DeMar Derozan says okay with star players demanding trades

[Barfunk]

Does the league want parity or super-teams?

Easily big market super teams.

[John B]

Demar was loyal and wanted to stay with the raptors and look what happened. Both players and teams have to look out for themselves. Demar learned the hard way and the whole ordeal has probably changed him.

I think if the organization is performing over .500, there should be more restrictions on trade requests. That should differentiate leaving a bad team vs prima donna’s wanting to team-up with their boyfriends

[Joseph Kony]

If they don't want to play for the team they signed with then they need to sign 1+1 deals like KD. I have no sympathy for these guys trying to break a guaranteed contract they signed with their team. If you don't wanna play there, don't sign long term deals. These guys want the security of a long term contract but don't want to give their team the same security. Its BS imo. And these dudes are no like you or I working normal jobs, so that comparison is just stupid

[apalisoc_9]

If they don't want to play for the team they signed with then they need to sign 1+1 deals like KD. I have no sympathy for these guys trying to break a guaranteed contract they signed with their team. If you don't wanna play there, don't sign long term deals. These guys want the security of a long term contract but don't want to give their team the same security. Its BS imo. And these dudes are no like you or I working normal jobs, so that comparison is just stupid

Yeah but teams trade players in guaranteed contracts all the time and in some occasions dont even tell the players until its done.

Teams dont have to relocate but players have to deal with relocating their families etc.

[spurraider21]

Yeah but teams trade players in guaranteed contracts all the time and in some occasions dont even tell the players until its done.

Teams dont have to relocate but players have to deal with relocating their families etc.

Players still receive what they bargained for. The guaranteed salary. Sometimes with trade kickers

[timvp]

Non story, tbh. If DeRozan said star players shouldn't be able to demand trades, that'd be a story. What he said was common sense.

[tenbeersbold]

You wanna know what fans think...look at the tumbling viewing numbers...

https://thebiglead.com/2019/01/18/nb...s-decline-nfl/

[MaNu4Tres]

Non story, tbh. If DeRozan said star players shouldn't be able to demand trades, that'd be a story. What he said was common sense.

Non story indeed.

However, I still think SA shld shop him this summer.

[Millennial_Messiah]

i hope he demands a trade

then watch spurms fo trade him for a bag of condoms with wholes in it

Used condoms from Richard Jefferson & Dwight Howard

[Strategic]

Car salesmen aren't risking injury by doing their job.

Pretty sure that car salesmen occasionally get killed during test drives.

[Spurs fever]

Off topic, but does anyone know if this YouTuber'Clan the Spurs fan' knows anything? I keep seeing him link the Spurs to several players and i see none of what he's saying from any reporters except the obvious names that are reported in the media. For instance he says the Spurs were looking at Jrue Holiday abd Terry Rozzier and we're looking to trade Bertans. I seen none of that.

[Genovaswitness]

when did our team become full of sacks of . he’s paid to play not open his re ed mouth

[Bynumite]

Plantation overseer Poop about to ship his ass to Orlando.

[YGWHI]

Teams and fans ask players to be loyal when franchises aren't...NBA hypocrisy.

[monty4329]

If only he was ok with star players actually playing defense...

What does this has to do with him? he should stick to talking about players like him. Anyway, STAR players do play defense when asked for.

[duncan2k5]

Exactly. And handle it privately. Leaving isn't the problem. But let your team get fair value out of their investment. Public demands, announcing that you'll only consider a couple of teams, faking an injury? That's not a business negotiation, it's a shakedown. At the very least, the league should yank the player's Bird rights

Nobody wants a person to be forced to be somewhere they don't want to be. That's stupid talk. Just make a way for the team holding the contract to get fair market value.

All trade demands are public... Anthony Davis pretty much did exactly what Kawhi did, and yall act like it was different

[Kobe'sAchilles]

What does this has to do with him? he should stick to talking about players like him. Anyway, STAR players do play defense when asked for.

