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    I mentioned Bazemore and Prince for Gasol, Forbes and the Raps pick, in that specific scenario would you do that deal?
    The Spurs are building for the future and likely won't trade either draft picks or young players.

    That's probably why Gasol is the only player being mentioned in trade talks.

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    Lol Heat got rid of Tyler Johnson's trash ass contract. Apparently Drunkford isn't working that hard.

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    I mentioned Bazemore and Prince for Gasol, Forbes and the Raps pick, in that specific scenario would you do that deal?
    It'd be difficult to include the first, tbh. The Spurs would already be absorbing a bad contract in Bazemore and giving them a good contract in Forbes. I guess it'd come down to whether the Spurs are high on Prince. Advanced stats are extremely low on him. The Hawks are the worst defensively when he's on the court and other metrics also show he's terrible defensively.

    He somewhat passes the eye-test but the advanced stats are enough of a red flag that I'd probably want it to be a second round pick and not a first round pick.

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    Why get rid of him now if he's getting only 6 mil next year?

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    Prince is in his 3rd season so he is under contract for another year before RFA.

    I think I would do it, though it creates a log jam next season with Murray, Mills White, DeRozan, Beli, Bazemore and Prince all needing minutes at the 1-3.
    Yeah I counted this season that's why I said 2

    White/Murray
    Bazemore/Belinelli
    DeRozan/Prince

    in an ideal scenario you trade Mills. Prince can occassionally play the 4 I guess when you go really small and Gay is out. Bazemore's contract next season is also an expiring that you can move to teams who need cap space if you want to move him. You should be able to get some value back. Like I said, make that move ASAP

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    Why get rid of him now if he's getting only 6 mil next year?

    Because he can get you a decent player and with poetl spurs don’t need him.

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    Prince is in his 3rd season so he is under contract for another year before RFA.

    I think I would do it, though it creates a log jam next season with Murray, Mills White, DeRozan, Beli, Bazemore and Prince all needing minutes at the 1-3.
    I would be very disappointed in this deal. Moving Forbes and Toronto's pick to create a log jam next season? Prince and Bazemore won't make us legit contenders this season or next. Don't do it. I am not interested in any deal that helps us to become a little better first or second round fodder this season. This season is what it is. We need to take a longer view. We have enough guards, and Prince has been very blah.

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    people here want to say Bazemore is on a bad contract but he really isn't. He's a little overpaid with 18 million, but his contract expires next year. So with the Spurs operating over the cap anyway, this doesn't hinder them at all. We won't have cap space in the offseason anyway

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    Pau, Dante and QPon will all be here. February 8 will be like Christmas morning when you open your gifts and they're like socks, a billfold, a pair of slacks...

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    I'd do Pau + the Toronto pick for Jlin + Prince in a heartbeat tbh.
    Agree. while its hard to give up a first for either player, i think both of these guys would excel under Pop/the spurs system. and while spurs are good at drafting and routinely find players at the end of the draft, in a year we have multiple first round picks i wouldnt mind parting with the later one for a former lotto pick with upside. prince has been meh with ATL but i firmly believe he needs a change of scenery and playing for his city may bring the best out of him tbh. not sure about Lin though, how has he looked after his injury?

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    How in holy did Bazemore get 18 million? Cripes, people complain about Spurs' contracts.

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    people here want to say Bazemore is on a bad contract but he really isn't. He's a little overpaid with 18 million, but his contract expires next year. So with the Spurs operating over the cap anyway, this doesn't hinder them at all. We won't have cap space in the offseason anyway
    It's not cap room, it's the tax. The Spurs plan these things in advance, and need either a good young player meeting a need, or for Gasol's money to come off in order to justify paying Rudy. I think they might pay the tax for one year of OPJ, but Bazemore is not enough of a player to justify it.

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    How in holy did Bazemore get 18 million? Cripes, people complain about Spurs' contracts.
    Bazemore at 18 million is still better than Pau at 16.3

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    How in holy did Bazemore get 18 million? Cripes, people complain about Spurs' contracts.
    everyone got paid in 2016. scrubs like Bazemore, Mozgov, Crabbe, Deng, etc all got 15+ million a year from re ed FOs that thought the cap would e dramatically every year

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    How in holy did Bazemore get 18 million? Cripes, people complain about Spurs' contracts.
    And some here want to add him to our stable.

