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Poor attempt at a cop out, tbh.
I sometimes fall for that trap just because it is easier to say that when you are trying to make a point (for example: when I say he's more of a SF than a PF, what I mean is that he defends better on the perimeter than in the low block. But, actually, making a distiction between SF and PF is re ed because there are nominal SF's, like a Kawhi, that would post up, whereas there are nominal PF's, like a Tucker, that won't ever do it. So in that case Bertans would be better off defending the "PF" position than the "SF" one).
There aren't many differences in the positions any more. The differences are solely on the players, your own players and the other teams' players.
For example, last night, who played SF and who played PF between Bertans and Gay?
Last edited by DAF86; 01-30-2019 at 04:52 PM.
Poor attempt at a cop out, tbh.
Exactly right... the bench is what blows out teams.
No reason for one, tbh. I wasn't caught lying about a cold hard fact.Poor attempt at a cop out, tbh.
As usual, you're so concerned with "winning" a debate that the point (poor job explaining what you meant and it naturally being interpreted differently than how you meant it) flew over your head.No reason for one, tbh. I wasn't caught lying about a cold hard fact.
Butthurt about "losing" a debate.
I mentioned this can be slightly fixed with early/late subs. For example remove Bertans after 4-5 mins, then bring him back in for Gay before the end of the quarter. But it gives them more minutes together, and might help us get off to better starts in games. With our team setup, we should be playing Bertans and Gay 30mpg a night. And as everyone knows, it is our bench that does the real damage and not our starters most of the time - so I feel this may help make our starters more dominant.
I'm shocked that a majority-Euro lineup would be so dominant. Shocked, I tell you!
Record when Bertans starts
2018: 3-7
2019: 3-5
Hate to be that guy that's always right, but I'm always right. Can't help it. He's a cute little player to have that can give you a good 15 minutes of offense. You play him any more than that and you ain't getting . He's not a starter. Sorry.
Bertans has been SOFT. Embarrassed by Layman and Harkless.
This is flawed use of statistics. Given his role in the team, the fact that Bertans starts usually means that the team is shorthanded for that game due to injuries or resting players, which ceteris paribus means lower win probability. Furthermore, with such small samples you have to at least look at the strength of opposition and home/away to draw any meaningful conclusions.
If your post was meant to be read in sarcastic light and I was too daft to get it, then never mind, of course
He usualy have the best +/- of all starters when he starts. So you.
I disagree with TGY's opinion on Bertans, but +/- is as useless as the advanced stats played with no context here to prove some points (player x is not good for spurs because his bpm, per, etc etc is negative)
Bertans is a positive because he can not stay free (the opposing teams always have a player on him because he is one of the best shooters in the world), the problem is when Aldridge and Demar are freezing the offense with those fakes in the post that only work 1 every 10 times, put him on any team in the league playing a ball movement system (Nets, Blazers, Celtics, Pacers, ..) or with a guy like Harden as a playmaker, and he would be scary
Well i agree that he is not a starter, but his argument was just re ed. Starting unit with DDR and LA has no ball movement, so there is no point playing Bert. Only thing with him is, that he gives more room for others to play. He is more usefull with second unit.
Bertans struggles with the SL if White isn’t out there to facilitate the offense. If DDR is gonna jack up 28 shots we would be better having Davis on the bench unit where the ball movement is better tbh
Bertans can't do anything in offense unless he gets the ball at the right time and spot! That's obvious. Spurs big 3 (LMA, DDR, GAY) play hero ball style.
1 rebound in 32 minutes
3-6 when he starts this season
When I hit, I don't miss folks. Tried to tell ya. Guy blows chunks
send this soft flaming got back to eurostan, if his head will even fit through an airplane door
Yeah let's blame Bertans that Pop can't create an efficient roster. Put Bertans in Toronto or Golden State and he would be used much better.
This got is absolutely useless. Starting him might the single worst idea in ST history.
Hes a ginger Austin Daye. End of story.
He's not a starter, he should be a 4th big, but anybody complaining about a man shooting 47%!!! from 3 should re-evaluate their understanding of basketball
This team does a poor job of consistently getting him looks..I don't know if it's the players or Pop, but he needs to be a real part of the offense, he certainly isn't out there to rebound or anchor a defense..
he's a very good complementary player. he can't be expected to rescue a lineup, just enhance one.
White
DeRozan
Bertans
Gay
Aldridge
That's our best 5 men unit. I don't care if they all start, but they should at least be playing 20 minutes together and finishing games off.
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