Bc he should be more concerned with his horrible defense rather than worrying about other star players. And very few actually play defense. Lebron, harden, Westbrook, and curry all play zero defense.

[monty4329]

Bc he should be more concerned with his horrible defense rather than worrying about other star players. And very few actually play defense. Lebron, harden, Westbrook, and curry all play zero defense.

DDR is not a star player.

Yes, some "star' player don't play good defense. Most of the stars play defense though, otherwise they wouldn't be true star players. But I get your point, NBA is going towards a defense-less game (and I don't like it a bit)

LeBron plays excellent playoffos defense
Kawhi plays defense (even being an a.hole etc etc)
Davis plays defense
Jannis plays defense
Paul George obviously
Irving is a very good defender

[snickles]

Car salesmen aren't risking injury by doing their job.

they also don't have a team doctor available 24/7 free of charge. seriously, why do people continue to act like comparing a pro athlete's "job" to a 9-to-5-er makes ANY sense.

[koriwhat]

"A normal person at a job, if they don't want to work at that job any more, they can easily put in their 30-day notice and go elsewhere if it's best for them," he said. "I don't see why we shouldn't be able to have that same right."

If you want to leave your basketball job to go work for WalMart, Demarr, have at it. Nobody is stopping you.

When a normal person breaks a contract, they get their asses kicked financially. When these guys under contract demand trades, they should be allowed to go. But they should have to repay the team they are leaving half of their current contract. Their team should get a credit for that same amount added to their cap space, and the team they go to should get a reduction to their cap space for the same amount. Then everyone would understand the true cost, and pay their fair share.

So Kawhi would have had to pay the Spurs $9.4M, for breaking his contract.
The Raptors would have lost an additional $9.4M of cap space, to reflect the real value of what they received vs. what they sent out.
The Spurs would have received Kawhi's $9.4M plus an additional $9.4M of cap space, to reflect what they really lost and help them bring in additional talent to compensate.

Lots of "normal people" continue to work jobs that they don't love, because they don't want to take a pay cut. Lots of "normal people" finish out contracts that they wish they hadn't made, because they don't want to get their asses kicked financially for breaking it. I think treating these guys more like "normal people" is a great idea.

he's so clueless about a 2 week or 30 day notice vs a contract for hire. there's nda's that keep people from working in the field they are in after leaving a job, maybe they should adopt nda's in the nba haha!

[Othyus Lalanne]

Homeboy doesn’t appear to understand the fact that he has a contract with the club.

Lol 30 days notice.

If a player is hurt, some idiot gives you the king's ransom for it to seel tickets or really believes in him. You are happy with him asking for a trade.

[r2d2]

Just my perspective from an outsider (Yes I am Raptor fan).


I see a lot of, he should shut his mouth and play, Compton education, we should pay them this and not that etc. The reality is that this league is an incredibly huge revenue maker as an entertainment business. It is driven by star players, and to make this league you have to be 1 in a million, possibly 1 in 10 million, 2nd rate players still can play in europe and the world but... make a lot less. If you are a 3rd runner up, you get jack , free beers at you local dive bar and story time that gets you kicked out at the end of the night about that time you shot the game winning shot for your highschool and now you are taking the fatty home at the end of the night, not because you want to but because she is your ride.

My point is this is the spotlight, this is the SHOW the money, you have as much say as there is demand for your services. Most NBA players do not have a choice where they play, , most of them do not even have guaranteed minutes, they are hoping and praying to continue the dream. One more contract, one more chance. We all know how quick you can go from a hero to a zero.

So the only guys that can actually demand where they play in this league, are the cream of the crop, the EARNERS. The guys that put people in their seats. These are the guys that teams are willing to put daggers in the backs of their regulars for a chance of signing.


