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Damn where has OP been?
People will come in here and saybut Pop has 5 rings, show more respect. But he really has to go at this point. This team needs a new direction so badly.
PATFO have assembled the most low-IQ, one-dimensional, injury-prone and mentally-disengaged roster in franchise history.
Leave it to Pop to allow the irony of saying a 2nd year 29th pick is their second most valuable player escape him. That’s the extent to which his “retirement tour” (frankly speaking) has been bringing in the form of diminishing returns.
It is not only that they executed one of most embarrassing trades involving a legitimate superstar, but the giddiness they have shown all along to throw away an all-NBA defender in Green on a friendly contract at almost every turn while they continue to cling to their motley crew of albatross defensive sieves pretty much sumps up their body of work when it comes to roster construction.
I have seen enough of this front office over the last 3-4 years to vindicate those who were claiming that they owe their careers and reputations to the inimitable greatness of Tim Duncan.
Outside player development, there is nothing special about the operation they have been running. They’ve basked in the perpetual peace and prosperity of the Duncan/Big3 era without much thought to the morning after—the day when you are reduced again to being just another forgettable small market team.
This franchise needs a regime change, it needs to bite the bullet(s) and move on completely from the conservatism and archaic tenets that have guided them in the previous era (“loyalty contracts”; “culture”, “stand pat”, “punting games” etc ..).
Damn what depressing state of affairs, it sucks to be just another dumb team in the league..
Last edited by spursistan; 02-09-2019 at 10:34 PM.
Damn where has OP been?
People will come in here and say
Been a bit busy in the last few months, tbh..Just began tuning in more to find out that we are on the right path to be Hornets/Hawks West for the foreseeable futureDamn where has OP been?
People will come in here and say
It looked that way for most of the season. People were thinking 2nd round ceiling or even championship during the Spurs only good stretch of the seasonBeen a bit busy in the last few months, tbh..Just began tuning in more to find out that we are on the right path to be Hornets/Hawks West for the foreseeable future
So another curb-stomping at the hands of the Warriors awaits.It looked that way for most of the season. People were thinking 2nd round ceiling or even championship during the Spurs only good stretch of the season
From here on out, It is textbook "treadmill of mediocrity" team or what I call "doing a Pacers": never bottom out and never ascend to a contender status, just be a happy 6th-8th seed team that may be lucky to win a round depending on match-ups or injuries..
Last edited by spursistan; 02-09-2019 at 09:07 PM.
We are missing 3 starters. All draft and free agency decisions was based before the Leonard trade.
Moving Aldridge or Derozan (preferably the latter) in the offseason is a must, methink. They both are not the archetype of top 2 player on legit le contenders. I think LMA will age better and is a big time player compared to Derozan whom the league has him entirely figured out..
It time for this front office to get bold and proactive.
get used to being the pelicans and grizzlies. Injured players are the only guys who play for a discount. Injured players fall to the high 20's on draft night. This isn't pafto. This is the league. it's stacked against us. Be a warriors or lakers fan if you want to win. Babies.
Naw fam, a team shouldn't be that dependent on one player. If anything, kawhi's departure exposed how poorly our roster was/is constructed.
That’s not really fair. Other than GS, every team is that dependent. Beyond, that, it’s about how a team is built around the type of star you have. SA would not have built around DeRozan the same way they did with Kawhi so that’s not fair IMO.
But now? They know and the have to pick a lane. They see what they have an can plan accordingly
What also makes me less optimistic about the future is that their supposed young core (white, Murray, Walker) is injury prone by the looks of it, which is why taking on that Clippers offer (2 firsts) would have been a more satisfactory return for the s bag..Just gotta stockpile picks and hope to hit on "a Giannis " or something close to that caliber. Draft is the only path for small market teams to field a contender in this pathetic culture of 'super-teams in LA/NY' of Today's NBA...
The front office does draft pretty well.
But their time is over, sadly.
When they did the Mills/Gasol deals I knew they had lost it completely. There was no way to defend those massive deals when they had just proven they couldn't be on the court against the Warriors.
I did have a little hope that with the extra picks and Pau as a partial next season, even combined with the cheap contract of Forbes that they would try to adjust and move on to players who could have a chance to be on the court against a contender in the playoffs.
But it was just hope.
Spurs still don't get it, and I'm looking forward to seeing what the next regime does as long as it isn't headed up by some Orlando intern whose claim to fame is giving Kawhi to Toronto to give it up to his bro.
These games aren't even watchable without White. I've just been waiting to watch and fast forwarding.
No denying that having two best perimeter defenders injured is exposing this team. With that said, even at full strength I don’t see how they could have been lacing them up the last month of this years playoffs without some help.