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    Prince is not on trading block

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    Bazemore at 18 million is still better than Pau at 16.3
    Pau got paid for being a good soldier and doing a favor to the FO earlier. Stop ing about it. Look what Ainge did to Thomas and that's killing him right now with AD.

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    It's not cap room, it's the tax. The Spurs plan these things in advance, and need either a good young player meeting a need, or for Gasol's money to come off in order to justify paying Rudy. I think they might pay the tax for one year of OPJ, but Bazemore is not enough of a player to justify it.
    so you are saying that if we ship out Pau and Forbes (16.8 + 3.1 = 19.9 million) for Bazemore and Prince (18 + 2.5 = 20.5 million) we all of a sudden pay the luxury tax? That's equal salary, Spurs could even add Pondexter to shed a little of it. The luxury tax threshold for next season is at 132 million. Spurs would be at 110 million. Gay should resign for similar money if you ask me, I expect something like 12 million per year on a longer deal. Maximum would be 15, but I can't see them paying him that much. Even that would have them at 125 million. They wouldn't be tax payers

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    Prince is not on trading block
    He's untouchable?

    lol

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    Pau got paid for being a good soldier and doing a favor to the FO earlier. Stop ing about it. Look what Ainge did to Thomas and that's killing him right now with AD.
    that doesn't have anything to do with what I said. I just stated a fact. And obviously NOLA still wants to trade AD to the Celtics, weather he likes it or not

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    Pau got paid for being a good soldier and doing a favor to the FO earlier. Stop ing about it. Look what Ainge did to Thomas and that's killing him right now with AD.
    Pau and Patfo for giving his scrub ass that contract.

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    so you are saying that if we ship out Pau and Forbes (16.8 + 3.1 = 19.9 million) for Bazemore and Prince (18 + 2.5 = 20.5 million) we all of a sudden pay the luxury tax? That's equal salary, Spurs could even add Pondexter to shed a little of it. The luxury tax threshold for next season is at 132 million. Spurs would be at 110 million. Gay should resign for similar money if you ask me, I expect something like 12 million per year on a longer deal. Maximum would be 15, but I can't see them paying him that much. Even that would have them at 125 million. They wouldn't be tax payers
    Rudy's going to get a bump from $10M to ~$18M. He's earned that by taking a couple of one year deals. THAT will put us in the tax if we take on Bazemore's contract.

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    that doesn't have anything to do with what I said. I just stated a fact. And obviously NOLA still wants to trade AD to the Celtics, weather he likes it or not
    You stated an incomplete fact at best. This board is incredibly stupid when it comes to Pau's contract. They don't understand jack . Again, Ainge ed himself by in over IT. He may think Davis is gonna stay there. He thought Kyrie is gonna stay there. But no veteran is going to bother being loyal to that GM for a long ing time.

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    Rudy's going to get a bump from $10M to ~$18M. He's earned that by taking a couple of one year deals. THAT will put us in the tax if we take on Bazemore's contract.
    I hope they won't pay him that much. 18 million is a lot for Rudy, especially considering his age

    You stated an incomplete fact at best. This board is incredibly stupid when it comes to Pau's contract. They don't understand jack . Again, Ainge ed himself by in over IT. He may think Davis is gonna stay there. He thought Kyrie is gonna stay there. But no veteran is going to bother being loyal to that GM for a long ing time.
    Everybody knows Pau's deal was a loyalty contract for him opting out. The question is which free agent they wanted to go after. It was rumored to be CP3 but reports came out later that the Spurs weren't interested in signing him

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    You stated an incomplete fact at best. This board is incredibly stupid when it comes to Pau's contract. They don't understand jack . Again, Ainge ed himself by in over IT. He may think Davis is gonna stay there. He thought Kyrie is gonna stay there. But no veteran is going to bother being loyal to that GM for a long ing time.
    You do understand AD's dad used IT's trade as an excuse to save face for his son,while pushing for a "trade me to Lakers right now" as instructed by Rich Paul and Lebron,right? Please,tell me you understand that,and didn't actually believe the smokescreen and all the bull they're spewing trying to get leverage on a trade.

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