Derozan is a Class act! I have watched sports all my life, love it, seen all kinds of personalities and egos. This guy is the real deal, he is level headed, smart, super hard worker, great family man, a tell it the way it is sort of chap. He is not trying to piss in anyones corn flakes, he just gave a perfectly common sense opinion, that if a dude has the option of deciding where he should play, he should
certainly be allowed to exercise it.


Then I see these Compton slurs, do as you are told.... and I start to scratch my head, and think.... maybe that is why Kahwai moved beyond the team. Maybe his thuggish looks and soft spoken style really rubbed some people the wrong way, maybe they are mad that this guy thought he had a choice.


Derozan deserves to be criticized for his play of late. Trust me, I bet he is the biggest critic of himself in that department. That said why is he not viewed as a fellow citizen, who should have the right to express his opinion? What is he a commodity? You guys own him or something. With politics the way they are in your country I sometimes wonder if what went down in your organization was disrespect on a different sort of level.


Also, I maybe I am the few, would gladly reverse the DEAL. I would take back Derozan, Potel (who I love, this kid has tools) and our pick. Kahwai , hasn't exactly given us an indication that he will stay. We also expected a lot more from him than he has shown. Many of us are getting the feeling that he is just going through the motions to play to terms of his current contract before he bolts. BTW I love Green, wow, thank you for that, he has shown commitment and he has made it clear he will be more than happy to stay if we want him.... but to me that is not enough, unless we win the ring this year, to justify the Derozan/Potel/1st rounder. Our GM gambled and its looking like we need to win it ALL this year just to have a case for Khawai staying. He would look like a tool leaving an organization that put a supporting cast around him to get a ring.


Just really stunned on how you guys talk down to Derozan. The basketball criticism I get. The fellow citizen who should keep his mouth shut if he knows what is right for him I don't get..... is it possible, that DD is seeing why Khawai wanted to bolt? It would be quite the shock, coming from a progressive market like Toronto, where you are royalty and given the benefit of the doubt. Where your word is respected and folks look up to you, to a market where you are where you were born. From Compton, and if you know whats best you best keep your mouth shut.


(Sorry about the heavy post.... maybe I am out to lunch, but just telling you the impression I get, and I honestly am shocked at how little humanity is seen in some of your best players.)

EDIT: Potel is going to be a good one... quality big man, so rare with this skill set. So young and so good so early, wait 5 years and this guy will be in BEAST mode.

[Collins21]

Thank you. As a Long time Spurs fan the is embarrassing how people are treating Manu. However some of the fans are the same fans who trashed Parker for years so I shouldn't suprise me. These same dudes will call DD a scrub but then admire some Euro trash player the is weird.

[ZeusWillJudge]

All trade demands are public... Anthony Davis pretty much did exactly what Kawhi did, and yall act like it was different

If they're not public, how would you know if they happen or not? Think... then type.

Adam Silver made some public comments in the last 24 hours about these public trade demands, and you'll find a lot of what I've been saying in them. A few pathetic mortals keep arguing with me, but the guy who runs the league knows. Here are a few of his comments:

“No

I don’t like trade demands and I wish they’d be handled behind closed doors."

“Whether it be a team or a player, not meeting a contractual agreement is something you don’t want to see as a league.” (Get it? The players have actual contracts that say they will stay for a certain number of years, in exchange for a pile of money. When they refuse to do that, they are breaking a contract. Period.)

Silver says the law of unintended consequences came into play with these trade demands. "The reason they enacted the ability to extend a contract a year before it expired was to protect the teams

".

“There’s nothing I’ll be able to do to stop that completely … but

is there more we can do to create better chances for all 30 teams to compete?”

(Translation: he plans to do something to slow this down, at least. Because if small market teams have no chance of getting/keeping star players, they fold and the league is in trouble.)


I expect the sweet perfume of burnt sacrifices and apologies from some of you.

[slick'81]

Non story indeed.

However, I still think SA shld shop him this summer.

pop and company wont give up after just one season.entering his third and final year that contract should be plenty tradable