotic, Hood

    CLE in : Pau, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
    CLE out : Hood, Burks, SRP CLE 2020

    NOP in : Burks, SRP CLE 2020
    NOP out : Mirotic

    Not sure the balance is right on the picks, but SAS turns Gasol/Cunningham (or Pondexter) into more viable rotation players (not to mention avoiding the $6.3 M owed to Gasol next summer) in return for a first and a second. NOP turns Mirotic into a future asset, CLE tanks harder for Zion and gets a FRP and a SRP as a profit ...
    Horrible trade for the Spurs.

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    I'd want nothing to do with giving up two picks for guys who don't fit a need. Bertans already doesn't play enough as it is. Hood's been okay, but the Cavs are getting way too much for him and Burks in this deal, and SA is paying that whole price for some reason.
    You think either CLE or NOP would do it with less going to them? SAS, IMO is getting the cream of the players involved, and saving money (and future space). Would CLE do it just for the TOR pick?

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    You think either CLE or NOP would do it with less going to them? SAS, IMO is getting the cream of the players involved, and saving money (and future space). Would CLE do it just for the TOR pick?
    I'd rather eat Gasol's money than pay a first to get rid of it. Getting out of his contract at this point isn't really incentive for me to do anything. I have no idea if Cleveland would do it for less. Maybe they'd trade Hood for a second if the Spurs just sent Cun out. As I said, Mirotic doesn't interest me at all.

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    I agree with chinook here, plus you could have something this summer with that gasol contract. Maybe move up in the draft if We take a bad contract from another team.

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    I agree with chinook here, plus you could have something this summer with that gasol contract. Maybe move up in the draft if We take a bad contract from another team.
    So I’ve seen this a few times now and wanted to correct a common misconception regarding Pau’s deal. If he’s not traded at this deadline his contract loses all value.

    In order for a team to take advantage of sending out equal money then waiving Pau it has to be this deadline. After that, in a trade Paus outgoing salary would be only 6.7M.

    So it has to be this deadline. I’m with Chinook too. Spurs getting rid of 6.7M is not really worth much considering they likely wouldn’t be FA players even with all of Paus money gone. If they want to be FA players it would take moving Mills and Pau.

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    Regarding Gordon: he would absolutely be a Rudy replacement. Spurs, if trading for Gordon would basically be saying we feel paying Gordon that money is better than an aging Rudy. Rudy seems on course to cash in a 2-3 year deal for maybe 30-45M.

    SA may not want to pay him that but could want to pay Gordon.

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    I do think the Spurs need more physicality on the wing in the playoffs. Maybe Damyean Dotson, who I believe the Spurs were interested in him earlier in the year. I definitely think he has untapped potential that the Spurs would unlock and it shouldn’t require a 1st rd pick.

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    Regarding Gordon: he would absolutely be a Rudy replacement. Spurs, if trading for Gordon would basically be saying we feel paying Gordon that money is better than an aging Rudy. Rudy seems on course to cash in a 2-3 year deal for maybe 30-45M.

    SA may not want to pay him that but could want to pay Gordon.
    I'm also in the camp that says Gordon is absolutely a 4 and would take Gay's spot. I think it makes sense to send Gay out in the deal someway. If I could use Gay and Pau somehow to do a 3 team deal that resulted in Gordon and a SF I think that would be the best we can do right now. Maybe that SF is Hood as people are talking about here or maybe it's someone else but that's what I would try and construct right now.

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    well..


    Portland has agreed to a deal to acquire Cleveland forward Rodney Hood for guards Nik Stauskas, Wade Baldwin and two future second-round picks, league sources tell ESPN.

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    We are not trading Gasol. No one wants him. He will be released with his partially guaranteed contract this summer.

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    Portland being interested in hood or Dallas in kp was not reported at all til a trade happened. Some team under the radar is prolly closin in on AD as we speak

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    I just don't think Gordon is the answer. He makes triple the salary of Bertans and I doubt he even moves the goalposts for the Spurs as a team.
    I'd hold out for a better fit, an actual SF, rather than paying Gordon.

    Honestly, at this point I think many of the issues the Spurs have are solved by giving White and Bertans a combined extra 10-12 minutes per game, and taking away those same minutes from Forbes, DeRozan, and Gasol.

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    Oh well. There goes another SF.

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    This trade helps me greatly in 2k since I use the Blazers and barely get any output from Stauskas.

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    This trade helps me greatly in 2k since I use the Blazers and barely get any output from Stauskas.
    It wouldn't help you against me on ps4... I'd stomp you in the ground.

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    "The Cavaliers are continuing to add draft assets, and are still pursuing trades for guard Alec Burks and JR Smith prior to Thursday's trade deadline. With in-season trades for Hood, Kyle Korver, George Hill and Sam Dekker, Cleveland has acquired seven draft picks - including a first-rounder and six second-round choices."


    Cleveland praying they get lucky with a Jokic/Ginobili/Draymond type of pick.

    I wonder how many of those 2nd rounders they would trade for one first rounder?




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    It wouldn't help you against me on ps4... I'd stomp you in the ground.

    Drop the PSN name and as soon as the update hits you can gladly get destroyed.

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    Welp the blazers got better, now I’m sure OKC, Utah, Denver will probably all make a move to improve their team while the spurs do nothing lol

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    Welp the blazers got better, now I’m sure OKC, Utah, Denver will probably all make a move to improve their team while the spurs do nothing lol
    Jazz might get Conley.

    OKC may need a shooter... Mirotic?

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    I agree Spurs don’t need the Hood. If they did want him they wouldn’t give up what was needed to get him. Spurs never do trades because they overvalue what they have. Remember when they wanted a first round pick back for Dejuan Blair.

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    Jazz might get Conley.

    OKC may need a shooter... Mirotic?
    OKC probably going to get Wes Matthews. The shooter they desperately need.

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    OKC probably going to get Wes Matthews. The shooter they desperately need.
    Wes Matthews is a pretty awful shooter these days.

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