Why I think Climate Change Denial is little more than pseudoscience. - Part 1

[spurraider21]

absurdity from shapiro per par

[RandomGuy]

You think the Earth is flat?

I do not. I was wondering if you did. Do tell.

[RandomGuy]

Part and parcel of how the right lies.

Strawman arguments, easily made, and just as easily dismissed.

We can take unilateral action to avoid the worst of the damage.

Just because other people beat their kids, doesn't mean we have to.

[Chris]

Part and parcel of how the right lies.

Strawman arguments, easily made, and just as easily dismissed.

We can take unilateral action to avoid the worst of the damage.

Just because other people beat their kids, doesn't mean we have to.

Paris Climate Accord = beating your kids; I agree. What kind of unilateral action were you hoping for specifically?

[RandomGuy]

Paris Climate Accord = beating your kids; I agree. What kind of unilateral action were you hoping for specifically?

yuk yuk yuk.

A carbon tax would be fine for starters.

[RandomGuy]

https://thelogicofscience.com/2015/0...climate-change

[RandomGuy]

"So because they're doing it, we should do it too." or "Because they're not doing anything about it, we shouldn't do anything about it, either."

Here's a possible idea when (not if) starts hitting the fan. Massive tariffs or outright bans on goods produced in countries that haven't got their carbon emissions below a certain threshold. China is also going to be forced to get their in order because projections at their current rate have big parts of the country being virtually uninhabitable because of pollution.

I know Chris won't read it, but you might. Very detailed analysis, and one of the better science blogs I follow.

https://thelogicofscience.com/2015/0...climate-change

[RandomGuy]

yup. chris never commits to any theories. he'll hint the out of them.

he'll talk about how anyone leaving the earth would be fried by the van allen belt, and talk about snowglobe earth theory, but he'll never commit to anything.

very rarely do we find people so unwilling to state their convictions

I call that having the cowardice of one's convictions.

Pretty much. For some people, the complete inability to admit any weakness or fault in their beliefs stands out to me.

It may be my own confirmation bias, but I really wonder how much religious thinking has to do with it. When you suppress doubt and question questioning itself so that you can protect "faith", I really do think this is akin to having a weakened immune system. These people are unable to fend off ty ideas.

[RandomGuy]

2012 news

https://thelogicofscience.com/2019/0...arming-is-real

Same thing for you. Pearls before swine, but hey, I feel duty bound to at least provide you with the evidence available. I know you well enough to know you will ignore it, out of lazyness.

[boutons_deux]

Four Things That Could Kill Us Before the Cloud Apocalypse Does

A study released in Nature Geoscience chronicles how strato ulus clouds, those low hanging clouds that lend themselves well to daydreaming, could one day disappear if we keep emitting carbon.

Their disappearance could, in turn lead to skyrocketing temperatures, raising the heat more than 8 degree Celsius (14 degrees Fahrenheit) around the globe.

Look, that is extremely super bad. If the clouds disappeared, the planet would likely be a scorched, parched scape

one researchers are furiously looking at because clouds play a crucial role in the climate system but are among the least understood components.

The study is based on a scenario where carbon dioxide rises to 1,200 parts per million, a near tripling of where it’s at today.

Technically, it’s possible.

But the reality is there’s a lot more stuff climate change could do to could spell the end of civilization before we reach that point.

Runaway ice melt and sea level rise

Oxygen-less oceans

Heat waves

Geoengineering

https://earther.gizmodo.com/four-thi...ign=2019-02-26

[Chris]

I know Chris won't read it

I didn't

[RandomGuy]

I didn't [bother reading the thing i disagree with that had all the science in it]

Translation:



It's ok actually. No one here, even your friends, thinks you care about the truth. At least you don't have to pretend, I guess.

[DMC]

"So because they're doing it, we should do it too." or "Because they're not doing anything about it, we shouldn't do anything about it, either."

Here's a possible idea when (not if) starts hitting the fan. Massive tariffs or outright bans on goods produced in countries that haven't got their carbon emissions below a certain threshold. China is also going to be forced to get their in order because projections at their current rate have big parts of the country being virtually uninhabitable because of pollution.

If your goal is to feel better about yourself, it doesn't matter what other countries do. If your goal is to save the world, then it does matter.

[DMC]

Seriously how god damned ing stupid does one have to be to disagree with scientific fact?

Ducks, re , got Joey? Tell us all how ing stupid are you? Darrin, you input is also called for too

Scientific fact: You are a fat ing slob

[RandomGuy]

If your goal is to feel better about yourself, it doesn't matter what other countries do. If your goal is to save the world, then it does matter.

That is why you take action, and work to have others do the same. Not difficult.

[Chris]

Cool : )

[spurraider21]

Cool : )

Try reading the article and not just the headline. I know it’s difficult for somebody who digests all information in 140 characters or less

[boutons_deux]

civilization is ed and un able

Coal plants emitted more than ever in 2018, putting Earth in ‘deep trouble’

Global energy experts released grim findings Monday, saying that

not only are planet-warming carbon-dioxide emissions still increasing,

but also the world's growing thirst for energy has led to higher emissions from coal-fired power plants than ever before.

Energy demand around the world grew by 2.3% over the last year, marking the most rapid increase in a decade,

a fleet of relatively new coal plants in Asia, with decades to go on their lifetimes, led the way toward a record for emissions from coal-fired power plants — exceeding 10 billion tons of carbon dioxide "for the first time,"

greenhouse-gas emissions from the use of energy — by far their largest source —

surged in 2018, reaching a record high of 33.1 billion tons.

Emissions showed 1.7% growth, well above the average since 2010. The growth in global emissions in 2018 alone was "equivalent to the total emissions from international aviation,"

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-coal-power-plants-emissions-20190325-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter

[CosmicCowboy]

So if we accept that climate change is inevitable, where will the climate improve? Will Alaska be like California is now?

[boutons_deux]

So if we accept that climate change is inevitable, where will the climate improve? Will Alaska be like California is now?

goddamn, you're ing stupid

[spurraider21]

So if we accept that climate change is inevitable, where will the climate improve? Will Alaska be like California is now?

yeah totally like omg problem solved. lets just have mass migrations in the billions. that will solve everything. and all the infrastructure needed to go along with it!

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol triggered.

[spurraider21]

[DarrinS]

[boutons_deux]

Everest is melting, exposing bodies of dead climbers, going back decades.