The problem is the team has become complacent, the front office and coaching aren't willing to do what is needed to be done to compete. They put more value on loyalty and culture, which stagnates the team from growing past just a good/above average team (unless someone they draft develops into an elite player like Kawhi did). Look at what Sean Marks was able to do with a trash Brooklyn Nets team that had a very bleak outlook. Fast forward 3 years and now the Nets are a contender with attractive team assets. Marks was willing to take risks and they have drafted well and it is paying off. The Warriors could have stuck with Mark Jackson and been satisfied with a good team but they took a risk and became the superteam of the current generation. Pop and RC need to realize that certain guys won't get it done if they want to actually compete and stop with this loyalty/culture BS.
It’s hard to say how much it hurt, but not having DJ and White together definitely hurts bad. However, that is a ton of pressure on those two young guys which doesn’t seem optimal.
Even though that is a legit excuse, there are plenty of issues to address.
PATFO have assembled the most low-IQ, one-dimensional, injury-prone and mentally-disengaged roster in franchise story.
Leave it to Pop to allow the irony of saying a 2nd year 29th pick is their second most valuable player escape him. That’s the extent to which his “retirement tour” (frankly speaking) has been bringing in the form of diminishing returns.
It is not only that they executed one of most embarrassing trades involving a legitimate superstar, but the giddiness they have shown all along to throw away an all-NBA defender in Green on a friendly contract at almost every turn while they continue to cling to their motley crew of albatross defensive sieves pretty much sumps up their body of work when it comes to roster construction.
I have seen enough of this front office over the last 3-4 years to vindicate those who were claiming that they owe their careers and reputations to the inimitable greatness of Tim Duncan.
Outside player development, there is nothing special about the operation they have been running. They’ve basked in the perpetual peace and prosperity of the Duncan/Big3 era without much thought to the morning after—the day when you are reduced again to being just another forgettable small market team.
This franchise needs a regime change, it needs to bite the bullet(s) and move on completely from the conservatism and archaic tenets that have guided them in the previous era (“loyalty contracts”; “culture”, “stand pat”, “punting games” etc ..).
Damn what depressing state of affairs, it sucks to be just another dumb team in the league
Well said and to the point. The time has come for new blood. Pop jhas always been an angry man but, this year he has the look in his eyes of a late night serial killer. The players on this team don't respond well to his anger. Many have brought up the point that he came in at halftime and basically cussed the team and players (individually) out. He really should retire and go enjoy his California winery. He's 70 years old and with 20 years of success he should step back and start enjoying life. The death of his wife has obviously been hard on him which is natural. But, the bottom line for me is I hope he retires and doesn't get fired because it is going to get worse before it gets better. There just isn't a whole lot of talent on this team. At least not NBA Championship quality talent. This is going to be a longgggggggggggggg season.
But you know what? Regardless of this ty Spurs version i still very much love the team! It is very unfortunate how it is now though. We really were lucky all those years. Silver lighting is that we have a good young core and a pretty good PG that should be back next year. That and I'm very excited/curious to see who will replace Pop. Being the Spurs, it will be a great replacement to Pop whom ever it winds up being. .......... Or things will begin to suck forever and SA will lose the team to Seattle or Austins punk ass!
We got DeRozan, everyone will be very happy.
According to many, this team is in a great spot to contend lol
DPG was on of those folks in the offseason
"This was a playoff team without Nephew, just imagine how good they'll be inserting another Allstar in DeRozan. 3rd seed is likely imo"
Man....
DPG was on of those folks in the offseason
"This was a playoff team without Nephew, just imagine how good they'll be inserting another Allstar in DeRozan. 3rd seed is likely imo"
Man....
Glad OP is back. The forum was starting to get overflooded by vanilla posters and noobs that thought PATFO would get their thumbs out of their hairy asses at the deadline.
Truth is, this is what PATFO wanted for Pop's creampie (I mean farewell.. oops) tour. Be good enough to be a 7-8th seed, not bad enough to tank for the future. Their mantra of getting over one's self applies to everyone but them. Their selfishness has set this team back a decade. They took Kawhi for granted after that Patty/Pau offseason. They thought he was like Tim, who never cared playing alongside scrubs like , Rasho, Mason, etc. He was never like that. He just wants to be great. Being here and carrying losers and a selfish coach to 60 win seasons wasn't good enough.
This franchise has always been satisfied with mediocrity, just look at the TD era, took them over a decade to find a legitimate big man to pair next to Duncan. Mills is another example, this dude was a ing 4th stringer on the Blazers, now he's getting paid $50 million.
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